Burke "I"m hearing between #2 and #6"

[bradael]

Burke isn't bigger than CP3. They both are 5'11.75" without shoes. Burke wearing thicker shoes to the combine doesn't make him bigger than Chris Paul. He does, however, have a larger wingspan at 6'5.5" to CP3's 6'4.25", which is probably more important than height though.

I'd rather not take Burke though. PGs are a dime a dozen right now. And I don't think Burke will be nearly as special as some are hyping him to be on this board. I think his ceiling is Mike Conley, not Chris Paul... and even then, he's not close to the athlete that Conley is. I'm really not sure he's a good enough athlete to be a good defender in this league, let alone a good enough offensive player to warrant taking #6 overall. I'd still rather take Zeller there assuming Porter, McLemore, and Oladipo are gone.

[flyPelican]

Burke isn't bigger than CP3. They both are 5'11.75" without shoes. Burke wearing thicker shoes to the combine doesn't make him bigger than Chris Paul. He does, however, have a larger wingspan at 6'5.5" to CP3's 6'4.25", which is probably more important than height though.

I'd rather not take Burke though. PGs are a dime a dozen right now. And I don't think Burke will be nearly as special as some are hyping him to be on this board. I think his ceiling is Mike Conley, not Chris Paul... and even then, he's not close to the athlete that Conley is. I'm really not sure he's a good enough athlete to be a good defender in this league, let alone a good enough offensive player to warrant taking #6 overall. I'd still rather take Zeller there assuming Porter, McLemore, and Oladipo are gone.

agreed take the skilled big man

[rebelman]

I really don't want the Pelicans to take Burke if he's there at 6

[rebelman]

I'd rather have Shabazz or Alex Len

[MonsterMash]

Steve Kyler:

People don't like Burke because he "plays hard on a notable team." People like him because he shot well from the field, from 3, and had a fantastic assist to turnover ratio. People like him because he was the driving force behind that successful team.

Dismissing him like he's Aaron Craft or something is just LOL on his part.

[Eman5805]

Burke isn't bigger than CP3. They both are 5'11.75" without shoes. Burke wearing thicker shoes to the combine doesn't make him bigger than Chris Paul. He does, however, have a larger wingspan at 6'5.5" to CP3's 6'4.25", which is probably more important than height though.

In response to this, I did a modicum of research. Found this out:

Trey Burke. 187lbs.

Chris Paul. 178lbs.

Hell, one place I've seen listed Burke at 190lbs. Not only is Burke bigger than Paul, he's a good deal bigger. Hell, that actually just gave me even more confidence in Burke's transition to the pros. Remember how in his rookie year one of his weaknesses was how small he was and he had to bulk up?

I had no idea Burke was that built.

I'd rather not take Burke though. PGs are a dime a dozen right now. And I don't think Burke will be nearly as special as some are hyping him to be on this board. I think his ceiling is Mike Conley, not Chris Paul... and even then, he's not close to the athlete that Conley is. I'm really not sure he's a good enough athlete to be a good defender in this league, let alone a good enough offensive player to warrant taking #6 overall. I'd still rather take Zeller there assuming Porter, McLemore, and Oladipo are gone.

Also, I can't really buy a word you are talking about when it comes to him not being a good enough offensive player. I mean, what are you basing that on? It certainly isn't his actual ability to shoot. Dude shots over 40% almost everywhere on the field, can score off the dribble as well as he scores off catch and shoots, can hit from anywhere. At any time.

[PELICANSFAN]

Kyler simply doesn't like him and that's fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I was stunned when his "mock draft" had Burke falling to 13. Whether he likes him or not, that is just crazy.

[BallSoHard]

Yes being predicted in the top 10 is certainly comparable to being dismissed as Aaron Craft.

I love to watch Burke but I feel like he's also a product of the hype machine a bit as well: I think 7-15 is about where he "should" go. I'm in no way saying this is his fault.

[Pantazis76]

I don't understand the hate, have you guys seen his NBA draft video?

[BallSoHard]

I don't understand the hate, have you guys seen his NBA draft video?

The one where they show all highlights ?

Also who's hating ? Having a different opinion makes someone a hater ..

[MonsterMash]

Yes being predicted in the top 10 is certainly comparable to being dismissed as Aaron Craft.

I love to watch Burke but I feel like he's also a product of the hype machine a bit as well: I think 7-15 is about where he "should" go. I'm in no way saying this is his fault.

I was referring to the analyst's assertion that people like him because "He plays hard on a good team". Not people in the thread that aren't high on him.

[wuggie]

If Orlando or someone else takes him before us....it's gonna be a friggin' MELTDOWN. Derp.

[da ThRONe]

While I don't think it's fair to say he's going to be better than or even as good as Chris Paul the comparison based of off physical size and athletic testing are close. As much as people will go crazy he's a better player leaving college than Chris Paul. The numbers don't lie. Again being a better college player doesn't mean he'll be a better pro. As much of a Burke fan that I am I wouldn't bet that he gets on CP3's level however I've seen nothing about his game that says he can't.

[BallSoHard]

I was referring to the analyst's assertion that people like him because "He plays hard on a good team". Not people in the thread that aren't high on him.

Got ya sir. I'd be happy with they guy for sure. Just don't think he's Chris Paul.

[AUSSIE_PELICAN]

I'm starting to think even if Burke is there at 6 we will not pick him.
Based on what Monty said about River's being our PG.
I have a strange feeling we will go C or SG if Porter is gone (which is 90% likely).

If we do however draft Burke.......GOD help the poor guy if he doesn't live up to the CP3 hype.

[da ThRONe]

I think the other thing that gets lost with Burke is just how much he carried that team all year(very similar to Chris Paul). Nobody on that team could create their own shot efficiently or consistently besides him. Yet they were in the title game and a bad call away from potentially winning that game. Despite him getting into early foul trouble.

[da ThRONe]

Got ya sir. I'd be happy with they guy for sure. Just don't think he's Chris Paul.

Who is?

And to add to that Chris Paul wasn't Chris Paul until he started playing. If it could be redone you don't think the Bucks take Paul 1st overall?

[MonsterMash]

Got ya sir. I'd be happy with they guy for sure. Just don't think he's Chris Paul.

I'd be shocked if he were Paul as well, but there's plenty of room to be an elite player without being Paul.

[Purple Haze]

I'm starting to think even if Burke is there at 6 we will not pick him.
Based on what Monty said about River's being our PG.
I have a strange feeling we will go C or SG if Porter is gone (which is 90% likely).

If we do however draft Burke.......GOD help the poor guy if he doesn't live up to the CP3 hype.

No one is saying he's gonna be Chris Paul. No one is Chris Paul. He's just very similar in stature and that naturally brings out comparisons.

As far as a meltdown if he isn't there, nah not at all. Want him here but won't cry if he doesn't make it to 6, we'll get talent in one way or another. Now if we pass on him you might see me be pretty irritable for a while...

[BallSoHard]

I think the other thing that gets lost with Burke is just how much he carried that team all year(very similar to Chris Paul). Nobody on that team could create their own shot efficiently or consistently besides him. Yet they were in the title game and a bad call away from potentially winning that game. Despite him getting into early foul trouble.

Yes. He certainly carried a team with what? 4 nba players on it... Lets not act like he was on some talentless team like I feel you're trying to paint it. Was he the conduit? Certainly.

[BallSoHard]

Who is?

And to add to that Chris Paul wasn't Chris Paul until he started playing. If it could be redone you don't think the Bucks take Paul 1st overall?

That's who most people are comparing him to. It's not fair. He will always be a disappointment if pels fans keep making the comparison is what I'm saying.

[iNolaNightmare]

This has nothing to do with me being an avid Rivers supporter, but my bold statement is this:

The Pelicans will not select Trey Burke (if available) solely because of Austin Rivers. The more I really analyze it, I think we may take Zeller or Bazz.

I'm no psychic, though.

[da ThRONe]

Yes. He certainly carried a team with what? 4 nba players on it... Lets not act like he was on some talentless team like I feel you're trying to paint it. Was he the conduit? Certainly.

Still doesn't change the fact that none of them could consistently create a shot outside of Burke and good ball movement. I think Burke (like any elite PG should do) made those dudes look better than they were. He made the game easy for them while still getting his. That's what you want from the position. He didn't have a legit post option nor another play maker. All he had was bigs with good hands (and feet with McGray) , athletes that could finish and spot up shooters. Basically he had a bunch of role players albeit raw NBA level role players.

[da ThRONe]

No one is saying he's gonna be Chris Paul. No one is Chris Paul. He's just very similar in stature and that naturally brings out comparisons.

As far as a meltdown if he isn't there, nah not at all. Want him here but won't cry if he doesn't make it to 6, we'll get talent in one way or another. Now if we pass on him you might see me be pretty irritable for a while...

The similarities are deeper than just stature it's play style more than anything else. They play the position almost the same way meaning the almost all same strength along with almost all of the same weakness leaving college.

[Eman5805]

On this team, he doesn't even need to be Chris Paul. A Mike Conley comparison got made. That'd work out just fine. Hell. Give him Conley's defense coupled with that offense and that's a damn good PG.