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Thread: Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

  1. #1326
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    His last healthy season 2010-2011 (how pathetic does that sound. We have to reach back 2 seasons for a healthy season.) he had the 6th best PER among sg's.
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...n/sg/year/2011

    He was bettered by Kevin Martin and Lou Williams. Confidence not instilled in this elite at talk.
    How young was he then?!?!??? Its not like players dont improve. 6th in PER is solid at that age so i dont know what your getting at there. Why am i feeding a troll bruh... Da Throne is all right but you are ridiculous.

  2. #1327
    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    You skip over the biggest issue with Gordon in this comment his health issues.

    Who said we trade him for trash? Of course if the best deal you can get for him is a mid to late draft pick or just warm bodies to match contract you don't do that. However if we can get something like PHX unprotected first or a big like Enes Kanter/Derrick Favors just for example that's most certainly isn't trash.
    Chances are his current value wont net us crap. I dont see us getting an unprotected first unless someone is really desperate; and you dont even mention taking on a bad contract.

  3. #1328
    Do you call everyone you don't agree with trolls? How's life working out for you?

    At any rate, agree to disagree. I don't know many title teams built around "Jaguars" but maybe you do.
    If you Jimmer it, they will come.

  4. #1329
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Do you call everyone you don't agree with trolls? How's life working out for you?

    At any rate, agree to disagree. I don't know many title teams built around "Jaguars" but maybe you do.
    Geez somebodies getting offended. Id take the troll title with pride. And notice how i said Da throne wasnt a troll and he tried rippin me a new one. That should tell you all you need to know.

  5. #1330
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    He has proven to be Michael Redd.

    Solid #2 but not a guy you can count on to lead a team. He has been good for 56 games a year (on average) and rock solid for about 3/4 of those.
    Some of the things u post really question whether u truly just troll this board or not.

  6. #1331
    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    Chances are his current value wont net us crap. I dont see us getting an unprotected first unless someone is really desperate; and you dont even mention taking on a bad contract.
    His value is debatable, but he was just offered a max deal coming off a season where he only played 9 games. There are a bunch of bad GM's and maybe just as many desperate ones. I see no reason why PHX wouldn't still be interested or like I mentioned maybe a team like Utah that's on the verge of the playoffs but lack a scorer like Gordon wouldn't be willing to deal.

  7. #1332
    I guess it takes one to know one.
    Jaguar= nice car, but always in the shop. The proof that he isn't is on you not me. If you can, you can. If you can't he is. There is no shame in acknowledging the truth.

  8. #1333
    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    His value is debatable, but he was just offered a max deal coming off a season where he only played 9 games. There are a bunch of bad GM's and maybe just as many desperate ones. I see no reason why PHX wouldn't still be interested or like I mentioned maybe a team like Utah that's on the verge of the playoffs but lack a scorer like Gordon wouldn't be willing to deal.
    True but we've heard of no such offer after the knee fiasco and his performance this season. If we traded id bet its more out of desparation to get rid of his contract. We are better off either waiting next deadline or keeping him.

  9. #1334
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    Some of the things u post really question whether u truly just troll this board or not.
    Just stop replying. Simple.

  10. #1335
    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    Just stop replying. Simple.
    He lacks the self control...and common sense to accept the truth.

  11. #1336
    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    True but we've heard of no such offer after the knee fiasco and his performance this season. If we traded id bet its more out of desparation to get rid of his contract. We are better off either waiting next deadline or keeping him.
    If we could move him next year for a first rounder that would be most choice. But for that to happen he would have to stay healthy (what are the odds on him staying healthy through next seasons trade deadline? 68% more/less).
    Last edited by UNO Gracias; 03-24-2013 at 05:13 PM.

  12. #1337
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    I guess it takes one to know one.
    Jaguar= nice car, but always in the shop. The proof that he isn't is on you not me. If you can, you can. If you can't he is. There is no shame in acknowledging the truth.
    Ac tally it's not..since returning how many games has he missed?? B2b doesn't count cause it's not his decision and he very well could play. He's also still only 24 so still just starting to reach his prime. Still has 4-5 years of his prime to go. What team has Gordon been apart of that the roster was built for the playoffs?? None is the answer. Can't do it by yourself. Lebron with Cleveland is as far as we need to go for that one. Gordon's not lebron is my point n he couldn't even carry a team all the way. Let this team get a competent pg that doesn't run like he has concrete in his shoes and a sf that's capable of scoring without an alley oop and this team will be playoff bound. With him staying healthy like he has since coming back and getting a full off season with the team HEALTHY will tell the story on Gordon for years to come. Next year is absolutely do or die for this kid. But you don't trade him for sh.its n giggles just to do so. He has more potential than anyone in this draft and more proven ability. End of story.

  13. #1338
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    He lacks the self control...and common sense to accept the truth.
    Says the guy who thinks gv is a top pg in this league. Your an idiot...n yes I'm done replying to u TROLL

  14. #1339
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    I guess it takes one to know one.
    Jaguar= nice car, but always in the shop. The proof that he isn't is on you not me. If you can, you can. If you can't he is. There is no shame in acknowledging the truth.
    There is a difference between speaking of a valid concern (injuries) and making outlandish comparisons. Im fine with the injury concerns because they are real. I think some of the things i hear about Gordon are absurd though.

  15. #1340
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    Says the guy who thinks gv is a top pg in this league. Your an idiot...n yes I'm done replying to u TROLL
    You have poor reading comprehension skills, and your basketball knowledge is worse.

    Who said he was a top pg?

  16. #1341
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    He lacks the self control...and common sense to accept the truth.
    Ive seen the truth, and its drastically different from your opinion.

  17. #1342
    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    There is a difference between speaking of a valid concern (injuries) and making outlandish comparisons. Im fine with the injury concerns because they are real. I think some of the things i hear about Gordon are absurd though.
    What are these absurd things you are hearing? Was Michael Redd a bad sg in his prime? Has Gordon been lighting it up every game he has played? What is absurd here?

  18. #1343
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    You have poor reading comprehension skills, and your basketball knowledge is worse.

    Who said he was a top pg?
    I've been on this board long enough to see all the substantial posters have left and been replaced with guys like you. We used to get into disagreements and they were great because the other guys were never demeaning. Now, when you don't agree with somebody you get called a troll.

    And I'm done.
    Last edited by UNO Gracias; 03-24-2013 at 05:24 PM.

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    Who should become the first person to be drafted to the pelicans?

    GV isn't a top 20 PG either.

    Emeka Okafor - Joe Smith - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Jason Williams

    Al Jefferson - James Posey - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston

  20. #1345
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    I guess it takes one to know one.
    Haha i guess so huh?

  21. #1346
    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    What are these absurd things you are hearing? Was Michael Redd a bad sg in his prime? Has Gordon been lighting it up every game he has played? What is absurd here?
    O shut up. Everything dumb ive heard about him has probably come out of your mouth in the past hour. I mean... With all due respect...

  22. #1347
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicans78 View Post
    GV isn't a top 20 PG either.
    Apparently you are right.
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/holli...ualified/false

    But look at the guys listed ahead and below him. Advanced stats are crazy.

  23. #1348
    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    True but we've heard of no such offer after the knee fiasco and his performance this season. If we traded id bet its more out of desparation to get rid of his contract. We are better off either waiting next deadline or keeping him.
    Of course there's the other side of that coin. The longer we wait the closer he becomes to being a FA which also lower his value. I think most GM's are aware of EJ's potential when healthy. The question becomes do they think he can remain healthy enough to justify the max deal and/or to give them the needed push.

    He's not 100% and it's evident, but he's healthy enough to play. So I agree we don't need to rush trading him however moving him while he's healthy IMO gives us the most trade value. Another injury IMO kills any chance for us to get quality for him if he's not going to be here long term.
    Last edited by da ThRONe; 03-24-2013 at 05:31 PM.

  24. #1349
    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    O shut up. Everything dumb ive heard about him has probably come out of your mouth in the past hour. I mean... With all due respect...
    I really wonder if he is truly stumped as to why ppl call him a troll.??? Some of the things he has said and claims made on the whole gv argument is just the tip of the iceberg. I see nobody else on this board that makes the outrageous And crazy proclamations this guy does. Yet he wonders why he gets associated with the word troll.

  25. #1350
    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Of course there's the other side of that coin. The longer we wait the closer he becomes to being a FA which also lower his value. I think most GM's are aware of EJ's potential when healthy. The question becomes do they think he can still healthy enough to justify the max deal and/or to give them the needed push.

    He's not 100% and it's evident, but he's healthy enough to play. So I agree we don't need to rush trading him however moving him while he's healthy IMO gives us the most trade value. Another injury IMO kills any chance for us to get quality for him if we are going to be here long term.
    Your points solid but id definately rather wait. We arent a team that needs capspace, and i just dont see a great hall atm.

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