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    4-Team Gordon Trade that Makes Deng a Hornet / Pelican

    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    People are looking at this from a different angle than 42 and myself.

    We view it as a way for us to gain cap flexability, while holding on to some very interesting trade pieces that will have no need for upselling. And if you like Deng (and who doesn't) your netting a better player than anyone in this entire trade. Deng is proven, and legit. Everyone else is an also ran (EG included). And if you don't want him long term he is definitely a guy Indy or GS would take for George or Barnes.

    Others here are viewing this as a bad move as we get rid of EG and Aminu and don't get any key players for our long term. Well neither is in our long term plans, so why are we fretting about this?
    That's people post trades. To get different angles an points of view.

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    This team is really young, and it needs a big time veteran presence like Deng. I'm on board, we'd have a huge hole at the 2 but maybe we could land Mayo with out cap space. This trade also maintains our cap flexibility like others have said already. Hopefully draft Burke, damn I'm liking it more and more. Give me Deng

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    The more I look at it, the more I think Chicago and New Orleans can do this deal by themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    Supposedly Toronto isn't interested in Boozer. I read this somewhere but I can remember where, so I have no link. It may have been Rotoworld.

    I am beginning to get on board with Deng. He's not a superstar but he's a damn good basketball player who works really hard and is as tough as they come. His non shooting wrist was hurt last year, and he delayed surgery last summer for the Olympics and ten delayed it again for the NBA season.
    I linked to an article in the longer post that says the Boozer+Robinson for Bargnani+Lucas deal is there for Toronto to take, but they haven't taken it. Their reluctance could mean they don't like Boozer or they don't like him with the other costs. That deal, for instance, takes them a good deal into the tax. This deal takes their salary down.

    It's not clear it'd work, but it would change the look of the deal for them potentially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    This team is really young, and it needs a big time veteran presence like Deng. I'm on board, we'd have a huge hole at the 2 but maybe we could land Mayo with out cap space. This trade also maintains our cap flexibility like others have said already. Hopefully draft Burke, damn I'm liking it more and more. Give me Deng
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    The more I look at it, the more I think Chicago and New Orleans can do this deal by themselves.
    Deng+Hinrich for Gordon+Aminu works in the Trade Machine and works in terms of positions, but I don't think Chicago would do that. It's repalcing short term good with longer term risk while leaving them trying to move Boozer. In the more complicated deal, they get that fixed which may offset the risk increase I just laid out.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
    That's people post trades. To get different angles an points of view.
    Oui.

    I think UNO is just framing up the conversation as he sees it.

    Frankly, I really like the depth this trade discussion has. Not all discussions get into this many angles of a trade, but this one is pretty big, so there's more opportunity. I'd like to go ahead and say thanks for that.

    I recommend you guys read the original article to look at all the wrinkles. Look for more.

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    I guess I just like Aminu too much, and figure you still are going to plan to move Deng in the next couple of years. Gordon is such a wildcard as far as if his value will go up, go down or stay the same. I think we'll look to move him over the summer when we can trade him to any team without his permission. That alone could/should raise his value because it increases our options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    I guess I just like Aminu too much, and figure you still are going to plan to move Deng in the next couple of years. Gordon is such a wildcard as far as if his value will go up, go down or stay the same. I think we'll look to move him over the summer when we can trade him to any team without his permission. That alone could/should raise his value because it increases our options.
    The Summer thing is a great point. It will increase the number of teams that can get him in trade, and that will not decrease his value. It will not increase the value if such a trade can be worked now. My thought has always been that any trade would take place this offseason or after for that reason.

    The point here is that quality may be able to be had for Gordon now. This is contrary to the common idea that we can only get bad contracts back for him without sending out assets. I just want to spur some different thinking, or get my thinking corrected.

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    I think that it would be fun to get Terrance Ross but I don't see the Raps giving him up. That is a core piece. A team of Boozer, Gay, Lowery, and DeRozen is actually pretty solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inner_GI View Post
    The more I look at it, the more I think Chicago and New Orleans can do this deal by themselves.
    It seems that way on the surface, but they want to get rid of Boozer's contract.
    Wherehappens.

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    As for this trade as is, I'd much rather sit pat and roll the dice on Gordon for the time being. I'd love to have more vet leadership and like Deng a lot, but I'd rather keep an improving Aminu and pair him with an Otto Porter or Budinger next year.

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