My realistic offseason plan

[Purple Haze]

I wouldn't mind us going after Jennings, if we don't get Burke, but he certainly shouldn't get a max deal. That'd be absurd.

I'm with you. I'd do a declining 4/40 or so. Like 11 the first and on down. Problem is I guarantee the Bucks would match that.

[GeauxPelicans]

They are gonna lose them both regardless so why not?

They aren't losing Jennings, I have no idea why all you guys think they won't match any contract he signs. He a RESTRICTED FA, who shoots <40%!!!!!! Dude is so overrated its unbelievable.


EDIT:I think Cuban throws the max at him once CP and Dwight tell him no, jmo though.

[GESWhoseBack]

They aren't losing Jennings, I have no idea why all you guys think they won't match any contract he signs. He a RESTRICTED FA, who shoots <40%!!!!!! Dude is so overrated its u believable.

I'm with you

[mxlad1]

How come all those teams building through the draft picking in the top 10 picks are always building through the draft picking in the top 10 picks (Cavs, Wizards, Kings, Bobcats, Pistons, T'woles)? The only way the Clippers got out of that group is because they traded for CP.

Thunder? Durant, Westbrook, and Harden were all top 10 picks and were easily what catapulted their franchise to the top. It has to be management, although the T'wolves would probably not be in the lottery every year if Rubio could play more than 20 games in a season.

Thunder kill the draft in the late 1st round every single year too.

They aren't losing Jennings, I have no idea why all you guys think they won't match any contract he signs. He a RESTRICTED FA, who shoots <40%!!!!!! Dude is so overrated its unbelievable.


EDIT:I think Cuban throws the max at him once CP and Dwight tell him no, jmo though.

I said he was a RFA when I first brought Jennings, and said about 5 times since that it would have to be a sign-and-trade with the Bucks to get him. I truly think we'll be the only team that offers him a serious contract, which the Bucks will match, and we'll have to send them some assets.

Bucks management and fans are done with him. They have no plans for him long term. They can take some quality players from us now or see him walk for nothing in a year or so.

As far as <40%, he takes too many shots because he has no other option but to pull up with it. Put him on a team where he's not 99% of the offense I think he'll be outstanding. Westbrook would have the same numbers if he didn't have Durant. I don't think anyone here is going to tell me that Westbrook is a marvelous shooter. He can drive the lane and occasionally hit you with a clutch shot though.

He's probably on par with assists too. I'm willing to take the risk that he stays about the same there or gets better with a good supporting cast. If we can bring him in for the right price he's worth it, because he essentially provides the same things EG provides if we have to move him to the 2 position for less and can actually play a season.

Cuban is going to get his. It isn't going to be Jennings though.

[GeauxPelicans]

Having big numbers on a bad team is easier than having big numbers on a great team.

Gordon is a better scorer and a much better defensive player than all of those players you want to give a max contract to. Yeah, he doesn't deserve a max based on how little he's played for this team so far, but giving two more max contracts to players that aren't even all stars would destroy this team's cap. They're most likely going to have to give the max to Davis in three years and Ryan Anderson's contract will be up as well. Gordon's will be up if he doesn't opt out a year earlier, and Rivers' will also be up.

I find it more realistic that the Pelicans will take on Shawn Marion's contract to play the 3 this year in order to get that #13 pick to draft maybe Shabazz, along with drafting Zeller/Burke at 6 than to pay Jefferson, Pekovic, and/or Jennings the max.

For all the guys complaining about money, can you come up with a better lineup than this that doesn't involve the Pelicans tanking so they have a slim shot of drafting a certain player?

Projected Pelicans lineup:
PG: Jennings/Roberts
SG: McLemore/Rivers/Mason
SF: (Brewer or Budinger)/Harkless/Miller
PF: Davis/Anderson/Thomas
C: (Jefferson or Pekovic)/Smith

Thunder? Durant, Westbrook, and Harden were all top 10 picks and were easily what catapulted their franchise to the top. It has to be management, although the T'wolves would probably not be in the lottery every year if Rubio could play more than 20 games in a season.

Thunder kill the draft in the late 1st round every single year too.



I said he was a RFA when I first brought Jennings, and said about 5 times since that it would have to be a sign-and-trade with the Bucks to get him. I truly think we'll be the only team that offers him a serious contract, which the Bucks will match, and we'll have to send them some assets.

Bucks management and fans are done with him. They have no plans for him long term. They can take some quality players from us now or see him walk for nothing in a year or so.

As far as <40%, he takes too many shots because he has no other option but to pull up with it. Put him on a team where he's not 99% of the offense I think he'll be outstanding. Westbrook would have the same numbers if he didn't have Durant. I don't think anyone here is going to tell me that Westbrook is a marvelous shooter. He can drive the lane and occasionally hit you with a clutch shot though.

He's probably on par with assists too. I'm willing to take the risk that he stays about the same there or gets better with a good supporting cast. If we can bring him in for the right price he's worth it, because he essentially provides the same things EG provides if we have to move him to the 2 position for less and can actually play a season.

Cuban is going to get his. It isn't going to be Jennings though.

If he signs a contract with us, and Milwaukee matches he can't be traded to us for at least a year so that won't work. He had plenty of option on that team, to assist the ball too. Monta Ellis, a 20+ points per game scorer, Ersan Ilyasova, a 15+ per game scorer. I just don't see the fascination with this kid. He can't shoot, is a ball hog, and is a cry baby. Dude has said multiple times, he wants to play in a big market. No thanks Burke will be better than this kid next year.

[Darkhorse985]

If he signs a contract with us, and Milwaukee matches he can't be traded to us for at least a year so that won't work. He had plenty of option on that team, to assist the ball too. Monta Ellis, a 20+ points per game scorer, Ersan Ilyasova, a 15+ per game scorer. I just don't see the fascination with this kid. He can't shoot, is a ball hog, and is a cry baby. Dude has said multiple times, he wants to play in a big market. No thanks Burke will be better than this kid next year.

Hmmmm, so how did we get Ryan Anderson as a RFA and have to give the Magic Gustavo Ayon? The point is that if the Bucks truly don't want to pay him a max or close to max contract then they will agree to a sign and trade to at least get something out of the deal, and a Vasquez/Lopez swap would be really good for them. I agree Burke probably will be better as a player eventually, but which group is better? Burke/Gordon/Lopez or Jennings/McLemore/(Jefferson or Pekovic)? I'd take the later.

[Psalm 102.6]

There is middle ground, it's not a black or white thing. ATL dug their own grave with that one.

Brooklyn is a PRIME example of what overpaying players can do. They're stuck with some awful contracts and are they really in a position where one can say they have potential for upward mobility in the standings?

[Psalm 102.6]

How come all those teams building through the draft picking in the top 10 picks are always building through the draft picking in the top 10 picks (Cavs, Wizards, Kings, Bobcats, Pistons, T'woles)? The only way the Clippers got out of that group is because they traded for CP.

There's a difference between having a pick in the top ten and picking smart. At least three teams you mentioned remain in the perennially rebuilding mode because they fail to scout properly and wind up making picks on players that don't wind up panning out, essentially continuing the cycle of crappiness.