This is the best video I've seen that shows off Burke's quicks.
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This is the best video I've seen that shows off Burke's quicks.
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I'm all for taking Saric and stashing him for a year.
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What would be your short term answer at SF then? 2 year contract for someone?Originally Posted by AD23forMVP
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Yeah, not that quick. Relies on craftiness and his step back A LOT. You can just see him not exploding past a guy on his first step and it taking change of direction to get a step on guys. Him having such a good J really really aids him though with his average quickness. Keeps guys off balance.
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who knows what direction we might go in, but I just struggle with seeing this at #6....
"we might make dollars, but we don't necessarily make sense"
"always be sincere....whether you mean it or not"
Re-sign Aminu and continue with his development, as well as Miller's. That would be my plan, anyway.
I've watched videos of Paul at Wake Forest and he does his damage the same way.
This is one of those things that people hear and hold on to to the tenth power before the draft, but it simply is not true. I am a big WF fan and I watched Paul in college, he never blew by anyone, in fact he wasn't even as shifty as Burke and he used to put his back to defenders A LOT. Burke is extremely crafty and to say he isn't quick is, to me, just plain false. I've even seen him compared to GV???? This has to stop at some point.
He STILL DOES.
Here watch yourself.
Those aren't just highlights. I watch all WF games, Paul did not blow by anyone at WF. Really PG's in college seldom get to show what they are actually capable of in college bc of the style of play. You can just watch Burke and see he has a lot of game and quicks as well. I'd take a crafty person who doesn't NEED to be quick over a super-athletic-freak anyday, BUT what people need to understand is there is a difference between not NEEDING to be quick and NOT being quick. Burke is anything when he needs to be, I mean watch him play, it's as simple as that.
You're exactly correct though. To this point, the dude plays exactly like Paul. I mean people say these things in hindsight now, but Paul wansn't Paul back then either...
What did i say that wasn't true. Please explain? Did i say he couldn't play? Nope. I said he didn't explode past people on the first step, which you agree'd with. Said it took a change of direction to get by players. which you agree'd with and compared to Paul. I said he relied on his craftiness, which you agree'd with. In fact the only thing that i can see you disagree'd with is that he isn't quick. When all i said is he's of average quickness; he's not that quick ie he is nothing to marvel at in that department.
I think you and SaintsinNO are misunderstanding my ost. I mthink the guy has a ton of game. I'm just saying he's not that quick. I'd be ok with Burke. We need to pump the brakes a bit on paul comparisons though.
I just watched the cp3 vid and he looks a lot quicker IMO and is about 100x's better at stealing the ball. Burke seems to be the better shooter off the dribble in regards to college.
Last edited by BallSoHard; 06-06-2013 at 09:49 AM.
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International prospects say all of the time they may pull out of the draft or stay overseas. It is often a play to get a lottery promise. We'll see.
Burke's combine numbers were pretty much the same as Vasquez. Do we really want another point guard that can't guard opposing guards?
No, I didn't or don't agree. I agree he plays crafty, but your post indicates he has to rely on that because he is 'not that quick.' To me that's false. I think we can all agree CP is very quick, but look at the tape he put up...he played the exact same way and didn't blow by anyone and no one's saying he's CP, but at this particular point he is at least as good, if not better, than Paul was. I know no one will back that because of what Paul has now become, but it's a fact, the dude plays just like Paul did at this time. Which my point is, people have to understand that there is a difference between not being quick and having to rely on being crafty and being crafty. Burke and Paul are the latter and both have an abundance of quicks.
BallSoHard, see what I mean...absurd. If you are going to let combine numbers tell you the story you'll be the NBA's Raiders. Have you watched Burke play? This is absurd.
I didn't use them Personally. I've watched a lot of Burke an am impressed, but I think you've got to admit he's got some flaws. A lot of the Burke lovers refuse to admit it. He's not a perfect prospect. And the people on the other side of the argument need to realize that he does make up for a lot of his flaws with other tools he possesses. Like I said in my original post, his stellar shot off the dribble, change of direction and ball handling makes up for his average quickness.
I'm thinking they'll bring back AFA and Darius. Still need a "starter" at the 3 but I can see them bringing those 2 back.
I just don't understand the Burke and Iverson comparisons that people are saying. And Sacric at 6 scares the hell out of me. I think Ryno does the same thing except the passing. Wasted pick.
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GV didnt take part in the athletic drills of the combine.
Saying two guys are comparable in skill and play style isn't saying one is as good as the other. However a lot of people are trying to make the case that this skill level and style won't pan out in the league when the best player at the position plays it the same way.
Like I've said before the spacing in college is different because there's no 3 sec rule and most college bigs can't shoot. So beating your man rarely leads to open lane to the basket. I don't think anybody is calling Burke a clone of Paul(although IMO he's the closest I've seen since) or that he has Wall, Rose, Westbrook, Lawson type quickness, but with his combo of his physical ability(which seem to be vastly underrated), skill, and IQ he has the potential to be special.
Absolutely flawed. No argument there. My simple point is a lot of people get carried away. Paul wasn't 'Paul' at this point either...I mean Marvin Williams and Bogut went before him and really almost Felton. Just saying at this point I believe he is as good a prospect as Paul was and I feel because he isn't 'Paul' right now some lose sight of that, but I see what you are saying.
The other thing that drives me nuts is when people really say he can't be much better that GV. To me that's insane. GV is a lot of empty numbers, Burke is a winner ala CP. I really like the kid, but all these guys are flawed.
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It is understandable that anyone would want their first round pick to join the team immediately, but you also have to remember it isn't about next season, its about the future and the whispers are that Saric is a top 5 talent. Just in recent history we have seen early picks stay overseas and then have successful rookie seasons.
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