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The thing with Jennings too is that he's a chucker but he's not a bad dude personally, so I find it hard to hate him as a player...Originally Posted by HornetGuru
Jennings/Rivers
Gordon/Dipo
Brewer/Miller
Davis/Ryno
Pek/Lopez
I mean DUDE. That's totally attainable, easily. And not one person on that team is over 27.
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Agreed. Especially a small market team. This is the problem I have free agency as we are currently constructed. Our biggest selling point is money.
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Agree 100%. These NBA contract are getting ridiculous.
There is absolutely no way that Eric Gordon should have a max contract when he hasn't played consecutive games in 2 years. Good players are not coming to small market teams without getting paid. With the way the team is constructed in my proposal, the pelicans could afford to pay 2 players the max or close to it.
Last edited by Darkhorse985; 05-23-2013 at 11:11 AM.
This is true that why I'm really not a fan of building through FA cause we waste money having to overpay FA. Paying non max players the max is Recipe for disaster. Ask Atlanta
We want more! We want more!
There is middle ground, it's not a black or white thing. ATL dug their own grave with that one.
How come all those teams building through the draft picking in the top 10 picks are always building through the draft picking in the top 10 picks (Cavs, Wizards, Kings, Bobcats, Pistons, T'woles)? The only way the Clippers got out of that group is because they traded for CP.
Last edited by Darkhorse985; 05-23-2013 at 11:40 AM.
Bad management
Who said anything about just building through the draft? I said I don't like throwing max money at non max players. You get your cornerstones in the draft and you put good contracts like Anderson's around him. I know you have to sign FA but you don't have to overpay for the above average ones.
Lol I was going to say that too
Gordon is a better scorer and a much better defensive player than all of those players you want to give a max contract to. Yeah, he doesn't deserve a max based on how little he's played for this team so far, but giving two more max contracts to players that aren't even all stars would destroy this team's cap. They're most likely going to have to give the max to Davis in three years and Ryan Anderson's contract will be up as well. Gordon's will be up if he doesn't opt out a year earlier, and Rivers' will also be up.
I find it more realistic that the Pelicans will take on Shawn Marion's contract to play the 3 this year in order to get that #13 pick to draft maybe Shabazz, along with drafting Zeller/Burke at 6 than to pay Jefferson, Pekovic, and/or Jennings the max.
I obviously don't have the numbers in front of me, but the front office could work the aforementioned big FA deals in a way that prepares them to sign Davis to a max deal in 3 years with a team option in lets say the Jefferson/Pekovic deal.
For all the guys complaining about money, can you come up with a better lineup than this that doesn't involve the Pelicans tanking so they have a slim shot of drafting a certain player?
Projected Pelicans lineup:
PG: Jennings/Roberts
SG: McLemore/Rivers/Mason
SF: (Brewer or Budinger)/Harkless/Miller
PF: Davis/Anderson/Thomas
C: (Jefferson or Pekovic)/Smith
Last edited by Darkhorse985; 05-23-2013 at 12:19 PM.
But let's look at them separately.
Cavs. Just 3 yrs since losing Lebron. Have a decent core and if they don't screw this pick up may be on there way. But messed not taking Barnes. Could have Irving, McClemore, and Barnes.
Wizards Perpetual lottery team. Wall and beal are solid but the rest of there moves are shaky. Lewis for Ariza and Okafor? Really!?
Kings They just draft terribly. Outside of Cousins all there picks are dissappointments!
Bobcats Michael Jordan.
Pistons I think they a player away. Drummond and Monroe will be scary for a long time.
T-wolves. They simply just can't stay healthy. The have a nice team right now.
I hate to say it, but i really like this idea. We get a veteran SF, another draft pick, and if im correct he is expiring. There is nobody in FA that i love, so i would do this in a heartbeat. According to Marion he doesnt want to be traded to a bad team... So this might be less likely than i hoped.
Last edited by JJackisangry; 05-23-2013 at 11:59 AM.
I obviously have more faith in Gordon than you do. But I feel like we need to take our big now and see how Austin develops this year. That team up there has luxury tax all over it and we can't pay it. Two max players are the most we are any small market can afford. That's Why harden is in Houston. I would rather roll with this team and continue to develop them
PG:Rivers, GV
SG:Gordon, Roberts cause he is much better fit as a shooter off the bench than pg.
SF:Aminu,Miller don't like Brewer don't know why everybody keep bringing him up
PF:AD, Ryno
C: Len, Smith
This team I Know is probably a piece away but it has the potential to be very good.
This team is worse that what we had this year. At least Lopez can play. Len is injured and hasn't proven anything.
The same can be said of McClemore. And I think our young guys will improve especially AD, Austin, and Aminu. The team you have has maxed out cap wise and talent wise except maybe Jennings. You hoping for AD to make a huge jump with your squad and we stuck in that bottom of the playoffs hell hole.
The problem I have is this is a good team not great and it kills any flexibility we have financially.
If Jennings is on a max and Jefferson where's the money for Davis and McLemore?
Nobody is going to give Jennings a max contract.
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I would hope not. However I don't see Jennings coming here for market value. We'll have to give him something close to a max to get him here. Jennings want a large market.
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I wouldn't mind us going after Jennings, if we don't get Burke, but he certainly shouldn't get a max deal. That'd be absurd.
We get rid of Lopez at 5 million which covers McLemore. Davis is signed for the next 3 years, so we can do one of the big contracts for 3 years with a team option 4th year. Maybe we can save roughly 3 million with the 2 big contracts by not offering the full max to sign a SF like a Budinger, Brewer, or even Aminu. The numbers could work. We would be maxed out but it would work. We could eventually trade Anderson in a year or 2 if we need more money for future players since we would have solid 3 point shooters in Jennings and McLemore.
Also, how can u say this can't develop into a great team? Look at the Spurs, this team is just as talented if not more depending on our young player development.
Last edited by Darkhorse985; 05-23-2013 at 02:26 PM.
With so few teams actually having money to spend, and a lot of teams scared of the tax, I don't think all of these dudes are going to get the kind of money they're looking for. Jennings actually may get the Gordon deal from someone, but guys like Smith and others who are in line for a bigger "max" ceiling I think are in for a rude awakening.
Having to make all these moves is the flexibility he talking about. Trading away Ryno, just dumping Lopez. By the way Jennings is not a shooter and no guarantee McClemore one either. Xavier was suppose to be a shooter too. But anyway like I said your team would never win a championship unless AD becomes a once in a lifetime talent and Austin does indeed become Tony Parker 2.0. But hey making the playoffs every year and losing better than not making it at all I guess.
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