But I've heard Pelinki can ask the Pelicans and Hawks to push the deadline back.Originally Posted by Silver Nail
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But I've heard Pelinki can ask the Pelicans and Hawks to push the deadline back.
They can, but it's not just Pels and Hawks who are involved. Hawks already traded Solo to Memphis, so they're involved. Memphis are currently absorbing Iguodala from Golden State, so to a limited extent, they're involved.
I think it was Jeff Siegel on twitter who pointed it out, but if you follow all of the threads of every pick and player involved in this trade, there are 7 different teams involved. Lakers would have to persuade ALL of them to put their off-season on hold for them, for no reason.
Basketball.
It's funny because while yes, it would look bad for the Pels to pull out, you know what would look worse?
LA having to beg 7 different teams to change their trade deals because THEY messed up the trade timing on the Davis deal for the second time in a row after having agreed to two different dates.
There are too many teams involved at this point. It would just take 1 GM to create a domino effect. And personally, I think there are so many GMs that all of them will opt to trigger trades asap.
Kawhi will make his decision prior to trades completing if he hasn't already.
All told, I count eight teams and 21 total players affected directly by the AD trade being pushed back. Lakers, Pelicans, Wizards, Hawks, Sixers, Pistons, Grizzlies, and Jazz are all affected, as well as the attached list of players pic.twitter.com/Yera2e35yL
— Jeff Siegel (@jgsiegel) July 5, 2019
It just won't happen. The media and Laker fans wants to hype up this as a possibility but there's FAR too many teams and players involved. This type of move would absolutely burn bridges for the Lakers with half the teams in the league, maybe all the teams.
Every future trade for the next 20 years would force the Lakers into a disadvantage where they will have to give up more due to no teams trusting them.
The Lakers have TWICE agreed to a July 6th date. Once with the Pelicans and again when they added Washington to the trade. Anyone thinking they will try and change the date at the last possible hour is crazy. It's something that would cause the league to step in. It would cause sweeping ramifications for rule changes due to how poorly this would be handled. It'd just plain open up a huge can that the league doesn't want to deal with.
You hit the nail on the head here. There are way too many teams/moves involved for them to back out now. If they made other teams wait, they would open a can of worms that would force the league to intervene.
When we're talking about pushing the deadline back, we're talking 24 - 48 hours. The Pelicans and Hawks would probably do that since these front office folks all probably know each other. Just like how the Wizards accepted the Lakers trash so they could open that $32 mil, with no real benefit to the Wizards.
What makes you think that? We have no indication that Kawhi is on the verge of giving his instruction. When Lebron made the decision to go to Miami, he didn't announce it until July 10th.
What happens if the deadline DOES get pushed back 48 hours, to the 8th, and then by then Kawhi still hasn't made a decision? Pelinka gets back on the phones to beg and plead and cry for ANOTHER 48 hours?
No. LA negotiated the trade. They agreed twice, on two separate occasions, on the 6th. As far as the Pelicans, Hawks, Grizzlies, Sixers, Jazz, Pistons, and Wizards are concerned, anything beyond that is Los Angeles' problem, not theirs.
What happens if the Lakers back out of the deal completely?
Has that ever happened?
Wouldn't they be blackballed basically?
Yes.
They won't. They can't. Could you imagine them going from having Lebron, AD, Kawhi, to Kawhi not going and then AD not being traded so it'd be just Lebron again....
Let's be clear: The NBA simply would not allow the Lakers to cancel the Anthony Davis trade if the Pelicans don't agree to move the date if Kawhi delays his decision. Period.
— Machine Pun Kelly (@KellyScaletta) July 5, 2019
I figured that, but I just wanted to make sure that the Lakers don't have some loophole BS they can use.
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If you Jimmer it, they will come.
Sources: Washington has traded Dwight Howard to Memphis.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 6, 2019
The rare actual personnel move
Dwight Howard to Memphis
The Grizzlies are trading CJ Miles to Washington for Dwight Howard, league source tells ESPN. Deal saves Memphis $3.1M. Grizzles will waive or trade Howard, per source.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 6, 2019
The Memphis Grizzlies are planning to waive eight-time All-Star Dwight Howard, league sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 6, 2019
Dwight teamless again
Grizz aren’t finished. Per source, they have waived veteran SG Avery Bradley. His 2019-20 salary ($12.9M) would have been guaranteed last Thursday. Memphis will have to pay Bradley his $2M guaranteed for next year. Grizz continue to get further below the cap line for more moves.
— David Aldridge (@davidaldridgedc) July 6, 2019
Grizz keeping it moving
shiiiit I might think about Bradley off the bench that's just crazy too me do was good especially on D what happened
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He left Boston and stunk ever since.
Last year in Boston: 16 points and 6 assists, 46% from the floor and 39% from three. -3 net rating, 14.4 PER, .081 ws/48, -0.5 BPM, 0.7 VORP
Two seasons since: 12 points and 2 assists, 41% from the floor and 35% from three. -18 net rating, 8.5 PER, .002 WS/48, -3.4 BPM, -1.2 VORP
Just fell off a cliff. Not like he was on terrible teams either, he spent some time on an okay-ish Detroit team and then played 55 games for a pretty damn good Clipper team.
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Why did ESPN's ticker say we were cooperating with the Lakers delaying the trade? Uh. No. Why? Why would we do that? What do we get out of it?
I haven't seen that reported anywhere else.
Well, looking at Zion walk. Looks like there’s zero issues.
The league has rules. Both the Pelicans and Lakers acted in good faith by stipulating the closing date of the Anthony Davis transaction be July, 6, 2019. If the league, at this point, would attempt to redefine the transaction to accommodate the Lakers (give favor to the Lakers), the system, at the highest levels, is rigged. If the Lakers and Leonard can't get together, with both parties fully aware of the July 6th closing deadline, that's on them....not the Pelicans, Hawks, Jazz, Grizzlies or any other party on the periphery who played by the rules. The league ought not cover for the incompetence of Rob Pelinka.
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