I shudder at the idea of a BI/Markkanen/Zion/NAW lineup on defense.
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I shudder at the idea of a BI/Markkanen/Zion/NAW lineup on defense.
Basketball.
Good point but I believe NAW started to show some defensive promise. I also think they would lethal on offense. Just a fun time to be a Pels fan. Looking forward to the start of FA.Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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"we might make dollars, but we don't necessarily make sense"
"always be sincere....whether you mean it or not"
Brogdon is on a $20 million per year
If Lonzo doesn't get his $20 million. We could keep both if Lonzo is like $16 million . Should we...
I wouldn't mind. If it makes Zion happy and FA is typical where players have very little interest coming here unless we overpay grossly. I'd say just keep him. Lonzo does gives us versatility and depth even if his on ball defense is pretty non existent and his slow feet gets him cooked to the basketball. He has no business guarding elite guards. He still be an overpriced move where you're betting his potential turns this into a cheap contract. Still an easily a movable contract regardless.
Brogdon Lewis
NAW Lonzo
Ingram Naji Trey
Zion Hayes
JV Portis
Definitely can put together some versatility, but there isn't much elite half court floor general. Definitely would have a lot of coaching up to make it work.
Last edited by Taker597; 08-01-2021 at 12:36 PM.
I don't see Markannen in a deal with Ball. I would think it would be something like Satoransky or Aminu and a future pick (hopefully a protected 1st in 2025). Would prefer getting White and a pick if possible.
We have mentioned this guy's name before and he does not appear to be reliable. However, for some reason, he posts a lot about the Pelicans-
Pelicans are preparing to offer a full max to Kyle Lowry, which means Josh Hart will hit the open market, Per NBA Sources.#WeTheNorth #Wontbowdown #NBA #NBATwitter pic.twitter.com/NKzYr8Md4S
— Landon Buford (@LandonBuford) August 1, 2021
This is common sense tho. We have to give him to bag for him to come here over Philly or Miami. He still probably take a pay cut to play in Philly tho lol.
I can't remember the exact mechanics of it, but Shamit was tweeting the other day about how, because of our cap situation and the structures of sign and trades and so on, there's functionally no difference for us between paying Lowry $30m a year and paying him $36m a year. If the latter is what it takes to get him, get him - it doesn't significantly alter our flexibility going forward either way.
Found the tweets:
Something I keep trying to explain people - as long as Lowry is worked into the Memphis trade, the Pelicans' ability to make other acquisitions isn't materially changed if Lowry is making $30million or $36M.
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) August 1, 2021
It's if he's not worked in the Memphis trade you should get upset!
The 2 rookies and Naji makes Hart expendable. Hoping we can work a sign and trade and get back something of value.
The Miami Heat are picking up guard Goran Dragic’s $19.4 million team option for the 2021-22 season, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) August 1, 2021
Casts some doubt on the idea of them pursuing Lowry hard
Naji is just a better Hart in all respects
Wow..i did not see that coming
I don't think it rules it out, they still have other avenues to create space and I guess if Lowry *really* wanted to take a paycut to play there they could do a Duncan Robinson double s+t, but the feasibility of fielding both Lowry and Dragic is a bit shaky and it's not like Dragic is cheap.
As the Miami Heat create salary cap space, Toronto free agent guard Kyle Lowry remains a firm target in free agency, sources tell ESPN. Miami has more levers to pull to create space to sign Lowry outright -- or can still endeavor to work a sign-and-trade with the Raptors.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) August 1, 2021
Woj saying they are still very much interested in KL
Agreed
Sign and trade Dragic. Seems like Toronto just gonna tank this season. Kind of wild. Went from Championship to 2nd best record. Then, they got relocated and decided it was a good time to start rebuilding. The decisiveness is pretty on point.
https://theathletic.com/2744648/2021...nt/?source=rss
Guillory basically says that the Pels best option is to match the bulls offer to Zo after Lowry signs with the Mavs. We’ll also resign Josh heart and use the MLE on a player and build the team organically rather than “relying on the cap space fairy to save them”.
Seems redundant to keep both. Especially, when we are trying to not be so guard heavy rotation. Thankfully. 4 guards and Melli still haunt me.
Last edited by Taker597; 08-01-2021 at 01:43 PM.
I don't think this is gonna happen.
I guess the one thing Hart is he can be your wing player and he can be your small ball 4. He does give you lineup flexibility but I do agree it’s redundant. Naji can give u what Hart does but I honestly recall Naji playing the 4 in any lineups. Maybe he did but my memory sucks.
I would certainly hope its not going to happen.
The Lowry decision is such a huge deal leaguewide it's crazy.
If he signs with Dallas, New Orleans and Miami both have to go into scramble mode and Toronto has to fully accept that they're in a rebuild.
If he signs with Miami, New Orleans still has to scramble but Dallas is now left with a huge demand for additional playmaking and ballhandling, which probably drives up Hardaway's pricetag for them, and again, Toronto has to accept they're in a rebuild.
If he signs in New Orleans, Miami suddenly has no clear way to improve having already locked in to Dragic and Robinson now has higher leverage over them; Toronto, again, same thing.
If he stays in Toronto, New Orleans, Miami, and Dallas are all suddenly bereft.
And of course, this can extend larger: if, for example, New Orleans gets him by wrapping him into the Memphis trade then now Memphis are involved (At least on paper) etc etc.
Huge implications.
Who would have known
Marc Stein @TheSteinLine
about 7 minutes ago
Miami's status as the favorite to land Kyle Lowry was only enhanced by the decision to pick up Goran Dragic's option for next season, league sources say. A sign-and-trade with Toronto for Lowry centered around Dragic's $19.4MM deal for next season is an obvious route to a deal.
Hart misses too many way open threes
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