CP3 and Clippers

[Kurgan]

Since we are all speaking hypothetical, there is still as much possibility that CP3 comes back to Nola as he does staying with the Clippers if they lose in the first round:

I know I’m dreaming but if the Pel’s don’t pick up the option on both Lopez and Thomas, the combined salaries for the rest of the team in 2013/14 is: 36.53M

Now if we sign both Howard and CP3 for 15M each (obviously they agree to take a significant pay cut to win a Championship)

The total salaries to begin the season would be: 66.53M
If you include the salary of the 2013 (5th pick) = 2.9M

Total for team: 69.43M

Luxury tax as of 2012/13 – 70M

CP3/Vasquez/Roberts
Gordon/Rivers/FA
2013 Pick/FA/Miller
Davis/Anderson
Howard/Smith

Championship!!!!

After the 2013/14 season we would have a problem with cap space, but 1 championship would do me 

Why the hell howard and paul would sign for the pelicans?

[England_Hornet]

Why the hell howard and paul would sign for the pelicans?

Well look at that starting lineup... that's why!

[DiMaggio dunks]

Why would anyone advocate signing Dwight Howard? He's proven over the last two years he's an awful headcase, why bring that to NOLA? He admitted the other day he's still not healed from the back surgery, at least that's his excuse for playing so poorly this past year.

[Kurgan]

Well look at that starting lineup... that's why!

You realize that we were like 5th worst in the entire nba? And now with paul and howard we would automatically have serious, almost certain chances at the title in an hypotethical next year? Because i think only certainty of playoffs and a reasonable probability of going all the way could lure BOTH here. The lakers with bryant, nash, artest, gasol and whoever else, just barely made it to the playoffs, the clippers are going to be kicked out, and if not in the 1st round then in a short time anyway. But paul - whoever - whoever - davis - howard + rhyno from the bench = championship? Please. I'm not sure it'd work on nba 2k, much less in real basketball.

[ml wave]

You realize that we were like 5th worst in the entire nba? And now with paul and howard we would automatically have serious, almost certain chances at the title in an hypotethical next year? Because i think only certainty of playoffs and a reasonable probability of going all the way could lure BOTH here. The lakers with bryant, nash, artest, gasol and whoever else, just barely made it to the playoffs, the clippers are going to be kicked out, and if not in the 1st round then in a short time anyway. But paul - whoever - whoever - davis - howard + rhyno from the bench = championship? Please. I'm not sure it'd work on nba 2k, much less in real basketball.

Not to mention we wouldn't have near the cap space to sign both to contracts starting at $15M.

[BP225]

Not to mention we wouldn't have near the cap space to sign both to contracts starting at $15M.

No one in the running but Atlanta has the cap space to sign both and Atlanta might want to trade Horford to get Dwight if Dwight would rather play with BFF Josh Smith than Horford. The Rockets would probably trade Lin and Asik, the Mavericks would trade Marion and Carter (which is why they aren't really in the running) and the Pelicans would build a package around either Gordon or Anderson if all the stars aligned and Dwight and CP3 would rather play with a bunch of kids than playoff ready All Star level talents.

[Eman5805]

You realize that we were like 5th worst in the entire nba? And now with paul and howard we would automatically have serious, almost certain chances at the title in an hypotethical next year? Because i think only certainty of playoffs and a reasonable probability of going all the way could lure BOTH here. The lakers with bryant, nash, artest, gasol and whoever else, just barely made it to the playoffs, the clippers are going to be kicked out, and if not in the 1st round then in a short time anyway. But paul - whoever - whoever - davis - howard + rhyno from the bench = championship? Please. I'm not sure it'd work on nba 2k, much less in real basketball.

Well, you're wrong all the same. The Lakers barely made the playoffs because Nash wasn't the floor general they expected to get, coupled with total ineptitude on defense thanks to Mike D'Antoni not knowing what defense even is. Monty doesn't have that problem.

You add Chris Paul and Howard to our team somehow, through the super evil villainy of Dell Demps and yes, we'd be a contender.

Chris Paul knows how to get the ball to playmakers and knows how to take games over when he feels like it.

That said, I find the notion sickening because I do not like Howard at all. I didn't always, but now? Want nothing to do with him. I'm the same way with Rondo or Westbrook. Even though they're all great players. Can't stand them as player personalities.

[BallSoHard]

Well, you're wrong all the same. The Lakers barely made the playoffs because Nash wasn't the floor general they expected to get, coupled with total ineptitude on defense thanks to Mike D'Antoni not knowing what defense even is.

Wrong about the Lakers. 171 Games missed total between their starters and rotational players along with a mid-season coaching change is why they barely made the playoffs.

Monty doesn't have that problem.

Also about Monty not having that problem????? Third to worst Defensive Efficiency ahead of Charlotte and Sacramento and you're going to vouch for his defensive prowess? You've got more faith than I do. Sure you can blame it on the players, but if he really was such a "defensive guru" he would have done better than that. (This is coming from someone who's not running at Monty with a Pitchfork and torch).

You add Chris Paul and Howard to our team somehow, through the super evil villainy of Dell Demps and yes, we'd be a contender.

Chris Paul knows how to get the ball to playmakers and knows how to take games over when he feels like it.

That said, I find the notion sickening because I do not like Howard at all. I didn't always, but now? Want nothing to do with him. I'm the same way with Rondo or Westbrook. Even though they're all great players. Can't stand them as player personalities.

With all of that said above I still agree that CP and Dwight make a championship contender.

[Eman5805]

Sure you can blame it on the players

Good. Then I will.

[BallSoHard]

Good. Then I will.

[Eman5805]

Huh. Gonna have to explain the joke there.

Anywho. You can't get water from a stone. Same way you can't get Vasquez to keep anyone out of the lane or to rotate to his man in a timely manner. But as bad as Vasquez is, Brian Roberts is worse. Also, Aminu just isn't even nearly the defender he should be at the size and athleticism. I'm ready for something different.

Hell, I'd say our best perimeter defender was Austin Rivers. Can't really count Gordon though he's really good at poking balls loose.

[BallSoHard]

Huh. Gonna have to explain the joke there.

Anywho. You can't get water from a stone. Same way you can't get Vasquez to keep anyone out of the lane or to rotate to his man in a timely manner. But as bad as Vasquez is, Brian Roberts is worse. Also, Aminu just isn't even nearly the defender he should be at the size and athleticism. I'm ready for something different.

Hell, I'd say our best perimeter defender was Austin Rivers. Can't really count Gordon though he's really good at poking balls loose.

I agree. I just think some of the blame needs to fall on Monty as well. He did a fantastic job the first year. I'll give credit where it's due.

[Inner_GI]

I agree. I just think some of the blame needs to fall on Monty as well. He did a fantastic job the first year. I'll give credit where it's due.

We also had Ariza and Okafor who are above average defensively, and Jack starting PG.

Aminu looked good defensively against backups, but he's was a major letdown this season.

[da ThRONe]

Any team with Paul and Howard next year are title contenders both are that good. With that said I see no possible scenario they both come here. Howard could easily be here if he wanted to pair with Paul. If they pair up it's going to be in a market like Dallas maybe even Atlanta.

[Eman5805]

Which pisses me off to no end on the pure principle alone. Winning ain't enough. Gotta win where you can get more exposure...

[nosfan1019]

Which pisses me off to no end on the pure principle alone. Winning ain't enough. Gotta win where you can get more exposure...

Yeah obviously D12 and CP3 in NOLA is probably a 0.1% possibly for this fact alone. We have the cap figures to do it. You would have to probably ship Gordon but its definitely possible and a guy can dream

[da ThRONe]

Which pisses me off to no end on the pure principle alone. Winning ain't enough. Gotta win where you can get more exposure...

Can't blame the players it's the league that reward market size. The NBA TV situation is really bad when you look how at the NFL it's all about being consumed by viewers at home, and most importantly ever team gets adequate air time.

[NOLa.]

Still not a lot to do in a offseason except whether or not Dwight + Paul would mean contender and if the Lakers were really any good.

*Sigh*

[kmbuzz]

The media needs to jump on CP3 just like they do Carmelo. CP3 had better playoff runs in NO. Last year it takes 7 games for the Clippers to get past Memphis then get swept in 4 games by SA. At least here in NO, the hornets got to game 7 in Round 2. Stay in LA CP3.

[da ThRONe]

The media needs to jump on CP3 just like they do Carmelo. CP3 had better playoff runs in NO. Last year it takes 7 games for the Clippers to get past Memphis then get swept in 4 games by SA. At least here in NO, the hornets got to game 7 in Round 2. Stay in LA CP3.

I never thought I'd see the day that I think we are better off without Paul in his prime. Not that he's responsible for the Clippers losing, but I don't think we could put together a better team than the Clips in time to take advantage of CP's prime years left.

[Emilio]

Yeah, how has Paul avoided criticism regarding his bad playoff record? He has won only two series in his career. Don't we expect more from franchise players?

[nolaslim213]

I never thought I'd see the day that I think we are better off without Paul in his prime. Not that he's responsible for the Clippers losing, but I don't think we could put together a better team than the Clips in time to take advantage of CP's prime years left.

How can you honestly say that we don't have a better supporting cast than the Clippers?

Davis and Griffin were nearly a wash last season in terms of advanced metrics, and Davis was only a 19 year old rookie who needs to put on weight.

Gordon >>>>>>>> Eric Bledsoe

Anderson >>>>>>> Lamar Odom

Lopez >>>> DeAndre Jordan

Jason Smith >>>> Caron Butler

Role players like Rivers (6th man), Vasquez (trade bait), Roberts (spacer), and Miller (spacer). I even think we could get a guy like Matt Barnes to follow CP over to our team at the vet minimum. He'd give us a nice defensive veteran presence, and he can space the floor as well.

[nolaslim213]

Yeah, how has Paul avoided criticism regarding his bad playoff record? He has won only two series in his career. Don't we expect more from franchise players?

Sure, but both times he has always been surrounded by crap. Him next to guys like Davis, Gordon, and Anderson... That's a really scary thought.

[Kumar]

Bill Simmons tweeted he heard CP3 might not come back to LA.
https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/stat...96603188998144

Also hearing there's a legit chance CP3 doesn't sign there now. It's wide-open. They'd have to hire a coach he likes, and even then...

[FlyGirl]

He probably didn't hear anything. It's just what a lot of people will be thinking after a disappointing first round loss, especially since he didn't sign that 3 year extension.