Keeping Eric Gordon is the right decision

[Mr. West]

For me, it's simple. Is he an All Star calibre player? Maybe, certainly not yet. Never been on a winning team either.

Okay, then how injury prone is he? Extremely.

Well, how serious have the injuries been? Consistent, and knee injuries are unpredictable.

Rooting for the guy to succeed and make me eat crow, but this is how I would honestly have to answer these questions.

[PowerPel]

I do like what Curry has done not afraid to play injured.

[nolaslim213]

Rooting for the guy to succeed and make me eat crow, but this is how I would honestly have to answer these questions.

I think the biggest misconception is about his knee injury. Since it took so long, everyone thinks it was some big injury that's going to plague him his whole career, but really it took so long because there was a gross misdiagnosis, and then when they finally found out what was wrong and he was able to play again, the season was almost over. Then, during the off season, it started swelling again, and that's because the 1st surgery left some "debris" that they had to clean out (aka: a little cartilage, but certainly not the majority of the cartilage, so no biggie). By that time, the muscles in his quad were shot, so then he had to rehab them until they were back to normal. This all took a long time, but it's not a major injury by any means.

[JJackisangry]

Its crazy how much controversy one player can spark. Its not Tim Tebow esque but still...

[PowerPel]

I think the biggest misconception is about his knee injury. Since it took so long, everyone thinks it was some big injury that's going to plague him his whole career, but really it took so long because there was a gross misdiagnosis, and then when they finally found out what was wrong and he was able to play again, the season was almost over. Then, during the off season, it started swelling again, and that's because the 1st surgery left some "debris" that they had to clean out (aka: a little cartilage, but certainly not the majority of the cartilage, so no biggie). By that time, the muscles in his quad were shot, so then he had to rehab them until they were back to normal. This all took a long time, but it's not a major injury by any means.

I think it could also be the whole deal of wanting to play in PHX that left a bad taste too.

[Mr. West]

I think the biggest misconception is about his knee injury. Since it took so long, everyone thinks it was some big injury that's going to plague him his whole career, but really it took so long because there was a gross misdiagnosis, and then when they finally found out what was wrong and he was able to play again, the season was almost over. Then, during the off season, it started swelling again, and that's because the 1st surgery left some "debris" that they had to clean out (aka: a little cartilage, but certainly not the majority of the cartilage, so no biggie). By that time, the muscles in his quad were shot, so then he had to rehab them until they were back to normal. This all took a long time, but it's not a major injury by any means.

Its good that we (or you) know what went wrong. That does not make it any less serious.

[PelicanFever]

The team owns Davis' right at the very least 5 more years. Realistically 8-10. If we can't find additional talent in that time we are screwed anyways. They didn't stop making quality players after Eric Gordon. This is completely ignoring the fact that in just two years he can walk away from the franchise and there's nothing the organization can do to stop it.

but how do we get those quality players...they don't want to go small markets

[PelicanFever]

ok the point of my original post was that we should consider the difficulty in obtaining a player as good as Gordon when discussing this matter...the injury point is mute in my original argument because i said even if you think there is only a 20% chance of him staying healthy, that still likely surpasses the chances of us getting a player as good as him based on the history of the free agent market and small markets and how poor the top of this draft is

a lot of say the worst spot to be in is stuck in mediocrity, not good enough to compete and not bad enough to obtain someone that can help us compete...and that is what our future holds, no matter how good our GM is, the NBA game is not kind to small markets without an unbelievable amount of luck

[DiMaggio dunks]

If MVP voting was just based on opinion on this board, Eric Gordon would have won the last two years. His talent and ability is purely theoretical. What he's actually done for the Hornets is be a decent starting NBA shooting guard.

[NMThreeMVP]

This sums up my feelings about Gordon:

[jgman]

This sums up my feelings about Gordon:

this x100

[PelicanFever]

This sums up my feelings about Gordon:

ironically, don't you think the 49ers are happy they kept the player that Singletary is ranting about in this clip ; )

[Kurgan]

Let his stock rise and trade him to someone dumb enough to pay him that silly contract

[jgman]

I just think people overrate him, I mean his "fringe-allstar" type season he had with the clippers averaging 22 and 4, during which he only played 56 games and the clippers only won 32 games, is now almost 3 years ago and he hasn't come close to replicating it besides passing glimpses of what might be sandwiched between moments of disinterest and laziness. He looks great hitting game winners against the SUNS and MAVS, making great come-back debuts against the BOBCATS, but then he plays lazy off ball D a lot, sometimes lazy O as well, and generally doesn't impact a lot of other games, often looking disinterested, and making turn over after turn over down the stretch. As if his play wasn't frustrating enough you then have to take in the injury issues, whether it affects his durability long and short term, his playing ability, and then his potential.

To me, the guy has proven he is nothing more than a pretty good player in the league, and "potential" is only worth so much. These next two years will tell what he really is, and he'll be with us for at least one of them, because his value has been on quite a downward spiral and his average play as it is would be worth more than any of the picks or players we'd get for him straight up.

[GESWhoseBack]

ironically, don't you think the 49ers are happy they kept the player that Singletary is ranting about in this clip ; )

That's what I was thinking. Amazing what winning will do for a player's attitude or perceived attitude.

[dcoop]

I saw a Hoopsworld reporter say they've never seen anyone with more ice on there body after games than EG, also compared EG's situation to Brandon Roy's. It's not that he doesn't want to play, I'm sure he wants to play, he's actually been injured and this should cause the most concern. It's honestly time to cut ties before its too late, at this point anything in return is good.

[Big-O]

Keep him, what value will he bring in return currently? Who is out there that is worth trading for and is available?

[ItsPaulyP]

Question for those in favor of just giving this guy up for crap, who's gonna play SG in your scenario? Honestly, cause if we ship this guy for peanuts (which IS his current value) then who are we going to trot out there on opening night? Rivers? Some journeymen or young player? Might as well chalk up another 20-win season now and decreased stability for Monty's job.

[durun]

Thank you NOLA Slim, you are the first person that has gotten it right. EG was misdiagnosed by the team's medical staff mutiple times including the bruise knee situtation before the February 2012 scope. During training camp the team recommended rest and according to the local newspaper considered microfacture surgery as an option. It was a knee specialist in Chicago that diagnosed his quad weakness. It was Gordon's QUAD muscles that caused him to missed half the season not his knee. The professional reporting community here continue to broadcast this myth about his knee. Given the misdiagnoses that could have cost him his career, why should he be happy?


Gordon is an easy target because he does not smile including at the newsconference when introduced to the city. Guess the first impression is lasting. Maybe the guy is quiet and somewhat shy. I more concern with players that are happy to be on a losing team.

Gordon wants to win. He is the Pelican's best overall player. AD will probably be better but it will take another year. It amazes me the number of people that believe Ryan Anderson is a better player than EG. Just look how other teams game plan againist the Hornets. Gordon is doubled. He is the only player that can create his own shot.

One last thing, Rivers had his surgery in NYC and Smith's shoulder opeation was performed in LA. Tells you something.

[Big-O]

Thank you NOLA Slim, you are the first person that has gotten it right. EG was misdiagnosed by the team's medical staff mutiple times including the bruise knee situtation before the February 2012 scope. During training camp the team recommended rest and according to the local newspaper considered microfacture surgery as an option. It was a knee specialist in Chicago that diagnosed his quad weakness. It was Gordon's QUAD muscles that caused him to missed half the season not his knee. The professional reporting community here continue to broadcast this myth about his knee. Given the misdiagnoses that could have cost him his career, why should he be happy?


Gordon is an easy target because he does not smile including at the newsconference when introduced to the city. Guess the first impression is lasting. Maybe the guy is quiet and somewhat shy. I more concern with players that are happy to be on a losing team.

Gordon wants to win. He is the Pelican's best overall player. AD will probably be better but it will take another year. It amazes me the number of people that believe Ryan Anderson is a better player than EG. Just look how other teams game plan againist the Hornets. Gordon is doubled. He is the only player that can create his own shot.

One last thing, Rivers had his surgery in NYC and Smith's shoulder opeation was performed in LA. Tells you something.

Well put

[da ThRONe]

Thank you NOLA Slim, you are the first person that has gotten it right. EG was misdiagnosed by the team's medical staff mutiple times including the bruise knee situtation before the February 2012 scope. During training camp the team recommended rest and according to the local newspaper considered microfacture surgery as an option. It was a knee specialist in Chicago that diagnosed his quad weakness. It was Gordon's QUAD muscles that caused him to missed half the season not his knee. The professional reporting community here continue to broadcast this myth about his knee. Given the misdiagnoses that could have cost him his career, why should he be happy?

Why he continues to miss significant time is irrelevant. The fact that he continues to miss time every season is what's important.

Gordon is an easy target because he does not smile including at the newsconference when introduced to the city. Guess the first impression is lasting. Maybe the guy is quiet and somewhat shy. I more concern with players that are happy to be on a losing team.

He's an easy target because he was the one running off at the mouth about him nothing wanting to be here. Personally I could careless about his personality. However it can't be ignored that his feeling will factor into where he plays ball after the 2014-15 season.

Gordon wants to win. He is the Pelican's best overall player. AD will probably be better but it will take another year. It amazes me the number of people that believe Ryan Anderson is a better player than EG. Just look how other teams game plan againist the Hornets. Gordon is doubled. He is the only player that can create his own shot.

It's hard to say what Gordon wants or where he feels he has the best opportunity to achieve those goals. Like you mention EJ isn't an open person.

[RaisingTheBar]

ironically, don't you think the 49ers are happy they kept the player that Singletary is ranting about in this clip ; )

That's what I was thinking. Amazing what winning will do for a player's attitude or perceived attitude.

Harbough did not get to SF until 2011. Davis already started producing at an elite level 2 years before Jim's hire, under the coaching of Singletary. So something finally clicked, but it wasn't the new coach.

[Mr. West]

Question for those in favor of just giving this guy up for crap, who's gonna play SG in your scenario? Honestly, cause if we ship this guy for peanuts (which IS his current value) then who are we going to trot out there on opening night? Rivers? Some journeymen or young player? Might as well chalk up another 20-win season now and decreased stability for Monty's job.

Whoever we would trot out should he miss the first half of the season.

[BallSoHard]

Thank you NOLA Slim, you are the first person that has gotten it right. EG was misdiagnosed by the team's medical staff mutiple times including the bruise knee situtation before the February 2012 scope. During training camp the team recommended rest and according to the local newspaper considered microfacture surgery as an option. It was a knee specialist in Chicago that diagnosed his quad weakness. It was Gordon's QUAD muscles that caused him to missed half the season not his knee. The professional reporting community here continue to broadcast this myth about his knee. Given the misdiagnoses that could have cost him his career, why should he be happy?

I'm sorry, but if you think quad weakness is the reason he missed HALF a season then I don't know what to say. First off, he had the surgery and I'm just going to assume he rehabbed it. A huge part of rehabbing a knee is building quad strength even more than it was before to help protect the knee. Everyone knows this, if his docs let him have knee surgery and did not PT him after (which i highly doubt) then I'll give his injury history a pass. From the naked eye, It really seems like some of this falls on Gordon who it seems doesn't take care of his body properly. Let's say his leg was atrophied (reported like 1/2 the size of this other quad); why would he play on it? This is all assumption because all i know is what I've read and been told; but I have a hard time believing he went from knee surgery to his knee having a lot atrophy and playing? Just seems extremely fishy. I am also not a medical professional; I worked in a health club which had PT for about 5 years in college so i've seen and heard a lot of information.

[PowerPel]

I think too many people are assuming Gordon will be the next Curry.