The Empire Strikes Back

[UNO Gracias]

We just lost a nationally televised game. I’m not sure why (other than we aren’t playing AD as the NBA wants us to).

[PELICANSFAN]

Because a team that is not playing well and not consistently playing its star is likely not a big draw.

[DroopyDawg]

They don't want the nation to see AD sitting on the bench in the 4th quarter. I guess.

[13 - 3]

Pay Randle!

[AusPel]

Pay Randle!

Are you Randle's agent

[13 - 3]

Are you Randle's agent

You don’t think he is an asset right now? He has come a long way. Time to make him our new leader.

[AusPel]

You don’t think he is an asset right now? He has come a long way. Time to make him our new leader.

Come along way from California? Maybe

He's out of contract so he's not a trade asset, and he's basically a net negative with his lack of defense. One of the most gifted scorers in the NBA, I'll give you that.

But I think he's a pretty good scoring punch guy off the bench. If someone else wants to give him 15-20 per, go right ahead. I won't miss him

Jrue is the captain

[13 - 3]

Come along way from California? Maybe

He's out of contract so he's not a trade asset, and he's basically a net negative with his lack of defense. One of the most gifted scorers in the NBA, I'll give you that.

But I think he's a pretty good scoring punch guy off the bench. If someone else wants to give him 15-20 per, go right ahead. I won't miss him

Nobody playing defense in the NBA right now. Brought up several times during ESPN broadcast. If anything blame the person coaching that defense. Give him the extension.

[AusPel]

Nobody playing defense in the NBA right now. Brought up several times during ESPN broadcast. If anything blame the person coaching that defense.

The treasured players are playing defense. Giannis, Gobert, George, Covington, Jrue to name but a few. Embiid. Smart people realise their worth to the team

[UNO Gracias]

There have been plenty of trash basketball teams getting nationally televised games (some because they are in big markets, some because they have a star player, in this case we might not have either). I just think it’s odd we are losing a nationally televised game after the NBA’s threats towards this team.

[13 - 3]

There have been plenty of trash basketball teams getting nationally televised games (some because they are in big markets, some because they have a star player, in this case we might not have either). I just think it’s odd we are losing a nationally televised game after the NBA’s threats towards this team.

You liked listening to Isiah Thomas? That was probably going to be your announcer vs Bucks.

[Pelicanidae]

Nobody playing defense in the NBA right now. Brought up several times during ESPN broadcast. If anything blame the person coaching that defense. Give him the extension.

Think about that.

Nobody is playing defense in the league, and Randle is STILL bad enough on defense that it stands out.

[msusousaphone]

He's just baiting you, at this point.

[13 - 3]

How is it baiting? Randle’s productivity has greatly improved. As for bad defending? Look at Lebron https://sports.yahoo.com/lebron-jame...145919620.html

So Lebron has one good game defensively on us but it has been on the decline.

[Mythrol]

How is it baiting? Randle’s productivity has greatly improved. As for bad defending? Look at Lebron https://sports.yahoo.com/lebron-jame...145919620.html

So Lebron has one good game defensively on us but it has been on the decline.

Lebron got paid because he is Lebron. If your argument for paying Randle big money is based around, "but look how much Lebron is getting paid" then you're doing it wrong.

[13 - 3]

Lebron got paid because he is Lebron. If your argument for paying Randle big money is based around, "but look how much Lebron is getting paid" then you're doing it wrong.

No I was talking about Lebron being a bad defender.

[Mythrol]

No I was talking about Lebron being a bad defender.

Is that justification for overpaying Randle?

[13 - 3]

Is that justification for overpaying Randle?

How would we be overpaying Randle? This is not a Seldom Hill situation.

[Mythrol]

How would we be overpaying Randle? This is not a Seldom Hill situation.

This is like talking to a brick wall.

[13 - 3]

This is like talking to a brick wall.

Tell me why you would not? Pelicanidae was not opposed to paying Randle just not as much. I can agree there, but I can’t agree just because his defense is not the best we should kick him the curb. The Holiday/Randle combination is working. Don’t ruin a good thing.

[Tinman]

Tell me why you would not? Pelicanidae was not opposed to paying Randle just not as much. I can agree there, but I can’t agree just because his defense is not the best we should kick him the curb. The Holiday/Randle combination is working. Don’t ruin a good thing.

If we pay Randle more than 13-15, we're nuts. Which is possible.
Randle would have to opt out for us to pay him more than 10ish.
And I have a feeling that there will be a team that will over reach & over pay. Probably get 18 mill. I would then put my arm in the air, Palm forward & move hand left to right & repeat .

[Pelicans78]

Based on the advanced metrics and with the salary cap around $109 million next season, both Jrue and Randle are worth about $19 million per season meaning Randle may get more.


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[SmontySwilliams]

I came here for a league argument, this is randle abuse.

Anyway, League is clearly being petty. I'd be losing my mind if I owned this team...

[Pelicans78]

That’s based on win shares but if you look at VORP then Jrue is worth about 25-26 million and Randle is around 15 million.


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[Pelicans78]

I think 4 years/$76 million with a first year starting salary of $16.5 million is an ok deal for a guy like Randle who's young and has improved every single season in his career.