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I like Culver. I been zoning on Culver, and Garland lately and need to look at other prospects. I don't like the idea of trading 4th pick away for a player unless it includes a swap. I don't mind trading down with the 3rd pick for future picks. I would be all for packaging late round traded picks to get back in the late top 10.Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
It's a fun draft, because I know at least 2 players from 4-12 is gonna be great. Just don't know who lol
Maybe those ESPN guys got it confused. Maybe we are trying to get Justin Holiday?
That’s my guy, 7th on my big board
Im definitely a fan of Claxton, although I have him going late first round or maybe early second. Bunch of reasons for that: he's a little older, can't shoot the three, wasn't massively efficient inside, was kind of meh defensively a lot of the time. But there definitely is a lot to like. There's a confidence and a smoothness to his game, and he's a legitimate rim protector with decent hands for a big. If he falls to us in the second round, which I think is plausible, I'd be pretty happy to take him.
Can't speak too much on Thybulle. I haven't watched as much of him in detail as I should. His offense isn't very encouraging, especially given that he can't shoot, but his FT%age is encouraging. He's not a rebounder or a passer, which is a big shame, because his length is fantastic for his height and he has solid defensive instincts. He's not the team defender that his stats would imply, and I think that will limit him in the NBA, but he has a pretty strong ceiling as a late first round pick as a defensive specialist.
Basketball.
ESPN Sources: The Washington Wizards are preparing to make a prolific offer to Toronto's championship architect Masai Ujiri -- as much as $10M annually -- to run its basketball operations. https://t.co/KQf18YUkLN
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 14, 2019
Good news today! Thank you Toronto!
New: Sources say the Celtics’ confidence in bringing back Kyrie Irving has eroded, but the Anthony Davis pursuit rolls on: https://t.co/0Ixb4bCH4R
— Adam Himmelsbach (@AdamHimmelsbach) June 14, 2019
Ainge,
“We made a risk by trading for Kyrie, and no matter what happens with Kyrie, I’ll never regret that. You just move on to the next deal.”
Someone talk! Ainge is not backing down, has no regrets. This is great news for us! Isn’t it?
They didn't give much for Kyrie. This is different. They have to give up real assets.
It is, is very good news.
It's pretty much why I've been saying for months. And I wasn't saying it because I thought it would be fun: I've been saying it because Ainge has been interviewed time and time again, and his message has been the same: for the right player, he will make the deal. He's not going to do something if he thinks it will cripple his franchise, but he's happy to take risks.
We've had rumour after rumour, some from good Boston reporters like Bulpett and others from guys like Shams as recently as a few days ago telling us that Ainge STILL wants AD, and is ''aggressively pursuing'' him. There has been ZERO good reason to assume that Boston are out of the race.
And as long as Ainge is still interested, the floor of the deal is still high.
Read the article. They are ready for war with Lakers
https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...X4N/story.html
Nothing's changed. This is what's been said all along. The Celtics are going after Davis regardless. The Kyrie situation might affect the offer, but there will be an offer.
Also, the Ainge quote above is a week old. It was in the context of "We're not afraid to take risks." The only thing that's new is that reliable writers like Bulpett and Himmelsbach are reporting that the Celtics' hopes of re-signing Kyrie have diminished but not vanished.
I couldn't agree more. Again, I think he's gonna be the steal of the draft. Everyone is comparing him to Siakam, but he can be so much more. He's already a great defender, a good shooter and he works harder than anyone. He was a really poor shooter 10 months ago and became very reliable. Just take a look at his pro day :
I would love to see him grow into an All star alongside Zion... Just have to find a way to get him which seems pretty complicated...
It's true. Zizic, Crowder and injured Isaiah probably don't add up to all that much, so the only real value given for Kyrie was the 8th pick.
Davis will cost a lot more in both picks and players, but it doesn't sound like they'll offer the whole arsenal.
It’s better than the dumpster fire Lakers are offering
Yeah. And I'll preface this by saying I'm probably the most draft ignorant chap on this board. I don't watch college basketball, film.....really I just pick up tidbits from you guys. But I like this dude. He akunss like the guy you get if you have time for him to develop. Which we probably will.
Good positive energy.
But also, yo mama's fat.
The logic is that if you get drafted by the Lakers. They must be great. They're just young lol.
If the Lakers are willing to abandon their long term future and trying to win now. It doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in their assests.
They speak into existence something that is a complete farce.
Ohhh... Nice.
I like Doumbouya, but this image of him as a sure-fire future all-star is a bit weird, to me. He does have that potential, but it's not like there aren't clear holes in his game.
For example, he's 6'9 with a 6'11 wingspan. That makes him the tallest player in this draft with a sub 7'0'' wingspan. Is that a killer? No, of course not, but it's kind of a downside when people compare him to Siakam. One of Siakam's obvious strengths is that he's lengthy, toolsy. Siakam is 6'8 with a 7'3 wingspan: Doumbouya doesn't have anything like that kind of length to him.
His game just isn't very well developed as of right now. He's not very good at rebounding, on either end of the floor. He's not a natural or instinctive passer, he hasn't shown great shooting from range, he isn't stunningly efficient inside, he's not a remarkable FT shooter. His biggest strength is his age: he's one of the youngest guys in this draft and won't turn 19 until several months into the season. So obviously there's a ton of upside there, but it's definitely a gamble. He hasn't shown anything yet that makes you think ''wow, that guy's a star''. Most people have him generally going somewhere between 10th and 20th in this draft, and I think that's totally fair.
If I was trying to pick that SF/PF tweener guy who can play defense, I'd pick Okeke over Doumbouya, for sure.
Bruh, how many games of his have you seen?
Also, I'm gonna jinx us: no deal will get done today cause Danny Ainge is at the golf tournament.
Me? A few, couldn't tell you exactly how many. Probably 5 or so.
I'm not saying he sucks or anything, he doesn't. I'm just saying his big strength right now is his physicality, his build, his strength, and his age, because his actual skillset isn't fantastically varied or deep right now. Which is fine, cause he's 18 years old. It just means drafting him is a bit more of a gamble than drafting some other guys. If you're fine with that, cool.
Jrue can be traded if the price is right. And his value is at it's peak right now because a team knows they have him for at least 2 more years at what has become a very reasonable contract. And I say this as a HUGE Jrue fan! I want the Pelicans to keep him! But I also want the Pelicans to absolutely not make anyone other than Zion untradeable at this point.
I agree that we need vet leadership, but that can come from a variety of places and on cheaper deals. A lot of teams will have cap space this summer, and a lot teams will either have to overpay for one of the non elite guys on the market, or trading for a guy like Jrue might make sense for them.
Pacers could offer Sabonis/18 and a future pick.
Orlando could offer Fultz/Gordon/16 and a future pick.
Charlotte would probably do Monk/Bridges/Batum/12 and a future pick.
Miami could offer Dragic/Richardson/13.
I'm not saying that's an exhausting or well thought out list, or that all or any of the above would be good deals. But I'm sure teams have interest in Jrue and I'm sure Griff could find a package worth considering if he decided to engage.
That's the key. Thus far he has spoken like someone that is not intending on engaging.
Have you seen many of his games?
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