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Thread: Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

  1. #1451
    I don't see you guys talking more about that FGCU game. It owned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MWGx0x25yo

    Why can't more college basketball be this entertaining? **** Bo Ryan.

  2. #1452
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    Oladipo and Gordon can play together in the same backcourt. The only thing is Gordon would have to bring the ball up, but in this day & age, I'm not sure that's a big deal.

    Oladipo would allow Gordon to guard the lesser of the guards and thus, save Gordon's legs for offense.

    The problem IMO is that offensively, Gordon would be the only guy in the backcourt with legit scoring skills either with the ball or off the ball. And Oladipo just scares the hell outta me on the NBA level. We're talking about a guy whose biggest strength is the fact that he's athletic and he works hard defensively. At the NBA level, I'm not sure he's gonna guard the elite scorers any better than Rivers + everyone is athletic at the NBA level. So where is he gonna set himself apart? The other thing is that I'm not sure he's 6'5 (just what my eyes tell me, I have no link). If he is 6'5, 5'6 of it is his legs (that's an exaggeration before anyone replies with 'his upper body is not 11 inches tall you idiot')

  3. #1453
    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime View Post
    Oladipo and Gordon can play together in the same backcourt. The only thing is Gordon would have to bring the ball up, but in this day & age, I'm not sure that's a big deal.

    Oladipo would allow Gordon to guard the lesser of the guards and thus, save Gordon's legs for offense.

    The problem IMO is that offensively, Gordon would be the only guy in the backcourt with legit scoring skills either with the ball or off the ball. And Oladipo just scares the hell outta me on the NBA level. We're talking about a guy whose biggest strength is the fact that he's athletic and he works hard defensively. At the NBA level, I'm not sure he's gonna guard the elite scorers any better than Rivers + everyone is athletic at the NBA level. So where is he gonna set himself apart? The other thing is that I'm not sure he's 6'5 (just what my eyes tell me, I have no link). If he is 6'5, 5'6 of it is his legs (that's an exaggeration before anywhere replies with 'his upper body is not 11 inches tall you idiot')
    I feel like you stated an argument that they could play together, then just backed up the counter argument in the body of that post .

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  4. #1454
    Thing I think everyone ignores with regards to drafting a 2 like Oladipo or Benny Mac is this. Gordon will only play about 35 minutes a game, our current SF crop is pretty week, but if we find one worthy of 35 minutes it means for 13 minutes a game we can play some small ball with EG and Oladipo/Mc on the wings, cos frankly a 2nd unit 3 won't usually be able to dominate a decent 2. A Harden-like role from when he was with the Thunder.

    96 minutes between the 2/3 spot can easily be shared by A 2 guard set and 1 legit SF with minutes varying on matchups, but that's still 32 minutes a game available per player. Wether Monty can work the rotations properly is the only issue.

    Also as said many times before there are many serviceable 3's available this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime View Post
    Oladipo and Gordon can play together in the same backcourt. The only thing is Gordon would have to bring the ball up, but in this day & age, I'm not sure that's a big deal.

    Oladipo would allow Gordon to guard the lesser of the guards and thus, save Gordon's legs for offense.

    The problem IMO is that offensively, Gordon would be the only guy in the backcourt with legit scoring skills either with the ball or off the ball. And Oladipo just scares the hell outta me on the NBA level. We're talking about a guy whose biggest strength is the fact that he's athletic and he works hard defensively. At the NBA level, I'm not sure he's gonna guard the elite scorers any better than Rivers + everyone is athletic at the NBA level. So where is he gonna set himself apart? The other thing is that I'm not sure he's 6'5 (just what my eyes tell me, I have no link). If he is 6'5, 5'6 of it is his legs (that's an exaggeration before anyone replies with 'his upper body is not 11 inches tall you idiot')

  5. #1455
    I do also worry about Oladipos ability to impact an NBA game though. Prefer Mc and Bazz atm (bazz could be a good enough defender and rebounds pretty well too and gives us a player willing to go left)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
    I feel like you stated an argument that they could play together, then just backed up the counter argument in the body of that post .
    Usually when I'm deciding on whether or not to invest in a stock, I make an argument for why the stock is undervalued. Then I make an argument for why it's overvalued. What I'm saying is: I confused basketball with my stocks there for a second.

  7. #1457
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    U see UNO I can go back in posts just to expose your Vasquez name dropping habits buddy. Here is the very first post on here today that his name was brought up. What a friggin coincidence that it's quoted from mr UNO GRACIAS HIMSELF!!!! NOT A SHOCKER?...so please tell me how I brought his name up first in here today?? I'm done now back to topic. Yo won't take me off topic anymore today.
    You and reading comprehension must have some kind of game of shadows thing going on.
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  8. #1458
    Bazz def. is about as solid as it can be for a guy who snowbirds on def. dude was screaming during their first round loss "Defense?! Ain't nobody got time to Dat!"

    He could play defense, and be ok at it, but the greats in this league never approached defense like a leper like Bazz does.

  9. #1459
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Bazz def. is about as solid as it can be for a guy who snowbirds on def. dude was screaming during their first round loss "Defense?! Ain't nobody got time to Dat!"

    He could play defense, and be ok at it, but the greats in this league never approached defense like a leper like Bazz does.
    That's where i think you're misconveying other's points. No one said Bazz was going to be a great in the league. Just a guy that can score and has the template to be a solid defender.

  10. #1460
    But what has he shown to make you believe that he can be a good defender, let alone great? Dude is a black hole once the ball goes to him.

  11. #1461
    Solid defender. Not great. His athletic ability has shown me he has the talent to do that. Being a black hole doesn't really have much to do with defense. I think we all can agree the guy can score, and if we can't i don't care to argue about it TBH. He has the wingspan, quickness and speed to be a solid (ie not a liability) defender is all i think is being said. No one's going to mistake him for Pippen.

  12. #1462
    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
    Solid defender. Not great. His athletic ability has shown me he has the talent to do that. Being a black hole doesn't really have much to do with defense. I think we all can agree the guy can score, and if we can't i don't care to argue about it TBH. He has the wingspan, quickness and speed to be a solid (ie not a liability) defender is all i think is being said. No one's going to mistake him for Pippen.
    That says it all. He has the physical attributes to be above average for sure. I don't see why people are latching on to this idea that someone here said he would be great.

  13. #1463
    You can't just judge a guy form just one year of college and say he can't play D. Everyone said Rivers couldn't play D coming out of college, but he was probably our best on ball defender this I think Monty can do the same thing to Bazz

  14. #1464
    I just like his inside out game. He can score from anwhere and he has some tools to work with. Hes versatile.

  15. #1465
    Does "solid" mean "avg" or "above avg?" Because from "non-existent" to "average" is doable. From "non-existent" to "good" will be more work than he is probably willing to do.

  16. #1466
    I would say average to slightly above average. He's not going to be known for his defense or make an all defensive team ever, but he won't be continuously be scorched by the opposing teams player at said position.

  17. #1467
    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    That says it all. He has the physical attributes to be above average for sure. I don't see why people are latching on to this idea that someone here said he would be great.
    People here apparently value my opinion more than I realized. Maybe I should start brushing up on my diction.

    The road to NBA stardom is littered with guys who could make shots and had physical attributes. The guys just never honed in on the skills. Lord knows the hornets have bad more than plenty of them on their roster.

    But time will tell. Will he fill into the guy people think he can be, or will he rest on his laurels?

  18. #1468
    You don't know what you don't know. Even the home runs aren't always home runs.

  19. #1469
    Sometimes she is a he ( as some guys on this board can attest to).

    I would still take Oladipo after Smart, McLemore, Noel. Those 4 I am fine with, but if we took Bazz I am sure I would learn how to deal with it.

  20. #1470
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    The road to NBA stardom is littered with guys who could make shots and had physical attributes. The guys just never honed in on the skills.
    Really? Wow. I had no clue....

  21. #1471
    True story. Julian Wright.

  22. #1472
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    True story. Julian Wright.
    Julian Wright could make shots? Interesting perspective.

  23. #1473
    No, but he had all kinds of "potential", phisical attributes, and was a great facilitator. Just another guy who didnt make it because he never developed his game.

  24. #1474
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    No, but he had all kinds of "potential", phisical attributes, and was a great facilitator. Just another guy who didnt make it because he never developed his game.
    Didn't do anything great but certainly couldn't make buckets. Guys that can make buckets always have a place in the league to a degree.

  25. #1475
    Sarcasm... I thought it was quite blatant.

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