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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibner View Post
    Also, that whole thing with Bogut being a top defensive center.
    Wait, what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLa. View Post
    Wait, what?
    When healthy...

    Emeka Okafor - Joe Smith - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Jason Williams

    Al Jefferson - James Posey - Aaron McKie - Shaun Livingston

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLa. View Post
    Wait, what?
    At least before his injury, he was the second best defender at the center position. He's really good at that side of the ball.

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    greg oden is also a defensive monster when healthy, which is never

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    I just can't get behind Noel all the way. Just...can't. Don't know why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    greg oden is also a defensive monster when healthy, which is never
    Nah, he fouled way too much even when he was able to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    I just can't get behind Noel all the way. Just...can't. Don't know why.
    Only thing that scares me is the knee. Otherwise he'll be a 245 lb. defensive monster in two years. Might make losing out on Drummond worth it.
    Wherehappens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    I just can't get behind Noel all the way. Just...can't. Don't know why.
    Did you get to watch his last few weeks of play before his injury? Dude was beastin. I'd LOVE to pair him with AD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    I just can't get behind Noel all the way. Just...can't. Don't know why.
    I am the very same way and I just don't feel he is the one we need....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    I just can't get behind Noel all the way. Just...can't. Don't know why.
    I posted that the obvious choice would be Nerlens if McLemore goes #1. However, I don't think the Hornets feel the same way and here's why...

    The Hornets are tired of rebuilding. Taking Nerlens sets the rebuild back by an entire year, possibly more. He tore his ACL; that's not a bone bruise. As a comparison, Derrick Rose tore his ACL in late April. It's soon going to be a full 11 months since the injury and he's still not playing. * Nerlens tore his ACL in mid-February. The flipside is that they are projecting a 6-8 month recovery time for Nerlens, but you have to wonder if that's realistic. Rubio tore his ACL last March, and returned in December, but it's taken him a while to get back to normal. For him, it's pretty much been an 11 month process. Iman Shumpert tore his ACL the same day as Derrick Rose, and has already returned but says he's not 100%.

    My point is that the Hornets may not be willing to wait. Our front office and coaching staff know better than anyone that if they suck again next year, they're going to be on the hot seat.

    Add on to this that ultimately our frontcourt pairing will be Anderson and Davis. Both give you versatility + Jason Smith will be back. Adding another big would really muddy the frontcourt minutes.

    Given what I've posted, I'd project the Hornets board to look something like this

    1. McLemore -- flat out better than everyone else available
    2. Smart -- competitive, and would add size/strength to our backcourt. + he plays defense and hits the glass
    3. Oladipo -- adds energy and perimeter defense which we currently have none of + raw athlete
    4. Porter -- fills a hole at SF. Not the best athlete, but skilled and we have 0 skilled swingmen with size
    5. Nerlens/Shabazz -- I think neither fits Hornets for stated reasons, and the Hornets would look to trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    Only thing that scares me is the knee. Otherwise he'll be a 245 lb. defensive monster in two years. Might make losing out on Drummond worth it.
    Na Drummond has a once in a generation level raw talent. 6'11 guys 275, with handles like a SF, touch around the basket, great hands and feet, lateral quickness like elite guards, 7'6 wing spans, with springs for legs may never be seen again for a long time. He's combo is Wilt/Shaq like when you consider where he is compared to any other big man right now. How he slipped to 9 when a guy like Kwame Brown once was taken 1st overall is a mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Na Drummond has a once in a generation level raw talent. 6'11 guys 275, with handles like a SF, touch around the basket, great hands and feet, lateral quickness like elite guards, 7'6 wing spans, with springs for legs may never be seen again for a long time. He's combo is Wilt/Shaq like when you consider where he is compared to any other big man right now. How he slipped to 9 when a guy like Kwame Brown once was taken 1st overall is a mystery.
    It really isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Na Drummond has a once in a generation level raw talent. 6'11 guys 275, with handles like a SF, touch around the basket, great hands and feet, lateral quickness like elite guards, 7'6 wing spans, with springs for legs may never be seen again for a long time. He's combo is Wilt/Shaq like when you consider where he is compared to any other big man right now. How he slipped to 9 when a guy like Kwame Brown once was taken 1st overall is a mystery.
    If only he could've dropped one more pick...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime View Post
    Add on to this that ultimately our frontcourt pairing will be Anderson and Davis.
    There's no guarantee Davis will ever be a full-time center. Have there even been any reports that Monty/Dell want him there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUFshreve View Post
    If only he could've dropped one more pick...
    Agree, but I think people are too high on him right now. Let's see how he develops. I think there needs to be time before people even mention him in the same thread as Wilt and Shaq, even if they are talking about physical makeup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibner View Post
    At least before his injury, he was the second best defender at the center position. He's really good at that side of the ball.
    Ah I see, yeah I agree to an extent then. He's been nowhere near as active ok that side of the ball since his Bucks days. I was thinking primarily at this moment Bogut is a offensive postup man now more than ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    There's no guarantee Davis will ever be a full-time center. Have there even been any reports that Monty/Dell want him there?
    No there hasn't, people are just making assumptions.

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    Drummond has crazy potential but his will and basketball instincts aren't really there. Where Shaq had all of this and wanted to destroy people. He just seems to lack a killer will to use his gifts. He has the gifts of superstar but like the mind of bench player or something. It's weird lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RUFshreve View Post
    No there hasn't, people are just making assumptions.
    Definite assumption, but I don't think it's a crazy assumption. We can't play Ryan at the 3 because he becomes a perimeter defensive liability + he loses his advantage on the offensive end as well. Add on to this that he makes 8+ million a year so we wouldn't want to bench him.

    I don't see anyway we don't have Davis and Anderson on the court when the game matters next year.

    So 3 spots are taken:

    Eric Gordon
    Ryan Anderson
    Anthony Davis

    It simply makes more sense to me to add a PG and a swing man to that trio then it is to add a big man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primetime View Post
    Definite assumption, but I don't think it's a crazy assumption. We can't play Ryan at the 3 because he becomes a perimeter defensive liability + he loses his advantage on the offensive end as well. Add on to this that he makes 8+ million a year so we wouldn't want to bench him.

    I don't see anyway we don't have Davis and Anderson on the court when the game matters next year.

    So 3 spots are taken:

    Eric Gordon
    Ryan Anderson
    Anthony Davis

    It simply makes more sense to me to add a PG and a swing man to that trio then it is to add a big man.
    But is Smart that guy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    But is Smart that guy?
    I personally am torn on how good Smart is but given how I think the Hornets may approach the building of this team, yea, I feel Smart would make sense. If we're gonna be small in the frontcourt, all 5 guys have to hit the glass. Rebounding is probably Smart's number one strength. That's the one thing I'm sure will carry over into the NBA for him.

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    Right now I'm looking at
    Tier 1
    1) Mclemore
    2) Smart
    3) Noel

    Tier 2
    4) Burke
    5) Shabazz
    6) Porter
    7) Bennett (love his game but falls because of fit)

    Tier 3
    8) Oladipo
    9) Cody Zeller
    10) CJ McCollum
    11) Alex Len
    12) Poythress

    I see a lot of boom or bust in the late first. I say we trade in with Lopez or others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    I just can't get behind Noel all the way. Just...can't. Don't know why.
    Exactly how I feel. I think him and Davis is a horrible pairing with both of those guys being so light in the azz. I want a true 7 footer with an offensive game that isn't a twig n hope he puts enough weight on. We have our shot blocking presence already on this teAm.Now we need OFFENSE. We need a guy we can put the ball in his hands down low and the other team has to respect his scoring ability to open it up for everyone else. Noel has no offense what so ever.

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    We are 3rd worse now all alone in that spot. If we stay there we are most def in the running for mclemore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons View Post
    Right now I'm looking at
    Tier 1
    1) Mclemore
    2) Smart
    3) Noel

    Tier 2
    4) Burke
    5) Shabazz
    6) Porter
    7) Bennett (love his game but falls because of fit)

    Tier 3
    8) Oladipo
    9) Cody Zeller
    10) CJ McCollum
    11) Alex Len
    12) Poythress

    I see a lot of boom or bust in the late first. I say we trade in with Lopez or others.
    i like ur list a lot, when its ur turn to pick u always take the tier 1 player over 2 regardless of need, i just hope we land mclemore and noel and that will be 2 years in a row we land a top 2 player in the draft
    last year it was davis and lillard
    this year itll be mclemore or noel in my opinion

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