Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

[Pelicans78]

Dude not sure what part your missing. Check my first post where I said he is much better rebounder. Then get back to me.

And compare their defensive rating as well and see who is better. Your raw numbers don't tell the whole story.

[kclaboy504]

But pg isn't the issue for our losses. Poor team defense, poor coaching, and bad times for injuries are.

Poor team defense has been caused by our starting pg not being able to keep his man in front him. Do u deny that also??

[kclaboy504]

And compare their defensive rating as well and see who is better. Your raw numbers don't tell the whole story.

Dude I already said he was better defensively and rebounding. Your beating a dead horse.

[Pelicans78]

Idc what u put out there dude. Mathews is not the better player. Sorry just ain't. I already said he's had a bad season. Even with his bad season he is still better than Gordon. Basic stats,advanced stats.they are all just stats either way u slice it. Do u wanna only use the stats that best fit your side of the argument??

No. But basic stats don't tell the whole story. Gordon averages more points per game because he shoots way more. So your stats are clearly misleading. You may fool other people, but you're not fooling me. Matthews has performed better this season because Gordon has clearly sucked ***.

[Pelicans78]

Dude I already said he was better defensively and rebounding. Your beating a dead horse.

So he's better defensively and rebounding and just as good offensively if not better yet he's only slightly better. Makes sense to me.

[kclaboy504]

No. But basic stats don't tell the whole story. Gordon averages more points per game because he shoots way more. So your stats are clearly misleading. You may fool other people, but you're not fooling me. Matthews has performed better this season because Gordon has clearly sucked ***.

So can u please show me where I said Gordon has had a good season?? Don't worry I'll wait. My statement was Gordon is better than Mathews. Your getting off topic now.

[kclaboy504]

So he's better defensively and rebounding and just as good offensively if not better yet he's only slightly better. Makes sense to me.

Dude Hickson makes 4m a year for a reason ok?? You a nba gm?? Yea didn't think so

[kclaboy504]

No. But basic stats don't tell the whole story. Gordon averages more points per game because he shoots way more. So your stats are clearly misleading. You may fool other people, but you're not fooling me. Matthews has performed better this season because Gordon has clearly sucked ***.

So please tell me about this awesome season Mathews has had.

[Pelicans78]

Poor team defense has been caused by our starting pg not being able to keep his man in front him. Do u deny that also??

I agree with you here. Vasquez sucks to be honest. He's slow dribbling the ball, he's slow passing the ball, and he's slow defending his man. He's a big part of the problem. Replacing him will be a big step. Same with Aminu. Lopez has been fine overall as a starter.

[Pelicans78]

Dude Hickson makes 4m a year for a reason ok?? You a nba gm?? Yea didn't think so

And Lopez makes only 5. Basically Portland got him with great value. But that's another poor argument on your part.

[Pelicans78]

So please tell me about this awesome season Mathews has had.

I didn't say he was awesome. Just a better season than Gordon which isn't saying much since Gordon has been terrible.

[kclaboy504]

I agree with you here. Vasquez sucks to be honest. He's slow dribbling the ball, he's slow passing the ball, and he's slow defending his man. He's a big part of the problem. Replacing him will be a big step. Same with Aminu. Lopez has been fine overall as a starter.

Would u not call Lopez an avg center?? I think he is. What is Hickson?? He def is not a top guy in this league. So yes he is slightly better than Lopez. Your trying to make it seem this guy is Dwight Howard compared to Lopez. He is slightly better than lopez. It's not a knock on him but that's what he is.

[kclaboy504]

I didn't say he was awesome. Just a better season than Gordon which isn't saying much since Gordon has been terrible.

....exactly my point and what I've said several times.

[Pelicans78]

Would u not call Lopez an avg center?? I think he is. What is Hickson?? He def is not a top guy in this league. So yes he is slightly better than Lopez. Your trying to make it seem this guy is Dwight Howard compared to Lopez. He is slightly better than lopez. It's not a knock on him but that's what he is.

Lopez is probably average and Hickson is a good center.

[kclaboy504]

And Lopez makes only 5. Basically Portland got him with great value. But that's another poor argument on your part.

No it's not. So did he take some kind of hometown discount or something?? Am I missing something? He doesn't get paid like a top center cause he isn't one. That's all I'm saying. Neither is Lopez. They are both in that middle tier of guys. Neither one being in the upper echelon. Sheesh

[Pelicans78]

....exactly my point and what I've said several times.

No, you said Gordon was having a better season.

[kclaboy504]

Lopez is probably average and Hickson is a good center.

So that would make him slightly better man!!! My goodness lol

[kclaboy504]

No, you said Gordon was having a better season.

When I said that's what I've said I meant Gordon having a horrible season. Yes I did say he has had a bad season.

[Pelicans78]

So that would make him slightly better man!!! My goodness lol

No. Above average is slightly better.

[Pelicans78]

No it's not. So did he take some kind of hometown discount or something?? Am I missing something? He doesn't get paid like a top center cause he isn't one. That's all I'm saying. Neither is Lopez. They are both in that middle tier of guys. Neither one being in the upper echelon. Sheesh

No. He came off a season where he was waived by the Kings and signed with Portland late in the season so he didn't have a lot of leverage. Guarantee you he will get much more than 4 million this offseason and more than Lopez.

[kclaboy504]

No, you said Gordon was having a better season.

Gordon's having a bad season also by his standards and what we expect from him. This is a dead subject anyways cause it was a simp,e as who was the better player not who had a better season. Gordon is the better player. Bottom line. Not really a good argument to claim Mathews having a better season on this down year Gordon is having to deal with. I mean seriously?? Gordon Was able to get a max contract for a reason. Mathews will NEVER be up for one. For one reason. Gordon is better player.

[Pelicans78]

When I said that's what I've said I meant Gordon having a horrible season. Yes I did say he has had a bad season.

But you kept saying Gordon was better than Matthews this season which is not the case.

[kclaboy504]

No. He came off a season where he was waived by the Kings and signed with Portland late in the season so he didn't have a lot of leverage. Guarantee you he will get much more than 4 million this offseason and more than Lopez.

I bet he will to. I bet he don't get paid as a top center tho. I bet he gets paid in that middle tier of guys. Like is said he was this whole time. Not sure what we are arguing back n forth about. Seriously. You bored?? I am

[kclaboy504]

But you kept saying Gordon was better than Matthews this season which is not the case.

No no u don't!!! Lol..I said Gordon is the better player than Mathews and that's when u chimed in and claimed otherwise. Then the this season argument started. I just threw out their ppg rpg apg stats for this year. Simply showing that even on a down year with him cause of all he's going thru with injury n all that his numbers are still up to par with Mathews that's all.

[kclaboy504]

No. Above average is slightly better.

ok u win!! If u think Hickson is head n shoulders above n better than Lopez that's your opinion.