Game Thread: Lakers @ Hornets

[Inner_GI]

So sometimes his def. isn't a liability, but we will never hear you say that, but what he excells at (outside of the crunch) is what you will get down on him for?

Ok, cool story.

I do believe a DEF RTG of 120 is WORSE than 106. Just saying.

[UNO Gracias]

The vasquez trolls are just getting out of hand.

You mean Hornet fans. He does play for the Hornets right?

Lets talk about our max contract guy shall we? WTF was he at?

[Eman5805]

I am looking at the data presented. Red means bad, green means good. Those 3 stats get better for him in the crunch. No need to fight the truth.

Not when your defensive rating goes UP, it doesn't.

[TeamReimold]

Well lets see if he ****s up in the first at least we have 3 quarters to make up for. He ****s up on the last possession of the game, how do you recover... that's as simple as it gets, but I doubt you understand.

If he ****s it up at the end there is a bigger margin of error since he played better in the beginning

[rt0307]

I may regret this... so... here goes nothing

HowellOnCST‏@HowellOnCST
W/ less than 5:00 to play & tied or down by 5 or less GV has taken 58 FG's (made 15). Gordon, Anderson & Davis have taken 54 COMBINED!!!

[Inner_GI]

I am looking at the data presented. Red means bad, green means good. Those 3 stats get better for him in the crunch. No need to fight the truth.

Green means higher than the players average... lol

Just because it is green just means it's higher than normal. In the case of DefRtg higher is BAD... learn to read.

[AD23forMVP]

Ill believe when you post data and numbers that back up that claim

Vasquez is -26 per48 in clutch time.

[TeamReimold]

TROLL STATUS^^^^^^^ PLEASE NOBODY ENTERTAIN THE TROLL ANY LONGER IM DONE

God forbid I root for him to do good. Meanwhile you love it when he has a bad game

[Miss_318]

I never said the stats were stupid learn to read. I said that the idea that the numbers he puts up outside of crunch time are somehow meaningless is stupid.

If the whole point is to win the game then yes....if you pad your stats then cant do enough to actually win the ****ing game the it don't mean ****. The scoreboard is what counts....yeah you can get the stats to get them to that point but if you take bad shots...turn the ball over etc in the las 2-5min of the 4th then IDGAF bout what you did before hand when you end up being part of the reason we don't win.

This aint about STATS....this about winning and losing just like in any other sport. Drew Brees threw for over 5000yds and 40TDs in the last 2 seasons but I bet you if you ask him....he'd say it don't mean nothing because he threw multiple picks in some of those games that gave us losses and led to not having a winning season or making the playoffs.

[UNO Gracias]

I do believe a DEF RTG of 120 is WORSE than 106. Just saying.

Is 31.2% usage better than 23%? Or TO ratio going from 11.87% to 4.96% not good?

Who threw the ball inbounds tonight in those last few seconds? Was it GV? Go get mad at that guy.

[Deuce06]

You have no clue what you're talking about. West played most of the season, Okafor and Ariza were elite team defenders, CP3 is a top 5 player in this league and the western conference was weak that season. They won 46 games which was barely above most people's projection of 45. He probably cost them a few more wins by not making Thornton the full time 6th man and only playing Aaron Gray half the season even though he's much better than Mbenga. Come with some facts next time so you don't look so clueless.

Man if Ariza and Okafor are so great why are they performing so poorly now? Why is it that when they dont have a Chris Paul on the team they aren't even noticeable? West played and hurt his knee like I said....I also said that without him we still almost beat the lakers in the playoffs. You are referring to the same Aaron Gray who had to spend half a season "getting in shape"? Yea I presented plenty facts. You aren't saying anything. You fail to point out that West was our main consistent scoring threat but when he went out we still maintained our level of play. We traded Thornton and got Landry that season...someone we ended up NEEDING to fill the hole from West's void. You should get a clue as well.

[iNolaNightmare]

Not trolling. Jen said Monty has been calling plays for Greivis down stretch.

[kclaboy504]

I may regret this... so... here goes nothing

THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH FOR THIS...now let's hear the Vasquez apologist defend this one..oh this will be good I've got my popcorn

[DroopyDawg]

I may regret this... so... here goes nothing

HowellOnCST‏@HowellOnCST
W/ less than 5:00 to play & tied or down by 5 or less GV has taken 58 FG's (made 15). Gordon, Anderson & Davis have taken 54 COMBINED!!!

Hero ball...

[Inner_GI]

If he ****s it up at the end there is a bigger margin of error since he played better in the beginning

cool story. You're wrong, but keep rooting for vasquez when he leaves the hornets.

[kclaboy504]

Is 31.2% usage better than 23%? Or TO ratio going from 11.87% to 4.96% not good?

Who threw the ball inbounds tonight in those last few seconds? Was it GV? Go get mad at that guy.

The to% goes down cause he shoots the dam ball every time!!!! What don't u get about that??

[Daneman]

Rivers out 4-6 with broken hand, per WoJo

[TeamReimold]

Not trolling. Jen said Monty has been calling plays for Greivis down stretch.

Putting the ball in your best players hands is a good idea

[UNO Gracias]

Green means higher than the players average... lol

Just because it is green just means it's higher than normal. In the case of DefRtg higher is BAD... learn to read.

Maybe if i had only learned to read....oh well.

[iNolaNightmare]

Hero ball...

See above post, even though it combine the two most hated people on this board.

[ImSorryMonty]

Such a sad game. Really looking forward to seeing Gordon/Rivers play together more. That combo was lethal in the 2nd quarter tonight. That said, my faith in Monty to make that decision is sorely lacking atm.

[Inner_GI]

Is 31.2% usage better than 23%? Or TO ratio going from 11.87% to 4.96% not good?

Who threw the ball inbounds tonight in those last few seconds? Was it GV? Go get mad at that guy.

Umm... when you play hero ball, you don't pass, so OF COURSE his TO rate goes down. C'mon, you have to be smarter than this, right?

[UNO Gracias]

The to% goes down cause he shoots the dam ball every time!!!! What don't u get about that??

Where were these complaints Friday?

Who was shooting the ball in that last minuet of the game? Lets yell at him.

[kclaboy504]

Not trolling. Jen said Monty has been calling plays for Greivis down stretch.

Well it just confirms my theory all along. We are tanking. No other reason for him to call plays for Vasquez down the stretch. He know Vasquez is garbage so he understands how to tank.

[Inner_GI]

Putting the ball in your best players hands is a good idea

It's official, you're a troll.