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I mean.... how bad does JJ need to play and how good does NAW need to play for him to get more playing time?Originally Posted by luckyman
Two games in a row NAW hits a three right off the bench... the thing JJ is supposed to be doing. Imagine if NAW wasn’t sitting for 40 minutes before getting some paying time.
I love JJ..... but you can’t hurt the team by riding him this much when he’s not producing.
You guys aren't paying attention if you think this is the first time. Made the same horrible mistake in the SA game with regard to not calling timeout. Same horrible decision with Zion in Toronto game
But we won so its all roses on the message board after those games. Which is why I keep saying to never look at the results. Those are random. Turner could have easily missed the 3, we get the rebound and win. But even with the result change, the mistake still remains. And the mistakes were there in the games before but wins blind people.
Process should always be the meat of conversations and debates. Results are random
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Watching it back, I'm being a bit harsh on Lonzo. Ingram should have come to the ball, but ultimately the coaching staff should have seen Lonzo about to get trapped and called the TO
Maybe SVG has his own coaching version of ring rust.
But these are exactly the type of avoidable mistakes we used to hang Gentry for
Also, Zion could have had a sick from behind block if he wanted it a bit more
Last edited by AusPel; 01-05-2021 at 09:33 AM.
So how does a veteran coach continually make the same mistake? Almost every coach would call TO to advance and put in the ballhandlers/FT shooters.
I agree. I don’t understand why after the first turnover when trying to advance the ball, he didn’t call a time out to settle them down and advance the ball.
For the challenge, eh. Those are extremely hard to win, and in that case, I could see the refs pointing to any contact that occurred before the player fell. And you really don’t want to blow a time out there. Of course that begs the question, why you didn’t use the time out that you possibly saved by not making the challenge.
I think you just created a job for an NBA team. Go apply somewhere as the Time Out coach.
If you Jimmer it, they will come.
This fanbase is pathetic sometimes
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I don’t get what some’s expectation is. What does a loss look like? Is there any way we don’t win the close games we’re sure to be in? A mistake here. A timeout we didn’t call. A rotation a player misses. A lineup that was left in too long. We just need to see an upward sloping graph. Like imagine the stock market. It’s up and down, but it need to be up more and more over time.
That doesn’t happen then we got problems and require a change in certain ways.
I’m not happy to see any given loss. But...a grip. Let’s get one.
He can't dribble, can't rebound, cant pass well, can't play defense, can't get into the lane and score, and as of now can't even make a shot.
He can take a charge well and draw fouls by flopping though, so he does a couple of things well I guess?
Kira and NAW taking his minutes in the Pacers game would have been ideal, but.................growing pains......................
There were a few lessons that can be gleaned from this loss. SVG is a smart guy, he'll adjust.
My issue is that people dont point out mistakes in a win. These same exact mistakes were made before but the win masks it all. Then, when it happens in a loss, its the end of the world. In most close wins and close losses, teams play about the same. The difference is luck. A call here or there. A shot that goes a half foot to the right instead of in, etc. Yet the convos, threads, etc couldnt be more opposite after a two point win vs after a three point loss. That is what is maddening to me as a process person
But this wasn't a usual type of loss. It was a colossal end of game failure you dont see often.
Saying fans shouldn't have a problem with this loss is extremely impractical. To say the least.
I agree. The OP should fire himself for starting this thread. Stan is the man!
Trust the process
he was being sarcastic
I agree, this was not just a loss, it was a loss of a game that minor logical coaching moves could have prevented.
And of course mistakes are not discussed as much when the team pulls out a win despite the mistakes.
Imagine if Ingram was fouled out
What's the team going to do then?
We only have one closer and 9 other guys standing around the perimeter
up 6 with 23 seconds left to play....
let that sink in...
Move on from it and we will be a better team. Winnable game Wednesday and Friday. I promise you a SVG appreciation thread too!
Last edited by 13 - 3; 01-05-2021 at 03:25 PM.
And what happens next matters
Dipo lived up to his name and hit a cold blooded deepo three. You can't stop that ********
Then the calamity of errors happened, most of which was avoidable
The refs were pretty awful too. Courtney Kirkland (Lebron’s friend)reffed the game go figure. Quit blaming Stan.
You're really playing the ref card. The final result of 1 game in January 2021 won't make a lick of difference to how this Pelicans team turns out long term
What matters is the decision making process in the absolute clutch, both on and off court
Last edited by AusPel; 01-05-2021 at 03:46 PM.
which is why i cant get over jj giving the ball up.....the ball was in his hands as it should be to put us up by 4 or 5 to win the game and he gave it up to lonzo...jj is a vet and could have called a timeout....
As I said, there were a calamity of errors
Get over it and move on. 2 winnable games this starting Wednesday. Trust the process.
You're the one making excuses, blaming the refs for the loss. Wins come and wins go
But you're right about analysing the team's processes
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