Our 2nd round pick info&thoughts

https://www.nola.com/pelicans/2019/0...ond-round.html

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The Pelicans are picking No. 39 instead of 37 because of a tiebreaker. New Orleans ended up with the worst of three picks along with Dallas and Memphis because it went it reverse order of how the teams pick in the first round – New Orleans at No. 1, Memphis at No. 2 and Dallas at No. 10.

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Here’s a look at what some sports sites are predicting for the Pelicans’ two second-round choices.

The Athletic – Sam Vecenie

No. 39 – Shamorie Ponds, St. John’s, point guard

No. 57 – Jontay Porter, Missouri, center

The Athletic – Michael Scotto

No. 39 – Louis King, Oregon, small forward

No. 57 – Dedric Lawson, Kansas, forward

NBADraft.net

No. 39 – Dylan Windler, Belmont, wing* (NBADraft.net hasn’t changed Pelicans to No. 39)

No. 57 – Jalen Lecque, Brewster Academy, guard

Tankathon

No. 39 – Carsen Edwards, Purdue, point guard

No. 57 – Josh Reaves, Penn State, shooting guard

NBA Draft Room

No. 39 – Tacko Fall, UCF, center

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If Taco Fall is there with our 2nd pick we gotta take him. Not high on him but his potential as a big off the bench and matchup problem off the bench similar to Bogdan would be huge. I think he’s going to be a late 1st round pick but I would love to snag him in the 2nd.

It’s nice to know there is a chance we could pick someone worth a damn now that Dell Demps, the worst GM in the entire NBA is finally gone.

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Originally Posted by studentofthegam

It’s nice to know there is a chance we could pick someone worth a damn now that Dell Demps, the worst GM in the entire NBA is finally gone.

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Really? Worse than whoever is picking for the New York Knicks, which may just be Dolan? I mean, they traded away friggin' Kristaps Porzingis for no real reason.

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Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25

If Taco Fall is there with our 2nd pick we gotta take him. Not high on him but his potential as a big off the bench and matchup problem off the bench similar to Bogdan would be huge. I think he’s going to be a late 1st round pick but I would love to snag him in the 2nd.

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Has to be Tacko or King for me

Man, I really want Carsen Edwards. He's pretty one dimensional offensively, but he's probably one of the best scorers in the draft IMO.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Really? Worse than whoever is picking for the New York Knicks, which may just be Dolan? I mean, they traded away friggin' Kristaps Porzingis for no real reason.

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Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving go to NY it might now be a different story.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Has to be Tacko or King for me

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Tacko is literally just freakishly tall. He has no post moves, is slow, bad feet, terrible vision and poor conditioning. The dude wasn’t even a good college player.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

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Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving go to NY it might now be a different story.

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Yep. That and I think they wanted assets they could trade to us. Porzingus made it clear he didn’t want to come here

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Originally Posted by studentofthegam

Tacko is literally just freakishly tall. He has no post moves, is slow, bad feet, terrible vision and poor conditioning. The dude wasn’t even a good college player.

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You draft the freaks, athletes and scorers this late in the draft. Let the NBA trainers make their money here.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

You draft the freaks, athletes and scorers this late in the draft. Let the NBA trainers make their money here.

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It's not even true. He's slow, sure, but his feet are actually a lot better than you'd expect from a 7'7 player. Take that as a backhanded compliment if you like. He was a good offensive rebounder and excellent rim protector. His issues were clear: absolutely no range on his shot, not a great passer, but to act like he just stands there being 7'7 and does nothing else is absurd.

How many of those 2nds from the Niko trade would it take to move up and get Bol Bol? I suspect he's going to fall to the later 1st due to his weight.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

How many of those 2nds from the Niko trade would it take to move up and get Bol Bol? I suspect he's going to fall to the later 1st due to his weight.

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What do we have, total? We have 39 and 57 in this draft, Washington and Milwaukee's 2nds in 2020, and Washington's in 2021.

Would probably cost us both second rounders this year, at least.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

It's not even true. He's slow, sure, but his feet are actually a lot better than you'd expect from a 7'7 player. Take that as a backhanded compliment if you like. He was a good offensive rebounder and excellent rim protector. His issues were clear: absolutely no range on his shot, not a great passer, but to act like he just stands there being 7'7 and does nothing else is absurd.

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People are entitled to their opinions, but every time I hear “this prospect moves like a cement truck, can’t jump over an ant” yada yada they tend to be wrong. You can’t teach size. In the second round, it isn’t really a gamble.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

People are entitled to their opinions, but every time I hear “this prospect moves like a cement truck, can’t jump over an ant” yada yada they tend to be wrong. You can’t teach size. In the second round, it isn’t really a gamble.

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He's not going to win any 100m dash races in the near future, and he doesn't have a 40 inch vertical, but when you can dunk with both feet on the floor you don't need to have much vert at all. Fall has some legitimate skills, and it just annoys me that some people are so blinded by the height of certain players that they refuse to actually evaluate their skillset.

''Oh, he's 7'7 so he must just be some huge lumbering idiot'', get out of here with that lol

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

He's not going to win any 100m dash races in the near future, and he doesn't have a 40 inch vertical, but when you can dunk with both feet on the floor you don't need to have much vert at all. Fall has some legitimate skills, and it just annoys me that some people are so blinded by the height of certain players that they refuse to actually evaluate their skillset.

''Oh, he's 7'7 so he must just be some huge lumbering idiot'', get out of here with that lol

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Exactly. They don’t actually evaluate the player. They make a sweeping statement and leave in the middle of the night.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Exactly. They don’t actually evaluate the player. They make a sweeping statement and leave in the middle of the night.

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It's not even like they couldn't find real stuff to criticise if they tried. Fall shot 36% from the free throw line this season. That's god awful, and appalling beyond belief. If you wanna criticise something, talk about that. Or about the fact that for a guy who averages so few assists, he turns it over quite a lot. Talk about the fact that he can't shoot outside of about 5 feet - man's got that Ben Simmons range.

I hate saying this because some people on this board use it as a lazy way of dismissing criticism, but sometimes you can really tell when someone just hasn't watched the player they're talking about. 99% of the time when someone says ''oh you haven't watched them play'', they're being stupid and trying to dodge legit criticism with it, but that 1% exists.

Well fell from 37 to 39?

Our future is doomed :crytear:

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

It's not even like they couldn't find real stuff to criticise if they tried. Fall shot 36% from the free throw line this season. That's god awful, and appalling beyond belief. If you wanna criticise something, talk about that. Or about the fact that for a guy who averages so few assists, he turns it over quite a lot. Talk about the fact that he can't shoot outside of about 5 feet - man's got that Ben Simmons range.

I hate saying this because some people on this board use it as a lazy way of dismissing criticism, but sometimes you can really tell when someone just hasn't watched the player they're talking about. 99% of the time when someone says ''oh you haven't watched them play'', they're being stupid and trying to dodge legit criticism with it, but that 1% exists.

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i just hope somebody takes him ffs. It would be hilarious to see a tippy toe dunk

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

i just hope somebody takes him ffs. It would be hilarious to see a tippy toe dunk

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In the real world you have this thing called defense though

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Originally Posted by AusPel

In the real world you have this thing called defense though

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I never said it would be a legal dunk :hihi:

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

What do we have, total? We have 39 and 57 in this draft, Washington and Milwaukee's 2nds in 2020, and Washington's in 2021.

Would probably cost us both second rounders this year, at least.

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Yeah I'd assume we could probably combine both 2nds this year and maybe that Washington 2021 2nd and get our way into the early 20s. Maybe throw some cash in there too.

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Originally Posted by AusPel

In the real world you have this thing called defense though

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I watched the Suns play this year, you can't lie to me.

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Originally Posted by studentofthegam

It’s nice to know there is a chance we could pick someone worth a damn now that Dell Demps, the worst GM in the entire NBA is finally gone.

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Thats not even close to being true. This is worse than hyperbole.

Griff will save us!

https://www.nola.com/lsu/2019/05/jav...ns-to-lsu.html

Javonte Smart withdraws from Draft. Going back to LSU

Carsen Edwards! Lou Williams 2.0. The kid can shoot it like Steph Curry. But just like Lou he’s a shooting guard in a point guards body.

Either Tennessee player would be nice. If we trade AD and need another power forward I like Grant Williams. He’s undersized, but could be a Draymond Green type of 4. If we need a 3 then I like Admiral Schofield as well.

I like Taco Fall as well. The dude has some skill for being that tall. He’s not a stick like most players that size. His teammate at UCF Aubrey Dawkins is a player I like.

Auburn’s Chuma Okeke would of been a 1st without a doubt until the injury in the final 4. He will be out the year, but value is there in the 2nd.

Louis King from Oregon is a small forward I like a ton as well. Great shot and athletic.

If Naz Reid makes it thats the guy I want. A center that can handle the ball and shoot it from deep

People say this is a mediocre draft, but I think it’s pretty decent.

I’d find a way to get 5 seconds. I know everyone would freak out but we need to build our G-league team. The way I’d try to get them is I’d take Boston’s late picks and trade down with the Sixers and Nets to get their early 2nds.

With the early pick I’m taking Okeke and if not him whichever good player drops like porter or Reid
Sixers 2 picks I’m looking for Naz Reid, Okpala (I’ve seen him go everywhere), or Obiesie
Our pick grab Bazley
And our last pick either Mokoka, Guy, or Oni

If anyone impresses they can either make the 2 way roster and if not the go to G-league or IR (Okeke). Most of the guys I’m looking at are 6’5-6’9 to build our wings. I think bigs are a dime a dozen but good wings are tough to find. I like the idea of throwing a lot of darts to find one that fits.