Havent talked to him since Friday, but yeah, everyone on the inside knows the Pels would do a trade down if an overpay happened. And that might be one, again, if they can get Dieng who they really like.
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Havent talked to him since Friday, but yeah, everyone on the inside knows the Pels would do a trade down if an overpay happened. And that might be one, again, if they can get Dieng who they really like.
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I think they would take more/better future picks over a current player - especially another one they’d have to pay soon. And if that means keeping Graham to get a better pick, I think they’d do that too
But I agree on Sharpe. If he is there at 8, I would treat the pick like I was picking 4th or 5th. And moving from 12 to 5 would cost a ton. I would negotiate like that and if they can’t meet that price, I just take Sharpe
It’s all still up in the air. I think it could also go Chet-Paolo-Smith up top. Sacto could take Ivey. A whole bunch of permutations but those 5 (three bigs, Ivey, Murray) are gone. The question really is: which other two guys are going above us? I would say Sharpe is most likely, Daniels and Mathurin tied for next, Griffin and Duren slightly less chance than those two, Davis a dark horse and the least likely but Indy does have some interest
Any info if the Pels are looking at Davis?
Seems to check a bunch of boxes for us:
High character
Hard worker
Good BBIQ/ feel for the game
Active defender
Good around the basket, mid range, and FTs
Questions about his athleticism and 3 ball (maybe the latter will improve in a smaller role).
Re-watching some AJ Griffin tape. His gravity out beyond the 3 point line is insane, and he a legitimately good and active cutter. He gives me Harrison Barnes vibes
I’m not going to be too quick to judge his defense when half the guys in the lotto are bad defenders. I’d like to see him another year removed from the injuries and in a different defensive scheme than the one Duke ran which was horrid. But, that would still be a decently valuable player.
Been watching alot of Dieng lately. Dude is like a young BI it's very odd. If he becomes anything close to BI in his prime, what would 2 BIs and Zion in four years look like??? And Trey Murphy is getting taller and adding more muscle as well sheesh.
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I think Nic Batum or Chandler Parsons is a little more realistic for Dieng. Ingram was a downhill, attacking alpha at Duke. I like Dieng, but I dont see quite that skill set or mentality from him.
Chandler Parsons, pre injury, was a really nice piece that would compliment the current team incredibly well. Same with Batum. Still prefer Daniels because of his defensive feel, but wouldnt be upset at all with Dieng in a trade down
By the way, Wiggins is example 4 million and 26 of most guys outcome being dependent on where they play as opposed to who they are/their skill set. Sharpe goes to Sacramento and he wont get his shine until team 2 or 3, eight or nine years from now. He goes to the Pels or Spurs, and he will be an All Star by the end of his rookie contract and All NBA by year 5 or 6. Firm believer in that, still.
I never agreed with the 'he's just a shooter' crowd.
His floor is already pretty high because of his dad being a NBA coach, but if he ever got back some of his old athleticism he could be pretty crazy ceiling-wise.
Although his decrease in athleticism is confusing since he only had two knee sprains.
I really like Murray, Daniels and Mathurin (Ivey too but he will surely be gone) in regards to what they can bring to the team. If those three are not there at 8 I hope we can trade down because I feel everyone else will be a reach at 8. If we don't trade down and the aforementioned players are gone then I hope they draft Dieng and let him develop.
From what I've gathered through a LOT of listening to podcasts featuring people way smarter than me, it sounds like the decrease in athleticism was more due to missing offseason workout and conditioning programs as a result of the injuries. But, mainly, his functional athleticism was depleted by just a general lack of processing as a result of not being on the floor. You can't use your athleticism if you are a step slow processing, but that's what gives me a little bit of hope for his long term outlook. Apparently he's a terrific kid who will put in the work, and you can see the effort that he gives. The guy is always in a defensive stance, but the processing just isn't there right now. He gets beat on a lot of backdoor cuts, and he doesn't anticipate screens well at all. I actually thought he was a very good weakside help defender, though.
Dan Purcell, who is a former Pels exec, said on the Draft Deeper pod Saturday that it's no secret the Pels have interest in AJ Griffin. Could obviously be a smokescreen as I'm not sure what connections he still has in the org, but that's the reason I've been digging into Griffin
I mean, I told you that on this board two weeks ago. Am I not important enough to warrant digging into someone
Former Pels exec, current undercover Pels smokescreen operator. Lol. Have we ever had draft leaks that turned out to be true, in the D. Griffin era? Even without inside intel, it's clear why pundits are linking Griffin to Pels: Duke connection, great 3pt shooter (Zion/Pels need shooting), NBA father, "good character" humble.
I just know if he is the pick at 8, there will be a lot of disappointed Pels fans those first few days. Might take a positive propaganda campaign to turn the tide of opinion of him, compared to the other top prospects.
I'm just happy we are in such a good position (short term and into 5 years) - I can't believe I'm saying this but it would be hard for Langdon and Griffin to mess this up (unless they draft someone like Sharpe who I think we will be a bust or will take Wiggins type time frame to develop into a really good role player). I know some love Sharpe but I don't see it.
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