Pels Off season thread

[da ThRONe]

Devonte Graham is who we end up with? Very underwhelmed, but that's the kind of free agents I expected to pull. Disappointed we didn't just draft Sharife Cooper he was there in the 2nd round. I think a lot of teams are going to kick themselves for passing on that kid. He walks into the league as a top 5-7 combination of ball handler and passes. Kids vision, handles, and passing are all elite already.

[Pelifan]

actually im not going to stress too much about a FRP. doesnt really matter when Tomas "czech jordan" Satoransky is going to make sure that's pick 30 anyway.

[Pelicanidae]

Holmes and his agent, Pedro Power, reached agreement with the Kings tonight. Sacramento has its starting center back. https://t.co/nAbzySlPJ0

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 3, 2021

PEDRO POWER.

[Pelicanidae]

Devonte Graham is who we end up with? Very underwhelmed, but that's the kind of free agents I expected to pull. Disappointed we didn't just draft Sharife Cooper he was there in the 2nd round. I think a lot of teams are going to kick themselves for passing on that kid. He walks into the league as a top 5-7 combination of ball handler and passes. Kids vision, handles, and passing are all elite already.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Speakin' my language. sHARIFE!

[PELSGIRL]

He has to be moving Hart right in a S&T? Can't imagine we are done.

[Taker597]

Screw it, why not?

Also, BI doesn't play 48 minutes a game.

Edit: this is partially joking, but in reality what I mean is, I don't really care about nominal positions. Both Ingles and BI can shoot, pass, and handle somewhat. They can both C&S and run a PnR. I don't really care which of them is technically playing which position, but they can take the floor alongside each other in my opinion.

Well, if we are gonna abandon defense. Might as well just get lights out shooter. Feels like we are going back to Gentry logic. Atleast he's not a guard, I suppose.

[Pelicanidae]

Well, if we are gonna abandon defense. Might as well just get lights out shooter. Feels like we are going back to Gentry logic. Atleast he's not a guard, I suppose.

Ingles is a perfectly fine team defender! 80th percentile in D-EPM last year. Positive DBPM, +0.5 D-RAPTOR. He's not going to make any all-D teams but he's not bad at all. Good hands, generally solid positioning, decent footwork, knows where to be.

[hornetzplaya]

We're definitely not done. We have two trade that haven't been finalized yet with tradable players. So within the next day, we'll see what's gone happen. Plus with still a good amount of money (under the tax) left over we can still sign pretty decent FA's.

[Impose]

So, after this tank season we will have:

Brandon Ingram - 32mil
Zion Williamson - 13mil
Devonte Graham - 13mil
Jaxson Hayes - 7mil
Kira Lewis - 4mil
Nickeil Alexander-Walker - 5mil
Naji Marshall - 2mil
Trey Murphy III - 2.5mil

~78mil on the books and it will be our last chance to land a big name FA before Zion's max hits the books.

Obviously still more signings to happen, but just some perspective on what the longer game may look like and why Griff went for a cheaper guy in Graham.

[Taker597]

Ingles is a perfectly fine team defender! 80th percentile in D-EPM last year. Positive DBPM, +0.5 D-RAPTOR. He's not going to make any all-D teams but he's not bad at all. Good hands, generally solid positioning, decent footwork, knows where to be.

But we don't have perfectly fine team defenders. The vibe from what I'm getting is that we are about to be an awful defensive team with a blackhole bench... Again.

But I digress on that.

I wonder what happens to Derozan.


I guess there is no market for Derozan. I wonder what he'll go or even get for... Anti-clutch, can't shoot 3s, and poor defender.

[hornetzplaya]

Unsigned NBA free agents include:
DeRozan
Dinwiddie
Kawhi (listening but prolly LAC)
Schroder
Melo
Monk
Oubre
Reggie Jax
John Collins
Lauri
Blake
Drummond
Kieff
Iggy
Dipo
Otto
Hassan
Torrey
D Green
Patty
Lou Wil
Bruce Brown
Hart
Avery B
Frank N
Elf
Taj
Theo

— New York Basketball (@NBA_NewYork) August 3, 2021

[Pelicanidae]

But we don't have perfectly fine team defenders. The vibe from what I'm getting is that we are about to be an awful defensive team with a blackhole bench... Again.

But I digress on that.

I wonder what happens to Derozan.

I guess there is no market for Derozan. I wonder what he'll go or even get for... Anti-clutch, can't shoot 3s, and poor defender.

Eh, Idk. Kira and NAW both showed signs last year that they can defend alright - they were inconsistent, but there's moments. Zion wasn't a plus but he's certainly not as bad as people sometimes say, if he takes a normal step he'll probably be fine. Valanciunas is a good defender if used properly, and Naji/Trey/Herb is honestly a pretty solid defensive wing trio, though obviously who gets minutes is up in the air as of yet. Jax, again, lots of defensive progress last year, I have positive thoughts for him this season (assuming things go well and he's playing).

Basically what I'm saying is that I don't think we'll be an elite defensive team but I think we have the pieces to be at least okay. Not bottom 5 again Maybe like, 16th in the league or something. Just fine.

You know, I know most people haven't really watched the Spurs recently because ... y'know, why would you? But DeRozan actually made some good strides in recent years. Wouldn't like his fit on this team, but he's good at basketball!

[rezburna]

Unsigned NBA free agents include:
DeRozan
Dinwiddie
Kawhi (listening but prolly LAC)
Schroder
Melo
Monk
Oubre
Reggie Jax
John Collins
Lauri
Blake
Drummond
Kieff
Iggy
Dipo
Otto
Hassan
Torrey
D Green
Patty
Lou Wil
Bruce Brown
Hart
Avery B
Frank N
Elf
Taj
Theo

— New York Basketball (@NBA_NewYork) August 3, 2021

Malik Monk

[Pelicanidae]

Free agent F Semi Ojeleye has agreed to a one-year deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, his agent Sean Kennedy of @excelbasketball tells ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 3, 2021

Bucks repeating now

[Funcrusher]

Devonte Graham (''not really a playmaker'') this year: 27%AST, 10%TOV
Lonzo Ball (the next Magic Johnson) this year: 25%AST, 14%TOV

okay.

Devonte is also, I repeat, a much better defender than some people seem to think. 68th percentile in D-EPM this year, +0.2. For comparison, Lonzo was +0.7 this year, 77th percentile. Not a huge amount better.

People having problems with this trade but apparently being ok with paying Lonzo 20 mil a year genuinely confuse me.

[SonOfNOLA]

Hart + picks in a double S&T for DeRozan?

[MichaelMcNamara]

We're definitely not done. We have two trade that haven't been finalized yet with tradable players. So within the next day, we'll see what's gone happen. Plus with still a good amount of money (under the tax) left over we can still sign pretty decent FA's.

But FA has been open for almost 6 hours....we must be done

[PELICANSFAN]

Otto Porter for part of the MLE would be nice. Wonder if we are looking to trade for Barnes. He could play backup BI and Zion or play in a lineup with both. He is a good veteran presence, good defender and shooter. He fills a need. However, unless they are just looking to unload his contract or really like Hart, could be a tough deal to pull off.

[Pelicanidae]

Excited to have you @Devonte4Graham!! New Orleans will welcome you with open arms! pic.twitter.com/3Ly9BNJIld

— Pelicans Discord (@PelicansDiscord) August 3, 2021

Oh look, someone who actually seems like they want to be here

[Pelicanidae]

People having problems with this trade but apparently being ok with paying Lonzo 20 mil a year genuinely confuse me.

Yeah it's weird. I get being annoyed with the first, I really do, but overall it's really not that bad. It's not like Graham is useless or something, and he's not expensive, and the fit makes sense.

[luckyman]

I'm fine with today's dealings. Even the lotto protection on the Graham is deep enough. I'd be literally sick if they had signed Lonzo for that Chicago contract here.

Now if they can top it off with adding Dinwiddie at less than $20 mil count me satisfied. Buddy Heild is probably a pipe dream.

Dinwiddie/Graham/Kira/NAW would be a pretty material transformation of the weakest part of this team last year and a solid guard rotation with upside. You could even hold Dinwiddie out of b2b games and have a good excuse to give Kira those minutes.

Plus more if you want to go small. I don't expect Satoransky to stick around.

[Pelicanidae]

I'll always root for a guy happy to be in New Orleans https://t.co/Cg1HxXaMQJ

— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) August 3, 2021

[Taker597]

If we can get a couple more bigs. I'd like to have better size. I'd be pretty content.



*Make it almost mathematically impossible to play 4 guard line ups.

[PELSGIRL]

Excited to have you @Devonte4Graham!! New Orleans will welcome you with open arms! pic.twitter.com/3Ly9BNJIld

— Pelicans Discord (@PelicansDiscord) August 3, 2021

Oh look, someone who actually seems like they want to be here

Him and Trey Murphy. Lol.

[AusPel]

Devonte Graham is who we end up with? Very underwhelmed, but that's the kind of free agents I expected to pull. Disappointed we didn't just draft Sharife Cooper he was there in the 2nd round. I think a lot of teams are going to kick themselves for passing on that kid. He walks into the league as a top 5-7 combination of ball handler and passes. Kids vision, handles, and passing are all elite already.

Sharife can't shoot, but we still should have taken him