The only reason I can see us moving him is to ease the burden or stay below the luxury tax next year if we can?t stay below it. We don?t really have a need and technically he does have on trait we need. Hopefully he picks up his shooting this year
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The only reason I can see us moving him is to ease the burden or stay below the luxury tax next year if we can?t stay below it. We don?t really have a need and technically he does have on trait we need. Hopefully he picks up his shooting this year
There's no way we're avoiding tax next year. Probably even more important to clear salary once repeater kicks in
Graham is basically an expiring contract that year
And I'm getting de-ja-vu writing this post
Currently, the team is willing to move him if:
A) No draft equity goes out and they get a similar player/similar contract
B) No draft equity and it’s a worse player on a shorter deal
C) Equity is attached but it’s a MAJOR upgrade
There is no interest in attaching equity just to get off the contract. Anything he ever gives as a player is a bonus moving forward. In reality, he is and will be just a contract. Think of him like when we signed Darius Miller a few years ago for that exact purpose
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They have talked to the Jazz about a few guys. The Jazz are trying to get off Conley and we said no thanks. Beasley is a better target than Clarkson and so is Bogdanovic. Also, a Hayes for Vanderbilt swap makes some sense for both teams but both sides probably think the other should throw in a sweetener
My God can we please sign Dyson Daniels so I can start getting excited about him again?
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I went to the first TWolves game in the SKC last year and was so impressed with Vanderbilt, arms everywhere, hustle all the time, good communication. Made sure to keep an eye on him whenever the TWolves came on TV. Only issue is him getting in the way of other young guys but I would throw in a 2nd or 2 to make that deal work.
In relation to Devonte, I still expect him on this team like I did a few weeks ago. This situation certainly doesn't help in the short term, hopefully he keeps the vibes immaculate on the bench
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Agreed, some ppl here are going way overboard. Graham isn't such a bad asset that you have to attach a FRP to move him. He was always brought in to play off Zion anyways, so we should atleast let him try that and see if his 3 point shooting rises back to his career average, because then he'd be a neutral asset at worst. His contract is very cheap, if he can get back to 38-40% from deep.
You would have to attach a first to move him. Maybe you don’t believe you should have to, but you would.
You can’t just dump him to anyone and 2nds wouldn’t be enough. If it was just a dump, yes you would have to give up a first. Now, if you got a bad player back on an expiring or a slightly better player back on 2 yrs, maybe it’s only a second or two. But if you wanted to dump him, you would absolutely have to give up a first. He is a negative asset even before the DWI. And now, you trade for him as another team and you have to answer why you traded for a guy who just had some legal trouble
It absolutely would take a first. If it didn’t, he would be gone already
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Bogdanovic is a horrible defender, I feel like I'm good on that lol
There is a route to staying under the tax next year. Assuming Hayes and Temple move on(Temple is non guaranteed next season), the Pels would be about $6 million under the estimated tax line with 13 players signed. That likely would be enough to add a draft pick and another minimum-type player. However, Nance would need to be extended. They would have to dump DG for nothing to extend Nance to a similar contract. That may entail attaching assets even next offseason even though his last season is only partially guaranteed. Will have to see how it plays out. Also, by that time, a decision may be made on whether to keep Kira or not.
Why not Sexton. We could give them a conditional first and a backup to Garland. I’m even starting to like Robinson a little bit. Beasley is still my guy that I really want though.
Mac may have said this already, but I can basically assure you that Gayle is not going to pay the tax this season. We would have to be top 3ish in the west at the deadline in order to maybe convince her to become a tax team, and even then I don't think it's happening. I do believe, however, that if we look like a contender this season, she will pay the tax next year
Correct. But people also need to remember that it only matters if you are in the tax at the end of the year
You can be over the tax line all year and then dump a guy with a pick or waive and stretch a guy, etc to get below. It’s not ideal. But it’s possible, so if a great deal comes available and it puts them into the tax for now, that won’t stop them from doing it, as long as there is a clear path to get out of the tax before the season is over (example - Jax and Graham for John Collins is somehow available)
That would put them in tax but buying out and stretching Temple or dumping him with a 2nd and cash would get them out
This was an absolute whiff by Griff. I mean, like swinging, missing and falling down and knocking out your teeth whiff.
I think we were still trying to figure out our identity at this point. But a tiny guard, who isn't a distributor, is a streaky shooter, and plays zero defense at all...and then giving up a FIRST ROUND PICK for him..
I think they finally figured out that whatever Devontae Graham is....we want the complete OPPOSITE of that.
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