"What are the Pelicans getting in Zion Williamson? NBA scouts believe reality doesn't match the hype ... yet"
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/w...-the-hype-yet/
Lots of video clips of his ability to block shots.
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05-15-2019, 09:26 PMP_B_&_GNot all of the news is negative, great article on Zion's potential
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05-15-2019, 09:31 PMPelicanidae
Will Zion be an all-NBA calibre player his first year? Probably not. He might be an all-star just off hype as long as he has a solid season, but not all-NBA. That's not the point.
The question is, CAN he meet the hype in like, 3 years or so? I believe the answer is yes. -
05-16-2019, 07:41 AMRobertM320Agreed. I think AD has produced so long, we tend to forget his first season. He averaged 13.5 PPG, 8.2 RPG, and 1.0 APG. Compare that to 25.9/12.0/3.9 this past season, when he wasn't even trying. Lets hope we don't have our expectations for Zion too high the very first season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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05-16-2019, 02:29 PMPelicanidaeExactly. Although I do think that AD came into the league with a much smaller offensive game than Zion has. With AD, we all knew he had real talent but very few people saw him being a damn near 30 point scorer. His ability to add skills and progress is really very impressive. Zion is coming into the league with a lot more of a polished offensive skillset.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertM320
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05-17-2019, 04:42 AMAusPel
And by all reports he's the hardest worker on the floor
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05-18-2019, 04:15 PMJunkHead
Question for anyone who knows more than me...
How much, if any, could Zion's body change over the first couple of years in the NBA?
I mean, he's 6'7, 285lbs, and not even 19 y/o yet.
So technically, he could still grow and inch or two right? And I'm sure the team would get him on a nutritional plan to help with the weight. Could you imagine this guy at 6'9 and about 260 lbs?
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05-18-2019, 04:27 PMKevinDavis1022I really think he has one more spurt in him. Some people in here said he was next R.J. Barrett at the lottery and he was actually taller. So 6'9" is definitely possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkHead
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05-18-2019, 04:29 PMKevinDavis1022
Not to mention any team is gonna tell him to lose weight. I could see 260.
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05-18-2019, 04:44 PMPelicanidaeI was saying that a lot. I really feel that he's probably 6'9. I wouldn't be surprised if that ended up being his real height.Quote:
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Just a reminder as well that if you have strength, bulk, and the know-how, height isn't the be all and end all for a big man. Refer to 6'6'' Charles Barkley for proof. -
05-18-2019, 04:57 PMPelicanidae
Zion's Synergy page, as of this morning. pic.twitter.com/0e0Miub4UZ
— TS% Eliot (@Cosmis) April 1, 2019
Stats from April 1st, so fairly late in the season. Lets you get a decent look at Zion's game broken down. Looks pretty encouraging :hihi:
Oh, here's his defense pic.twitter.com/dHRD5LGAkD
— TS% Eliot (@Cosmis) April 1, 2019
And there's his defensive stats. Not quite as universally excellent as his offensive stats, but still very good. -
05-18-2019, 05:13 PMTinmanIf you've got 22:45 seconds to spare - You have got to watch "Stephen A Smith reacts to Knicks get 3rd overall pick in NBA Draft Lottery". I am NOT a Smith fan, but this is PURE Comedy Gold. The first 15 minutes are absolutely gut crunchingly funny . He is in a light blue shirt on his show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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05-18-2019, 05:18 PMPelicanidaeI'll get around to it at some point. I watched his reaction in his car that was filmed a few minutes after the lottery itself. It's amazing. It's dark, he's clearly torn up, just talking to himself in his car, and it's incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinman
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05-18-2019, 05:26 PMTinmanIf you liked that, you will need a diaper for this. I promise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
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05-18-2019, 09:56 PMMythrol
https://youtu.be/6tWO6tuhDHE
Worth a watch. Very enjoyable for a Pelicans fan. Just post the Southpark clip of Cartman licking tears. -
05-18-2019, 09:59 PMTinmanWas that not comedic GOLD. I've watched that clip a dozen times today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
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05-18-2019, 10:01 PMPelicanidaeI think part of what makes this rant so enjoyable is how empty he is. His voice is going up and down and his face just looks empty and dead for most of it. There's this surreal contrast between audio and visual. It's very strange, and very effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
I love this moment though, this moment which exposes so much of the nonsense in the media. He says ''far be it from me to think that the NBA would be like, 'hey, I know we're a global iconic brand, but we only get bigger if New York gets large.''
What?!?! Has this man been WATCHING the NBA for the last 20 years? New York have been less than irrelevant for like 17 of the last 19 years. Just a complete non-factor. And the league is bigger than it's ever been, richer than it's ever been, more viewed than it's ever been worldwide. The success of the New York Knicks could not be LESS relevant to the NBA's overall success as a brand. What the hell is he talking about?! -
05-18-2019, 10:02 PMPelicanidae
Also,
''The New Orleans Pelicans, who are run by football people, or at least once upon a time they were!''
Shut up Stephen. NY is still run by James Dolan. -
05-18-2019, 10:07 PMTinman"If you are not a Knick fan, you make me sick! I don't like any a yuz, any a yuz! Today is a laughing day for all a yuz, all a yuz".Quote:
Originally Posted by Pelicanidae
Priceless. I was laughing uncontrollably when he was saying it! -
05-18-2019, 10:10 PMMythrolIt was, yeah. What makes it so great is the fact that even though he's playing up his feelings as part of a bit, you know deep down he is coming from a real place with this. There's a seed of truth for all of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinman
It makes it even sweeter that we're the ones who took Zion from him. -
05-18-2019, 10:12 PMPelicanidaeIt makes me laugh that the New Orleans Pelicans, despite all of their problems and mistakes, have had 7 seasons with a record that's .500 or better. They've only existed since 2002-3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinman
The Knicks have only 4 seasons with a .500 record or better since 2000.
The Pelicans have made the playoffs 3 times since 2010. The Knicks, once. IN THE EAST!!!
The Pelicans have won 61 more games than the New York Knicks since 2000, despite not EXISTING for multiple seasons at the beginning of that time.
The Knicks really are the most pathetic franchise in basketball! -
05-18-2019, 10:14 PMTinman"If you are a Knick fan today, it's the equivalent of being kidnapped, locked in a basement ,being tortured, & then they let you out when you're of no use to anyone"Quote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
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05-18-2019, 10:32 PMMount Zion
The only things sweeter than Knicks fans crying are the tears of Lakers and Sixers fans. Sorry, I grew up in the 60s, so I have disliked these teams for a long, long time.
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05-18-2019, 10:51 PMMount ZionI'm just laughing and cheesing it. :ez_laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinman