Don't be too upset with #6 pick

[PELICANSFAN]

I really disagree. Monty went out of his way to mention Davis AND Rivers when asked about the teams future. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they passed on Burke.

Maybe, but it would be a huge mistake IMO.

[Kumar]

Also, there are multiple reports that Mavs are looking to trade the 13th pick for capspace making a run at Dwight. That is where Saric is projected to go.

[Purple Haze]

I really disagree. Monty went out of his way to mention Davis AND Rivers when asked about the teams future. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they passed on Burke.

And we'll be laughed at for years. Just my opinion of course. And as I've said in other threads, I saw that too and agree with you.

[PELICANSFAN]

Also, there are multiple reports that Mavs are looking to trade the 13th pick for capspace making a run at Dwight. That is where Saric is projected to go.

Yeah but is any team going to take on Marion's contract for the 13th pick? That seems to be a steep price to pay for the 13.

[NemesisKING]

Yeah but is any team going to take on Marion's contract for the 13th pick? That seems to be a steep price to pay for the 13.

I don't know if that was the point, i think the quote meant that they didn't want to use the pick this year, not that you can have it if you take Marion, i think they want to sell it for cash, so they won't have to commit even the 1+ million that the 13 pick would get for those years.

They want every single penny available to them to use for Dwight Howard.

I also read that Portland might be willing to trade the 10th pick too.

To me, the hornets should be buyers for who ever is selling. if you can get 2, 3 4, picks, i would take them all. because you will have lots of roster spots, and all those guys that you could draft would be more talented then the end of the bench guys currently on this team who still need to be developed at this stage of their careers anyway.

People say we're young, but we only have a few young guys who are actually talented. The other young guys are not actually that young and aren't talented at all, they might be young vets in age, but their old vets in athletic ability.

We have space on this team for new back ups, you could fill in Roberts, Thomas, Henry, Harris and Amundson's roster spots with purchased 1st rounders.

A Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Rudy Gobert, Michael Carter Williams, and Isaiah Austin would all look really good and something different to this team despite their youth.

KCW, if we trade Gordon would give a 6'6 shooting guard to mold for the future, who comes in with that killer instinct, playing defense, a really good shooter and he's a few days younger the Ben Mclemore.

MCW, gives you a 6'6 pg with athletic and defensive ability, he would allow us to create match up problems especially if our starting Pg ends up being Eric Bledsoe.

Rudy Gobert, would give a us a 7'2 athletic center to bring along slow, he could be ready when AD is really ready in a couple more years, or at least by the next year. That would be a really difficult match up for teams in a series Same thing with Isaiah Austin.

And even if with trying to win next year, we still will have time and the coaching to develop those players. They become valuable assets that can help us to reload and make deals in the future that could allow us to be contenders for many years.

This is the year to do that.

[PELICANSFAN]

I don't know if that was the point, i think the quote meant that they didn't want to use the pick this year, not that you can have it if you take Marion, i think they want to sell it for cash, so they won't have to commit even the 1+ million that the 13 pick would get for those years.

They want every single penny available to them to use for Dwight Howard.

I also read that Portland might be willing to trade the 10th pick too.

To me, the hornets should be buyers for who ever is selling. if you can get 2, 3 4, picks, i would take them all. because you will have lots of roster spots, and all those guys that you could draft would be more talented then the end of the bench guys currently on this team who still need to be developed at this stage of their careers anyway.

People say we're young, but we only have a few young guys who are actually talented. The other young guys are not actually that young and aren't talented at all.

We have space on this team for new back ups, you could fill in Roberts, Thomas, Henry, Harris and Amundson's roster spots with purchased 1st rounders.

A Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Rudy Gobert, Michael Carter Williams, and Isaiah Austin would all look really good and something different to this team despite their youth.

KCW, if we trade Gordon would give a 6'6 shooting guard to mold for the future, who comes in with that killer instinct, playing defense, a really good shooter and he's a few days younger the Ben Mclemore.

MCW, gives you a 6'6 pg with athletic and defensive ability, he would allow us to create match up problems especially if our starting Pg ends up being Eric Bledsoe.

Rudy Gobert, would give a us a 7'2 athletic center to bring along slow, he could be ready when AD is really ready in a couple more years, or at least by the next year. That would be a really difficult match up for teams in a series Same thing with Isaiah Austin.

And even if with trying to win next year, we still will have time and the coaching to develop those players. They become valuable assets that can help us to reload and make deals in the future that could allow us to be contenders for many years.

This is the year to do that.

Dallas does not have the room to sign Howard. They need to shed Marion's contract. That is what they will use the pick for if they trade it.

[nosfan1019]

I really disagree. Monty went out of his way to mention Davis AND Rivers when asked about the teams future. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they passed on Burke.

I think Rivers can play SG no? At this point an energy guy to lead the 2nd unit would be best case senario IMO. I know this has been discussed ad nauseum, but I don't see how you don't try and upgrade at PG if you can. Now to your point thats not necessarily how Dell/Monty are thinking.

[NemesisKING]

Dallas does not have the room to sign Howard. They need to shed Marion's contract. That is what they will use the pick for if they trade it.

It seems you're right, but they also have to trade Vince Carter, hope Oj mayo declines his option, relinquish their rights to Collison and Beaubois, probably have to even trade Jarred Cunningham.

Marion would be way to much for us to take on. There is to much we can do with that 8 million.

[Mr. West]

I don't know if that was the point, i think the quote meant that they didn't want to use the pick this year, not that you can have it if you take Marion, i think they want to sell it for cash, so they won't have to commit even the 1+ million that the 13 pick would get for those years.

They want every single penny available to them to use for Dwight Howard.

I also read that Portland might be willing to trade the 10th pick too.

To me, the hornets should be buyers for who ever is selling. if you can get 2, 3 4, picks, i would take them all. because you will have lots of roster spots, and all those guys that you could draft would be more talented then the end of the bench guys currently on this team who still need to be developed at this stage of their careers anyway.

People say we're young, but we only have a few young guys who are actually talented. The other young guys are not actually that young and aren't talented at all, they might be young vets in age, but their old vets in athletic ability.

We have space on this team for new back ups, you could fill in Roberts, Thomas, Henry, Harris and Amundson's roster spots with purchased 1st rounders.

A Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Rudy Gobert, Michael Carter Williams, and Isaiah Austin would all look really good and something different to this team despite their youth.

KCW, if we trade Gordon would give a 6'6 shooting guard to mold for the future, who comes in with that killer instinct, playing defense, a really good shooter and he's a few days younger the Ben Mclemore.

MCW, gives you a 6'6 pg with athletic and defensive ability, he would allow us to create match up problems especially if our starting Pg ends up being Eric Bledsoe.

Rudy Gobert, would give a us a 7'2 athletic center to bring along slow, he could be ready when AD is really ready in a couple more years, or at least by the next year. That would be a really difficult match up for teams in a series Same thing with Isaiah Austin.

And even if with trying to win next year, we still will have time and the coaching to develop those players. They become valuable assets that can help us to reload and make deals in the future that could allow us to be contenders for many years.

This is the year to do that.

Zero chance the Mavs just sell their pick. Would they sell it to unload Marion? Probably. But no chance Cuban just dumps the pick in the name of "Capspace"

[da ThRONe]

Yeh, Rivers is going to get a chance to be our starting PG next year and picking Burke will throw a wrench in that plan.

How so? Rivers is a project everybody from the media to coaching to front office to fans agree. It's like saying having Vasquez will throw a wrench into the plan. If the plan is to keep all 3 that could be a problem but Burke is ready to start day one. So if we draft him GV is expendable. Rivers will get his mins playing behind Burke like he would Vasquez.

[da ThRONe]

If we can dump Gordon contract if PHX takes Oladipo. We can do a trade once Gordon can be moved there. I'd eat Marion contract and having a seasoned vet around for a year can't hurt. With the 13th pick I'd look to Steven Adams from Pitt. I know I'm unique in my approach to building young. I think youth isn't the problem it's getting the right young players. 3 picks in what is considered as a weak class may seem crazy, but when you think of Burke/Oladipo both have 5 years experience combine in what was the best conference in college hoops. Adams would be a huge swing but at the price of adding Marion for a year it's worth it IMO. Ofcourse everybody seems stuck on winning ASAP as opposed to winning big when we can so I doubt anything close to this happens.

[AD23forMVP]

And we'll be laughed at for years. Just my opinion of course. And as I've said in other threads, I saw that too and agree with you.

You really overrate Burke to be honest.

[WhoDatPelican]

http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm

[Rheem654]

I don't know if that was the point, i think the quote meant that they didn't want to use the pick this year, not that you can have it if you take Marion, i think they want to sell it for cash, so they won't have to commit even the 1+ million that the 13 pick would get for those years.

They want every single penny available to them to use for Dwight Howard.

I also read that Portland might be willing to trade the 10th pick too.

To me, the hornets should be buyers for who ever is selling. if you can get 2, 3 4, picks, i would take them all. because you will have lots of roster spots, and all those guys that you could draft would be more talented then the end of the bench guys currently on this team who still need to be developed at this stage of their careers anyway.

People say we're young, but we only have a few young guys who are actually talented. The other young guys are not actually that young and aren't talented at all, they might be young vets in age, but their old vets in athletic ability.

We have space on this team for new back ups, you could fill in Roberts, Thomas, Henry, Harris and Amundson's roster spots with purchased 1st rounders.

A Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Rudy Gobert, Michael Carter Williams, and Isaiah Austin would all look really good and something different to this team despite their youth.

KCW, if we trade Gordon would give a 6'6 shooting guard to mold for the future, who comes in with that killer instinct, playing defense, a really good shooter and he's a few days younger the Ben Mclemore.

MCW, gives you a 6'6 pg with athletic and defensive ability, he would allow us to create match up problems especially if our starting Pg ends up being Eric Bledsoe.

Rudy Gobert, would give a us a 7'2 athletic center to bring along slow, he could be ready when AD is really ready in a couple more years, or at least by the next year. That would be a really difficult match up for teams in a series Same thing with Isaiah Austin.

And even if with trying to win next year, we still will have time and the coaching to develop those players. They become valuable assets that can help us to reload and make deals in the future that could allow us to be contenders for many years.

This is the year to do that.

Isaiah Austin pulled out of the draft and is returning to Baylor next season: http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews....t-baylor.html/

[new city champ]

If we can dump Gordon contract if PHX takes Oladipo. We can do a trade once Gordon can be moved there. I'd eat Marion contract and having a seasoned vet around for a year can't hurt. With the 13th pick I'd look to Steven Adams from Pitt. I know I'm unique in my approach to building young. I think youth isn't the problem it's getting the right young players. 3 picks in what is considered as a weak class may seem crazy, but when you think of Burke/Oladipo both have 5 years experience combine in what was the best conference in college hoops. Adams would be a huge swing but at the price of adding Marion for a year it's worth it IMO. Ofcourse everybody seems stuck on winning ASAP as opposed to winning big when we can so I doubt anything close to this happens.

I'm with you on sticking to building with youth and I'm a season ticket holder. Hope the club is patient and builds the right way without chasing overpriced, marginal free agents. Now if it's a young vet with upside, that's different. But I wouldn't, for example, deal the sixth overall pick for Eric Bledsoe or Chandler Parsons.

Steve Adams, really? I get the sense he's a workout guy. Are there really that many examples of NBA rotation bigs who didn't do much in college? Though I guess he is still pretty young.

[BallSoHard]

Ha! Another group thinks he's more Kemba Walker than Paul. Validated!

[da ThRONe]

I'm with you on sticking to building with youth and I'm a season ticket holder. Hope the club is patient and builds the right way without chasing overpriced, marginal free agents. Now if it's a young vet with upside, that's different. But I wouldn't, for example, deal the sixth overall pick for Eric Bledsoe or Chandler Parsons.

Steve Adams, really? I get the sense he's a workout guy. Are there really that many examples of NBA rotation bigs who didn't do much in college? Though I guess he is still pretty young.

Dude super raw and shows so much skill. That's more my personal preference. At 13th with the back court already selected at 5 and 6 it would be a really high reward with a minimal risk.

[WhoDatPelican]

another http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/f...ft-JeffGoodman

[Purple Haze]

You really overrate Burke to be honest.

I really don't don't. Just because I value him doesn't mean I overrate him.

[AD23forMVP]

another http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/f...ft-JeffGoodman

Someone should tell Goodman the Hornets would never pass on Porter, no matter who's still on the board.

[AD23forMVP]

I really don't don't. Just because I value him doesn't mean I overrate him.

Of course it doesn't, but you overrate him. Nobody would laugh at us for years for passing him up.

He isn't THAT good, if he was he'd be projected higher in a weak draft.

[WhoDatPelican]

Someone should tell Goodman the Hornets would never pass on Porter, no matter who's still on the board.

Which Hornets? The Pelicans or the soon to be Charlotte Hornets? See...this is confusing.

[Purple Haze]

Of course it doesn't, but you overrate him. Nobody would laugh at us for years for passing him up.

He isn't THAT good, if he was he'd be projected higher in a weak draft.

He's good enough that passing on him for the Rivers Project would get us laughed, yes. You forgot that part.

[TrayWithAnA]

Someone should tell Goodman the Hornets would never pass on Porter, no matter who's still on the board.

Yeah, I would think someone would need to be slapped if we drafted Burke over Porter. I don't think Porter will be there still, but if he is, that is a no-brainer.

[FlyGirl]

http://hoopshype.com/draft.htm

On the negative side, Burke lacks elite level speed and athleticism,

Wow. Haven't I heard this many times here about a guy that's already on this team? I guess Burke has other attributes that people like to make up for it though right? Younger, better passer? Great in the pick and roll?

I like Burke. I like Porter. I'm glad I'm not a GM.

http://www.nbadraft.net/

This mock has Burke at 6.