I think Burke is the most proven player and difference maker in this draft. I think he is the best fit on this team over anyone else in the draft.Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN
 |
| . |
|
I think Burke is the most proven player and difference maker in this draft. I think he is the best fit on this team over anyone else in the draft.
I'm in this camp.
Do you believe that Gordon is or will be a core player for us? He will bolt from this team as soon as he can get someone else to pay him good money. And I don't think any team would give us a young player with tremendous upside for Gordon. So, why not get a good veteran player in Deng who can serve as a leader on this team?
Last edited by Darkhorse985; 05-20-2013 at 02:55 PM.
I agree 100%
I think his ceiling is far higher than many believe. There aren't too many guys I think have "it" this kid oozes "it".
They played AAU together and are great friends.
Victor Oladipo is the only guy I want to draft. If we can't get him, we need to trade down or trade for a vet or for a pick next year.
I agree about building younger. I almost say draft burke. See how the season goes if gordon still wants out trade him at the allstar break or offseason. I know people hate to tank (I don't either), but if gordon traded then hopefully get a good SF in next years draft. Let all the young guys develope over the 2nd half of the season. I just don't think monty could stand another year w/o playoffs.
My ideal off season:
I trade Gordon/Lopez for Bledsoe/Jordan/Green
That trade saves us $4m and locks in our PG of the future to play with out PF of the future (Ant).
It also gives us a big athletic center who can defend and run. If he's never develops into more than what he is today, we give him 20 minutes a game and walk away in 2 years or sign him to a smaller contract than his current one. He gives us a completely different skill set than Anderson, Smith, and AD. I like the versatility that means we'll have.
In the draft I draft Oladipo or trade back for a veteran SG and a pick. Gordon Hayward and Utah's pick would be enough for me. Same with Wesley Matthews and Portland's pick.
In free agency I throw all my chips at Iguodala or.... Wait for it... Wait for it ...Josh Smith. Either one of those would be the best SF we've had since Mashburn and would be nasty defensively and running lanes when paired with Bledsoe at the point and either Anderson spotting up behind the line, or Jordan going to the rim. Our shooting guard options for various lineups will either be an athletic rookie, Rivers, a young vet acquired via trade, or Willie Green.
I think that team gets in playoff contention next year, especially if we can acquire the right SG.
I don't think Gordon wants to be here. Not sure he really ever had any reason to since he got here. So I agree there. However I would be aiming for draft picks.
I have not seen one Gordon trade proposal where we get the better of the deal. SMH. Pleople...Gordon is not going anywhere UNLESS we get a deal we cannot refuse and this trade is not one of them. Move On.
Who makes a deal where they are aware going in believing that one team is obviously getting the better deal??? If Gordon demonstrated during his young careers that he can stay healthy and be a leader, we'd get better deals. But at the same time, it makes no sense to overvalue and keep a player who has not demonstrated he can stay healthy and be a leader!
What we're looking for are fair deals. Not clear wins for the Pelicans.
Best case scenario is a deal that seems fair today or slightly weighted the other way, and turns into a deal we look back on 3 years from now and declare ourselves the clear winner.
That's the same outlook teams trading for Gordon will have. Best case scenario.
All that being said, that's why this is my least favorite trade. Best case scenario is you get a developmental prospect late in draft and an aging borderline all star that gives you a discount and resigns after this season.
Something really funny I observed:
You guys saying you wouldn't do Gordon for Deng straight up don't have to worry. Chicago wouldn't either.
I completely disagree. They'd be getting an actual 2-guard (something they don't have). They'd gladly let Jimmy Butler play the 3.Something really funny I observed:
You guys saying you wouldn't do Gordon for Deng straight up don't have to worry. Chicago wouldn't either.
By actual 2 guard, do you mean an actual 2 guard who can't stay on the court?
A healthy Gordon would be the homerun they need in order to get pass the Heat. Butler has shown that he can take Deng's minutes and Deng is an unrestricted free agent in 2014 meaning Chicago could ultimately lose him for nothing. They'd gladly move Butler into the SF spot and roll the dice with Gordon.
The only team I see taking Gordon is one desperate to win now or without a legit scoring threats. The Bulls don't fit either IMO.
Any team in the East fits that desperate label.
Gordon, if healthy, would give teams like Pacers/Bulls the exact player they're missing to get pass Heat.
...and both have former all star SF's on expiring deals that they're not going to resign, so might as well get something for them.
Last edited by NMThreeMVP; 05-20-2013 at 06:36 PM.
Not a very good idea for the Bulls. They need to worry about depth, not tie all of their money into four players.
Something really funny I observed:
You guys saying you wouldn't do Gordon for Deng straight up don't have to worry. Chicago wouldn't either.
What's even funnier is that you are pointing to Gordon's injury issues as the reason why Chicago wouldn't make the trade, yet Deng only played 54 games last year, and he missed more than half their playoff games this post-season, including the entire Heat series.
What's even funnier, is that comparing the two's durability is like comparing apples to oranges. Woopdy doo, Deng missed however many games this past year. Eric Gordon missed 97 the past two years.
I think Eric Gordon has all the potential in the world. I truly do. I'm also not one of the people shouting for him to be traded. However, when there is true evidence that he can't stay healthy for a full season, there should be no denial. And please don't bring up the " all of them were minor injuries" argument. I've heard it all. I never once said anything about him not wanting to be here, rather I provided tangible evidence.
I like Eric Gordon. But I don't think his **** smells like roses.
Eric Gordon's value is extremmmmeeeelllyyy low.
So lets give him a season to get it higher
New Orleans Pelicans-Seattle Seahawks-Atlanta Braves-Anaheim Ducks
RIP HunnyB
This fits HunnyB/FlyGirl so well- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzTiSEfM00
Contributor
So were Okafor and Ariza. Found a team for both. Never underestimate desperation.
Gordon was misdiagnosed by our training staff, which led to a greatly prolonged absence. Then, when he was finally healed, the muscles in his leg were too atrophied for him to compete. Neither of these were his fault, and they aren't a major concern moving forward. If he had torn an ACL or an Achilles and missed that much time, I'd be worried, but you have to put the missed games in context.
And yes, Gordon certainly has all the potential in the world, and since he is only 24, I don't see why anyone would want to dump him for a far inferior player on a bad contract as well. I'm of the mindset that you keep talent. Gordon has had a string of bad luck over the past few years, but he was injury free in high school, college, and his 1st year in the NBA. There's no way I'm giving up on such a young, promising talent because of a few minor injuries. Yeah, I said MINOR, because they are minor. Fact.
Says the guy with absolutely no connections on the GMs of the league
This is pure speculation on your part, but it's funny how fervently you claim it to be fact.
I actually was seriously considering putting "IMO" after that, I thought you'd get it, considering this is a forum, in which opinions are discussed. Oh well,
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote