Victor Oladipo would be an interesting bench scoring option if Pels can move Graham/temple.
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Victor Oladipo would be an interesting bench scoring option if Pels can move Graham/temple.
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I did too. Good if you like dark chocolate. Not for me though.Originally Posted by kinglio21093
Some Devonte Graham destinations are starting to slowly creep open. The Mavs make a lot of sense if they lose Brunson. The Celtics are bargain hunting for shooters. The Suns may be interested. The Wizards just need stuff. Could get interesting after the initial FA rush
I wonder who would turn down Graham and Hayes for Hardaway. We obviously had a huge interest just 12 months ago. And yeah, Celtics are poking around everywhere
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I really hope we would given his $54 million due over next 3 years.
Mentioned that on Twitter a while ago and got clowned by Mavs fans. Not sure if that means anything, but thats a spot Jax could really blossom offensively
I think Wiz are our ideal and Celts dump is next but if options start drying up, I would consider it
I tried one. It was a brick bar.You know what would help you endure that? Built bar!!!
Would our target with Wiz be KCP?
Celtics have a $17.1 mil TPE. Could fit Graham and Temple into it. I'd be willing to trade Graham and Temple to the Celtics for a fake second if you knew you had an MLE candidate lined up
Agree. Would Celtics be interested though (without picks being attached)?
Going through the list of possible interested in Hayes teams, Mavs seemed like a great on court fit. Then I wondered if the intersection between these 3 things would be a significant PR issue: (1) What legal / character issue Kidd has in his past, that resurfaced when they hired him (2) What public investigation the Mavs recently/ are still dealing with (3) What lawsuit/ allegations does Hayes currently have against him.
I imagine they think they can get someone better than him and they know they can probably get him at the deadline. I'm cool with Graham on this team to start the year as I think he's probably a slight negative asset and dont want to give up anything. Get rid of Jax and lets ride.
Last edited by neitzelbaby12; 06-28-2022 at 06:52 PM. Reason: messed up TPE rules
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A TPE can be split.
My mistake. Totally had it mixed up and was thinking about not being able to combine TPEs to reach a certain salary. Im getting rusty
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I see Burks and Noel going to pistons. Most unfortunate.
Might make Stewart more available though. Doubt it, but it's possible.
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I'm wondering if you could get Stewart and Burk from Pistons now?
Why would we want Hardaway, when the whole reason we weren't entertaining trades for guys like Dort was because of the contract extension we would have to give? Hardaway makes the same type of money.
My thoughts 100%. Why are we trying to extend CJ now and for how long? Dude is already on the wrong side of 30 and didn't look great in the Phoenix series. I'm in no rush to commit more years to him at $30+ million. That extension seems like one you'd wait a year to do.
With regard to Hardaway vs Dort -- a few things. In this situation, you would be getting off Graham, so you are only really adding 6-8 mil per year in addition to what you already are committed to. In addition, it would effectively be a 2 year/34 mil contract after next season, where Dort would be a 4/70-80-ish (maybe more after seeing what Brunson is getting).
As for CJ, I could go either way on the extension. The benefit of it is to actually limit the total years IMO. You give him 1 or 2 years now and its effectively a 3 or 4 year deal, and thats the last deal in all likelihood. In the situation where you just wait him out, then you either let him go for nothing or you give him another 3 or 4 year contract - as its pretty rare a player of that caliber re-signs for 1 or 2 years. Its about control the years, basically agreeing to overpaying him for a year or two on the back half of this extension as opposed to 3 or 4 years on a new contract. And yes, at some point we will overpay CJ. But you wont just be paying for the player, just like GS is not just paying for the on court performances of Draymond, Klay, and current Iggy. But ideally, you will be underpaying other guys, the way GS is underpaying Steph, and Poole, and Payton
Also, to be clear, Hardaway wouldn’t be my first option. I think my first option now would be Olynyk and Burks for Graham, Temple, and Hayes. Then, KCP. But if nothing else was on the table and it was that trade vs roll into camp as is, it would be 50/50 for me. I would rather have Hardaway and EJ getting those 1400-1800 minutes throughout the season than Graham and Hayes. I’d also prefer Hardaways length for the playoffs. On the other side, I would be more than happy to just see what is available in February
Why do Pistons take on more players with more guaranteed money for longer, when all 3 of our guys have negative value? (Hayes and Temple neutral at best)
What pick sweeteners are you throwing in?
Last edited by AusPel; 06-29-2022 at 09:15 AM.
I don’t think Hayes has neutral value. It’s slightly positive. Temple is neutral for a team that wants to have salary to trade in Feb. Graham might work his way back to neutral value after the contract or Brunson and others come in.
But yeah, you probably throw in a second or two. More cash. But remember, not all teams want to win as many games as possible this year. What you have to do is find a team who thinks of good players like Burks as a negative because he helps them win an extra game or two. Those are the teams you have to focus in on and sell them on “you want some guys that will help you lose games, I got some over here that helped us start 3-16!”
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