Gameday Thread: Warriors @ Hornets

[nolaslim213]

he had two TO's neither of which led to points. the shots golden state were hitting were tough for anyone to guard. he has been a main reason the hornets are winning now along with gordon and he definitely deserves to be in the end of the game. I honestly don't know what you are talking about or thinking right now

I think you are misunderstanding me. Just because I'm saying Vasquez had a bad game doesn't mean he shouldn't finish games going forward. I'm saying that Monty needs to recognize when certain players aren't playing well, and he needs to play the guys that are hot. Anderson was playing great, but he only got 28 minutes... That is unacceptable! Gordon, far and away our best player, only got 31 minutes! That isn't okay. Monty needs to grow as a game-manager (something he has never been very good at, but he has made some improvements since his rookie year). My point is that Vasquez was stinking it up in the 4th quarter, and he practically gave the game away between his bad decisions and bad shooting.

[speedyG]

Rivers is a 20 year old rookie. Vasquez is 26. He shouldn't be turning the ball over in clutch situations. That's something he really needs to work on.

Rivers is alot more likely to turn it over in a clutch situation than Vasquez, You dont put Rivers in and say hey its ok if he messes up and we lose since he's 20.

[Snarly]

What's with the blame game? We had our chances. Both Gordon and Vasquez had their opportunities. Turnovers down the stretch by both of our key players at the end of the game killed us. We lost this game as a team.

[Inner_GI]

I think our poor Free Throw shooting gave the game away. Not Monty or Vasquez. Take a chill pill. You sound angry. lol

[jinishima]

I agree, but I was replying to a post that was saying Vasquez was horrible. The Free throw % was the reason we lost not Monty or Vasquez.

I agree, I was just elaborating on your point.

[Miss_318]

Rivers is alot more likely to turn it over in a clutch situation than Vasquez

I don't think he was disputing that in hi post tho....just saying because he is less likely to...its crazy that he was so sloppy with the ball in that situation. Same goes for Gordon with the bad TO at the end as well...

[PelicanFever]

vazquez did have the flu

[Ceedee M]

I knew we would lose as soon as the Warriors passed the 100 mark. The Hornets rarely, rarely, rarely win when they give up 100+

ETA: well I didn't know, but I knew it was a really good chance.

[nolaslim213]

Man... The Vasquez lovers on this forum are intolerable. If I say he had one bad game (didn't even put the loss on him, I actually put the loss on Monty), you guys jump down my throat.

I never said bench Vasquez for the rest of the season. I never said replace him with Rivers (actually, I would have replaced him with Aminu, who was having a good game). I never said he shouldn't be a closer anymore. I never said I jumped off the Vasquez bandwagon. I never said he isn't a leader. I don't get why you guys are freaking out. If a player has a bad game, I'm going to talk about it. Just deal with it.

Anyway, I can see this is fruitless. I'll bow out, but Vasquez still had a bad game no matter how many Vasquez-lovers run to his aid.

Night folks!

[GeneralGreivis]

I think you are misunderstanding me. Just because I'm saying Vasquez had a bad game doesn't mean he shouldn't finish games going forward. I'm saying that Monty needs to recognize when certain players aren't playing well, and he needs to play the guys that are hot. Anderson was playing great, but he only got 28 minutes... That is unacceptable! Gordon, far and away our best player, only got 31 minutes! That isn't okay. Monty needs to grow as a game-manager (something he has never been very good at, but he has made some improvements since his rookie year). My point is that Vasquez was stinking it up in the 4th quarter, and he practically gave the game away between his bad decisions and bad shooting.

I understand you more than you know. I just disagree that Vasquez had a horrible or even bad game. He left in the third quarter playing very well. He wasn't going to come back with 5 mins left in the 4th, foul, miss two threes and sit down. Gordon wasn't productive in the clutch either that's why GV was taking the threes even though he wasn't feeling it.

[sterlr]

Originally Posted by luckyman

Minutes:

Jack - 36
Curry (off a sore ankle) - 38
Thompson - 38
Landry - 38

Davis - 32
Gordon - 31
Vasquez - 34
Anderson - 28

Our winning players should have played winning minutes. Not tomention Lopezonly playing 19 against a small, bad defensive team.

Yea, especially with a young team like ours and having 2 DAYS off against a back-to-back for GS.

[Inner_GI]

Man... The Vasquez lovers on this forum are intolerable. If I say he had one bad game (didn't even put the loss on him, I actually put the loss on Monty), you guys jump down my throat.

I never said bench Vasquez for the rest of the season. I never said replace him with Rivers (actually, I would have replaced him with Aminu, who was having a good game). I never said he shouldn't be a closer anymore. I never said I jumped off the Vasquez bandwagon. I never said he isn't a leader. I don't get why you guys are freaking out. If a player has a bad game, I'm going to talk about it. Just deal with it.

Anyway, I can see this is fruitless. I'll bow out, but Vasquez still had a bad game no matter how many Vasquez-lovers run to his aid.

Night folks!

I'm not blaming Monty either... I blame the team for the Free Throws. That's what you fail to read in my posts... lol Goodnight. Hopefully the anger from this loss subsides.

[Miss_318]

Fact is there are many factors that come into play in this loss. Rotations, Missed FTs, bad TOs in key situations, bad fouls, bad shots....all had to do with it.

[GeneralGreivis]

Man... The Vasquez lovers on this forum are intolerable. If I say he had one bad game (didn't even put the loss on him, I actually put the loss on Monty), you guys jump down my throat.

I never said bench Vasquez for the rest of the season. I never said replace him with Rivers (actually, I would have replaced him with Aminu, who was having a good game). I never said he shouldn't be a closer anymore. I never said I jumped off the Vasquez bandwagon. I never said he isn't a leader. I don't get why you guys are freaking out. If a player has a bad game, I'm going to talk about it. Just deal with it.

Anyway, I can see this is fruitless. I'll bow out, but Vasquez still had a bad game no matter how many Vasquez-lovers run to his aid.

Night folks!

[GeneralGreivis]

Fact is there are many factors that come into play in this loss. Rotations, Missed FTs, bad TOs in key situations, bad fouls, bad shots....all had to do with it.

I blame davis for celebrating too much on the bench

[luckyman]

You can add bad coaching on defense that didnt get fixed until the game was damn near over. You DO NOT need to leave their shooters to help Davis (or any Hornets big against GS) in the post. GS ate them up all night from that poor defensive strategy.

[Eman5805]

You can add bad coaching on defense that didnt get fixed until the game was damn near over. You DO NOT need to leave their shooters to help Davis (or any Hornets big against GS) in the post. GS ate them up all night from that poor defensive strategy.

That's some annoying Byron Scott vs the Spurs crap.

[FlyGirl]

Jim Eichenhofer ‏@Jim_Eichenhofer
Monty on disappointment of close loss: "It's unfortunate because we had a big crowd tonight and a lot to play for, but we didn't step up."

24m Jim Eichenhofer ‏@Jim_Eichenhofer
Monty Williams on porous defense played by Hornets in a high-scoring 116-112 game: "I think we lost our identity tonight."

[luckyman]

Jim Eichenhofer ‏@Jim_Eichenhofer
Monty on disappointment of close loss: "It's unfortunate because we had a big crowd tonight and a lot to play for, but we didn't step up."

Are we really trying to make them there playoffs?

[FlyGirl]

Postgame: Warriors @ Hornets

[WhoDatPelican]

Just got home...we shoulda woulda coulda won this game.. Make our free throws we win..

13/23 on free throws
9/24 from 3

tells most of the story right there.

[FlyGirl]

NBA.com: "Hornets shoot 57 percent ... and lose to G.S.".

[WhoDatPelican]

NBA.com: "Hornets shoot 57 percent ... and lose to G.S.".

GS 30/35 free throws AND Klay Thompson is waaaaayyy better then i thought. Kid is something else.

[AD23nEG10]

just hurts that we didn't get looks up between austin turning it over, gordon turning it over & then the illegal screen

[WhoDatPelican]

just hurts that we didn't get looks up between austin turning it over, gordon turning it over & then the illegal screen

The (from where i was sitting didnt see replay) BS moving screen on smith killed it. I stayed to the end but yea.... that foul you felt the energy leave the building.