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    Burke

    Question for those who watch lots of college hoops. How does Trey Burke compare athletically to Stephen Curry? I know Curry is taller and can shoot the hell out of three pointers but is this a good comparison? Is Steph Curry superior athletically to Trey Burke?

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    Nope. Burke is easily more athletic. What makes Curry so successful is his deadly jumpshot that draw defenses in and extremely crafty moves to get into the paint and score.

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    id say burke is more athletic, bth are crafty, curry a better shooter

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    Curry is basically a better shooter, and he is taller. Other than that, Burke has the edge in nearly every category. I expect him to thrive in the league.

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    agree i think burke will be a very good PG, he can shoot, pass, is crafty, smart and clutch while being good enough defensively.

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    Of the 10 teams competing for a top 10 pick which teams do people think would take a PG (Smart or Burke)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    Of the 10 teams competing for a top 10 pick which teams do people think would take a PG (Smart or Burke)?

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    New Orleans, Sacramento, Orlando, and Detroit for sure.

    Maybe Charlotte (with Walker), Minnesota (with Rubio), or Phoenix (with Dragic) takes Smart and pegs him at the 2, given his combo guard skillset.

    I don't see Cleveland, Toronto, or Washington showing much interest in either player.

    Of course, this is all based on the assumption that these teams draft for need over BPA, not a strategy many GMs advocate openly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PelsFan2313 View Post
    New Orleans, Sacramento, Orlando, and Detroit for sure.

    Maybe Charlotte (with Walker) or Phoenix (with Dragic) takes Smart and pegs him at the 2, given his combo guard skillset.

    I don't see Cleveland, Toronto, Minnesota, or Washington showing any interest in either.

    Of course, this is all based on the assumption that these teams draft for need over BPA, not a strategy many GMs advocate openly.
    Thanks.

    Toronto won't because OKC wont draft a PG.
    Do you think SAC will draft Burke at PG with I. Thomas and Jimmer? I know they are combo guards but so is Smart.

    I agree though we need to worry about Orlando and Detroit taking Burke before us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    Thanks.

    Toronto won't because OKC wont draft a PG.
    Do you think SAC will draft Burke at PG with I. Thomas and Jimmer? I know they are combo guards but so is Smart.

    I agree though we need to worry about Orlando and Detroit taking Burke before us.
    I think the kings go with a small forward, they need one in the worst way and i could see them taking porter, same with the pistons but if they decide to put knight at SG they could go PG, the team im worried about taking burke is orlando but they could take a PF like zeller or bennett, anyway if one of them did take burke that would leave Smart

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    Thanks.

    Toronto won't because OKC wont draft a PG.
    Do you think SAC will draft Burke at PG with I. Thomas and Jimmer? I know they are combo guards but so is Smart.

    I agree though we need to worry about Orlando and Detroit taking Burke before us.
    I think Sacramento would for sure, especially in the aftermath of the failed Evans experiment. Additionally, rumor has it that they were extremely high on Lilliard, but took Robinson given their bigger vacany at the 4. I promise you they won't make the same mistake again if Smart is still on the board.

    I see Burke going anywhere from 7-10 atm, unless he absolutely kills it at the combine and pre-draft workouts.

    And I forgot that OKC has Toronto's pick. Lord, have mercy.

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    If the draft ended today I think it would go something like this

    bobcats - noel - need size badly in their front court
    magic - smart - need a playmaker and pg
    cavs - porter - need a do it all SF with kyrie and waiters doing the scoring
    suns - mclemore - they are dying for a SG
    pistons - oladipo - if they keep knight at PG oladipo would be a good fit, they can get enough scoring from monroe and knight
    pelicans - shabazz - if we keep rivers at PG or keep GV, or sign jennings or teague we still need a scorer at the 3 which is what bazz is.
    Twolves - Alex len - with losing pek they need a C
    Kings - trey burke - i would have said zeller but they have patrick patterson, GR3 could be another option for SF
    thunder from raptors - zeller - they have ibaka but an offensive PF who can play the 4 or 5 would help inside scoring which they need bad
    philly - glen robinson III - get a SF and move turner back to SG where he can handle the ball more

    this is basically how i see the draft going, i know bazz is only 6"6 but he has a 7ft wingspan and in a league getting smaller and playing small ball he would be fine and i love his will to win, he has a nice mix of scoring and strength like a combo of james harden and paul pierce. i think he will be a 20ppg-4.5rpg type of player
    Last edited by HornetGuru; 04-04-2013 at 01:34 AM.

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    Detroit would probaby take Shabazz in that situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    If the draft ended today I think it would go something like this

    bobcats - noel - need size badly in their front court
    magic - smart - need a playmaker and pg
    cavs - porter - need a do it all SF with kyrie and waiters doing the scoring
    suns - mclemore - they are dying for a SG
    pistons - oladipo - if they keep knight at PG oladipo would be a good fit, they can get enough scoring from monroe and knight
    pelicans - shabazz - if we keep rivers at PG or keep GV, or sign jennings or teague we still need a scorer at the 3 which is what bazz is.
    Twolves - Alex len - with losing pek they need a C
    Kings - trey burke - i would have said zeller but they have patrick patterson, GR3 could be another option for SF
    thunder from raptors - zeller - they have ibaka but an offensive PF who can play the 4 or 5 would help inside scoring which they need bad
    philly - glen robinson III - get a SF and move turner back to SG where he can handle the ball more

    this is basically how i see the draft going, i know bazz is only 6"6 but he has a 7ft wingspan and in a league getting smaller and playing small ball he would be fine and i love his will to win, he has a nice mix of scoring and strength like a combo of james harden and paul pierce. i think he will be a 20ppg-4.5rpg type of player
    Nice run down.

    To be honest I would be happy with Noel, Smart, Porter, McLemore, Oladipo, Bazz or Burke.
    So as long as we dont finish higher than 7 worst, we should be ok.

    My wishlist goes: McLemore, Burke, Smart, Porter, Bazz, Oladipo, Noel, GR3 and then Len.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    If the draft ended today I think it would go something like this

    bobcats - noel - need size badly in their front court
    magic - smart - need a playmaker and pg
    cavs - porter - need a do it all SF with kyrie and waiters doing the scoring
    suns - mclemore - they are dying for a SG
    pistons - oladipo - if they keep knight at PG oladipo would be a good fit, they can get enough scoring from monroe and knight
    pelicans - shabazz - if we keep rivers at PG or keep GV, or sign jennings or teague we still need a scorer at the 3 which is what bazz is.
    Twolves - Alex len - with losing pek they need a C
    Kings - trey burke - i would have said zeller but they have patrick patterson, GR3 could be another option for SF
    thunder from raptors - zeller - they have ibaka but an offensive PF who can play the 4 or 5 would help inside scoring which they need bad
    philly - glen robinson III - get a SF and move turner back to SG where he can handle the ball more

    this is basically how i see the draft going, i know bazz is only 6"6 but he has a 7ft wingspan and in a league getting smaller and playing small ball he would be fine and i love his will to win, he has a nice mix of scoring and strength like a combo of james harden and paul pierce. i think he will be a 20ppg-4.5rpg type of player
    i just figured they would take oladipo because they have scoring in knight monroe and singler but the only defender they have really is drummond, thought oladipo made more sense.

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    reason i dont see us going burke, even though i think he will be a top 3 player from this draft is that we have too many PG options in GV, Rivers or all the starting caliber PG's in free agency like jennings and teague, but there are no starting caliber SF's in free agency, which is why i think we go bazz or porter, possibly even gr3, he can slash, shoot, rebound and defend, he's a little bit of iggy and paul george, has a jumper but not quite as good as george's, is athletic but not quite as much as iggy
    bazz will give u offense and some D
    gr3 will give u defense and some O
    porter will give u a little of both and rebound better, this is a good year to have a top 6 pick and be in need of a SF, hopefully we can luck out again.
    Last edited by HornetGuru; 04-04-2013 at 02:00 AM.

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    In a pregame interview, Billy Donovan said Burke was a lot like Kyrie Irving. Is he comparable to Irving? I personally do not think the Pelicans go PG in the draft because they want Rivers to assume that role. But if Burke is comparable to Irving and they have a chance at a future elite PG...then that might chnage things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArronRx View Post
    In a pregame interview, Billy Donovan said Burke was a lot like Kyrie Irving. Is he comparable to Irving? I personally do not think the Pelicans go PG in the draft because they want Rivers to assume that role. But if Burke is comparable to Irving and they have a chance at a future elite PG...then that might chnage things.
    That's a terrible comparison.

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    I wouldnt call it a terrible comparison, neither are great athletes, can shoot and be crafty around the rim, but i think irving is more crafty and burke a better passer.

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    How does a lineup of:
    jennings or teague/rivers
    gordon/henderson
    bazz or porter/miller
    ad/ryno
    hickson/smith
    sound?
    Last edited by HornetGuru; 04-04-2013 at 02:35 AM.

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    I just looked it up. The context of the statement makes a lot more sense. He comparison was made in the way he feels you have to defend them. Basically said you have to defend them for all 40 minutes rather than say 25 minutes. I find the statement kind of strange as Florida has never played Irving.

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    what would it take to get larry sanders? he has been having a monster month racking up games of 24-15 and stuff like that, with jennings leaving for sure and ellis being their scorer maybe they would take GV to have a true PG and Lopez to replace sanders especially since they have another long athletic shot blocker in henson and lopez could give them some offense? I guess the question is would they rather have just larry sanders or GV and lopez? Maybe throw in our 2014 2nd rounder.

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    Also curious if the Pacers said right now they would give us paul george for gordon and ryan anderson would u do it?

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    also like to find a way to trade for alec burks, i love his size, ball handling, shooting and scoring ability

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    that gianis kid from greece also had a great game tonight, 19 points with 3 three pointers and 9 rebounds, he's only 18 and is 6"9 with a 7"3 wingspan, durantchullaaaaaa.

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    What's the most important thing you want to see from Wolters against Michigan?

    If he can stay in front of Trey Burke. Nate's got a lot of attention over the past couple of years, and deservedly so. He's a really nice player. But the big question is can he defend elite athletes? That's something that's a big, big deal at our level, particularly at the point guard position, because if you can't at least slow your guy down it puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the rest of the defense. So it's really important that he shows he can stay in front of Trey. That's what everybody wants to see. Can he guard Trey Burke?
    Interesting comment from a NBA GM.

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