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    Quote Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack View Post
    You know Drummond 6'10 right. Or was anyway.
    Drummond measured 7 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD23forMVP View Post
    Drummond measured 7 feet.
    With 2 inch heels, maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibner View Post
    With 2 inch heels, maybe.

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    6'11.75 in basketball shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
    6'11.75 in basketball shoes.
    He gained 2 inches with shoes with is really unusual, but even if you give him the more traditional 1.25' he's still 6'11 even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    He gained 2 inches with shoes with is really unusual, but even if you give him the more traditional 1.25' he's still 6'11 even.
    Last year as well. Everyone wants to keep saying ad can and has grown. So with that logic so could have drummond. I've always liked him, would have taken him number 2.

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    I still remember Drummond slid past Portland last year. I saw a glimmer of shining hope that we might land him at 10. Then Detroit ruined a beautiful thing.

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    They need to stop listing players based on height w/ shoes. What's the point? Just wear thicker shoes. It's also ridiculous that Thomas Robinson gets listed at the same height as Anthony Davis & Andre Drummond (6'10") on NBA.com despite the fact that he measured lower w/ shoes than Davis & Drummond measured w/o shoes. If I remember correctly, he only measured 6'8.75" w/ shoes and still gets rounded up a full inch and a quarter.

    Anyway... as for Cleveland getting #1 pick again... they still won't turn out like OKC. OKC had picks #2, 3, 4, 5, & 24 over three years while Cleveland now has picks #1, 1, 4, 4, 24 over three years. Except unfortunately for Cleveland... the two years they had #1 it was a very weak draft and I personally think they made a bad choice with Waiters. While he may turn into a good player, I thought Barnes was a much better player & prospect.

    To me, Kyrie Irving & Nerlens Noel would be like having Gilbert Arenas & Marcus Camby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLa. View Post
    I still remember Drummond slid past Portland last year. I saw a glimmer of shining hope that we might land him at 10. Then Detroit ruined a beautiful thing.
    I still don't think the Hornets would have selected him. I think Monty's personal relationship with Rivers swayed that pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicans78 View Post
    I would be cool with McCollum at 6. He can flat out play. Zeller would be fine too. He's an offensive dynamo in this draft.
    Agreed on both counts. Though I'm starting to believe the same as Mike Mc and others referencing how Monty brought up Rivers along with Davis in that interview... I really think he wants him to be our starting PG. I suppose they could try CJ at the 2 in that case (at least more so than Burke if he was taken). But I can guarantee you that CJ is going to wow in workouts ala Lillard.

    As far as Zeller, I've made my opinion known that he is my top C prospect (yes, C not PF) over Len. Way over Len. Only problem is his brother has had some real problems putting weight on in Cleveland, and he has the same body type and genetics. But talk about athletic... Davis and Zeller running the floor? Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    Agreed on both counts. Though I'm starting to believe the same as Mike Mc and others referencing how Monty brought up Rivers along with Davis in that interview... I really think he wants him to be our starting PG. I suppose they could try CJ at the 2 in that case (at least more so than Burke if he was taken). But I can guarantee you that CJ is going to wow in workouts ala Lillard.

    As far as Zeller, I've made my opinion known that he is my top C prospect (yes, C not PF) over Len. Way over Len. Only problem is his brother has had some real problems putting weight on in Cleveland, and he has the same body type and genetics. But talk about athletic... Davis and Zeller running the floor? Wow.
    Yeah, it concerned me that Monty brought up Rivers as well. I do think he wants him to be our PG. I worry that his personal feeling for Rivers are playing into his decision making. I wonder how many other coaches feel Rivers has PG ability. I hope Monty is right or he could set this team back a ways in its rebuilding. I think CJ is going to impress as well. However, if Monty is sold on Rivers, I do not see him taking him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    I still don't think the Hornets would have selected him. I think Monty's personal relationship with Rivers swayed that pick.
    It certainty would have been a predicament for the front office. Who was next after us? Portland? They would have had the two biggest steals if so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Yeah, it concerned me that Monty brought up Rivers as well. I do think he wants him to be our PG. I worry that his personal feeling for Rivers are playing into his decision making. I wonder how many other coaches feel Rivers has PG ability. I hope Monty is right or he could set this team back a ways in its rebuilding. I think CJ is going to impress as well. However, if Monty is sold on Rivers, I do not see him taking him.
    Rivers played better as a PG. The team is doing the right thing developing him for the position he plays best. Forcing rivers to play SG just because you want to draft a 2nd tier PG this year doesn't really help the rebuild either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    I still don't think the Hornets would have selected him. I think Monty's personal relationship with Rivers swayed that pick.
    What prospect was better than Rivers at 10?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    Rivers played better as a PG. The team is doing the right thing developing him for the position he plays best. Forcing rivers to play SG just because you want to draft a 2nd tier PG this year doesn't really help the rebuild either.
    1. Considering Rivers hadn't played PG until this year, I don't consider it "forcing" him to play SG.

    2. I didn't want the dude ANYWAY, why do we have to build our entire rebuilding plan around a 10th pick that had a historically bad season last year? That's ludicrous imo.

    3. I don't think you can "tier" any player before they've played a minute at the next level. Where would you have tiered Lillard?

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    You're ignoring that he looked better at PG than SG and that he clearly started to "get it" at the end of his season and showed some flashes of a really good player in the making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    You're ignoring that he looked better at PG than SG and that he clearly started to "get it" at the end of his season and showed some flashes of a really good player in the making.
    I'm not at all, and I've said extensively that I saw the same thing you guys saw prior to the broken hand.

    Doesn't mean you base your entire rebuild future on that 14 games worth of progression. Additionally, he played more PG AS he started to "get it". Chicken or egg? I think he would have "gotten it" at SG as well.

    I want Rivers on this team. But at SG. Probably 6th man SG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    1. Considering Rivers hadn't played PG until this year, I don't consider it "forcing" him to play SG.

    2. I didn't want the dude ANYWAY, why do we have to build our entire rebuilding plan around a 10th pick that had a historically bad season last year? That's ludicrous imo.

    3. I don't think you can "tier" any player before they've played a minute at the next level. Where would you have tiered Lillard?
    If it's not Trey Burke, I don't see a PG worth drafting over our other needs, so, no, it's not ludicrous. Lillard was in the 2nd tier and clearly the best PG available. I had wet dreams of a Davis/Lillard or Davis/drummond draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    You're ignoring that he looked better at PG than SG and that he clearly started to "get it" at the end of his season and showed some flashes of a really good player in the making.
    I don't think he ever consistently showed that he can play the PG. He looked terrible at both positions over the course of the season, so to say he looked better at PG is all relative. He had a few games where he played better before he got hurt, but not a big enough sample to determine if it was an improvement in his overall game or a just a few good games. He is a work in progress and is very young, so there is hope. I hope he develops as a top PG because I think Monty is hell bent on using him there. He worries me though because he is not a distributor, tries to make his living on driving to the basket to draw a foul (and does not have the body to do this on a regular basis in the NBA) and is a bad FT shooter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    I'm not at all, and I've said extensively that I saw the same thing you guys saw prior to the broken hand.

    Doesn't mean you base your entire rebuild future on that 14 games worth of progression. Additionally, he played more PG AS he started to "get it". Chicken or egg? I think he would have "gotten it" at SG as well.

    I want Rivers on this team. But at SG. Probably 6th man SG.
    Agree. You don't pass on better options cause rivers improved from historically bad to bad. If he comes along n grows into the guy. Then we have pieces for trade later down the road. Never hurts to have more than 1 "guy"
    Last edited by kclaboy504; 05-22-2013 at 11:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    I don't think he ever consistently showed that he can play the PG. He looked terrible at both positions over the course of the season, so to say he looked better at PG is all relative. He had a few games where he played better before he got hurt, but not a big enough sample to determine if it was an improvement in his overall game or a just a few good games. He is a work in progress and is very young, so there is hope. I hope he develops as a top PG because I think Monty is hell bent on using him there. He worries me though because he is not a distributor, tries to make his living on driving to the basket to draw a foul (and does not have the body to do this on a regular basis in the NBA) and is a bad FT shooter.
    Not too worried about his ft shooting. He is a gym rat. That should improve. I'm more worried about him developing his left and jumpshot and not shooting floaters from 18-20 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    Not too worried about his ft shooting. He is a gym rat. That should improve. I'm more worried about him developing his left and jumpshot and not shooting floaters from 18-20 feet.
    He is a gym rat. However, he also grew up under an NBA player and coach and had access to many of the best basketball players, trainers and minds. Despite that, his mechanics are terrible. I cannot believe his Dad or coaches never worked with him to fix that funky shooting mechanic he has.

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    Austin's dad was his dad. Not his coach. That's the way he wanted it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    Austin's dad was his dad. Not his coach. That's the way he wanted it to be.
    Any Dad would help his son if he saw something wrong. Do you really believe that a former NBA player and NBA coach would not help his some with simple mechanics? Not a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Any Dad would help his son if he saw something wrong. Do you really believe that a former NBA player and NBA coach would not help his some with simple mechanics? Not a chance.
    Austin was killing it in high school. Why would Doc mess with that? If it ain't broken......
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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Any Dad would help his son if he saw something wrong. Do you really believe that a former NBA player and NBA coach would not help his some with simple mechanics? Not a chance.
    Do you really think anyone of us know that for sure. Nobody can say that because they didn't grow up in the Rivers household. And Doc has stated many times to national media that when he started playing MS/HS ball he let his coaches coach him because he didn't want to put pressure on him to be like him.

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