How many Thank you calls will David Griffin get from Lebron tonight for the AD Trade

Griffin should be fired as soon as the Lakers lift the title. It pisses me off.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Griffin should be fired as soon as the Lakers lift the title. It pisses me off.

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But I thought everyone loved Ingram,Ball and Hart?

Wait, what?

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

But I thought everyone loved Ingram,Ball and Hart?

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Those guys won’t even be on this team in 2-3 years.

Not to mention those weak draft picks we picked up that won’t mean anything.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Those guys won’t even be on this team in 2-3 years.

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We can only trust the process. Davis was leaving for Lakers . At least we got something in return.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

We can only trust the process. Davis was leaving for Lakers . At least we got something in return.

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Let him leave on his own time. Atleast Golden st would’ve been healthy enough to stop them next year.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Wait, what?

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Their take is legitimately that we should have just let AD walk for nothing rather than ''help'' LA by sending him there.

Legitimately nonsense.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Griffin should be fired as soon as the Lakers lift the title. It pisses me off.

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What would you have done given the situation? Just Curious.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

What would you have done given the situation? Just Curious.

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Not give in to his or Lebron demands. There were reports of other teams willing to take that risk at trade time. He helped his old lebron. Let him go on his own time . Don’t tell me about those late draft picks or players that won’t be on this team in 3 years.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Not give in to his or Lebron demands. There were reports of other teams willing to take that risk at trade time. He helped his old lebron. Let him go on his own time . Don’t tell me about those late draft picks or players that won’t be on this team in 3 years.

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So you don't think much of the five players we already have (never mind what the future holds) resulting from the trade. I can accept that. You're dead wrong...but I can accept that.

I knew we were gonna enter cope seeth mode.

Who caaaaaares. NBA sucks.

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Originally Posted by As I See It

So you don't think much of the five players we already have (never mind what the future holds) resulting from the trade. I can accept that. You're dead wrong...but I can accept that.

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Lol Man you don’t even believe in the players we got back. Hart and ball are already involved in trade discussions.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Lol Man you don’t even believe in the players we got back. Hart and ball are already involved in trade discussions.

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What are you drinking?

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Lol Man you don’t even believe in the players we got back. Hart and ball are already involved in trade discussions.

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That's how the game is played, Clarence. They are assets before they are players...always were...always will be.

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

What are you drinking?

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Those guys won’t even be in this team in 3 years. We have too many guards on this team and ball and hart will be gone. We will see in the off-season about Ingram.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Those guys won’t even be in this team in 3 years. We have too many guards on this team and ball and hart will be gone. We will see in the off-season about Ingram.

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I’m thinking you may have a bad gambling problem if you are still upset

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

I’m thinking you may have a bad gambling problem if you are still upset

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Why do I have to have a gambling problem or drinking anything to be upset about tonight? This should ******** every *Real day 1 Hornets / Pelicans * Fan off. We just contributed to this ********. Our Gm is friends with lebron and they finessed us and we have in to their demands. God I miss Mr Benson smh. Ms benson is too nice and she will wait a couple years too late for everything from the saints and the pelicans. Gentry should’ve been gone a couple years ago. A lot of people on this forum wouldn’t see a robbery if it happened in their face. We have a guard heavy team and we don’t have any type of players who play the 3 that can guard the likes of a Paul George or lebron type of player. We put undersized guards on those guys. I’m happy that gentry is gone now that Griffin won’t have any excuses and Ms benson can see where the problem is.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Why do I have to have a gambling problem or drinking anything to be upset about tonight? This should ******** every *Real day 1 Hornets / Pelicans * Fan off. We just contributed to this ********. Our Gm is friends with lebron and they finessed us and we have in to their demands. God I miss Mr Benson smh. Ms benson is too nice and she will wait a couple years too late for everything from the saints and the pelicans. Gentry should’ve been gone a couple years ago. A lot of people on this forum wouldn’t see a robbery if it happened in their face. We have a guard heavy team and we don’t have any type of players who play the 3 that can guard the likes of a Paul George or lebron type of player. We put undersized guards on those guys. I’m happy that gentry is gone now that Griffin won’t have any excuses and Ms benson can see where the problem is.

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It honestly isn't that serious, dude. Very little of what you're saying makes any sense. You're upset, you're allowed to be, that's fine, but if you were less wound up you'd see that what you're saying is ridiculous. You won't listen to me because you're annoyed, but I recommend you stop getting mad about this and go spend some time doing something you enjoy.

Lavar Ball was wrong. The Lakers won a championship. He said they would never win one ever again. Lol


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I hate the Lakers and it's worse since LeBron joined them, but AtlPelsFan, I hope you don't give yourself a heart attack over this. It's just not that serious. After New Orleans was eliminated, I could at least enjoy a couple of teams and pull for them, but when Boston was taken out, I haven't watched another game. Haven't missed it either. We all knew the likeliest outcome was the Lakers beating the Heat (I thought they would win in a sweep), so I don't know what there is to be so upset about.

I understand if you liked AD and hated that he went to the Lakers. I did too. But I believe that the Lakers' offer was the best out there and Griffin did the right thing in moving him. Whether the players and picks end up being long term pieces for the Pelicans really doesn't matter either. Moving AD was inevitable and the assets the Pelicans acquired could set the team up to be a much more competitive franchise than if they had held him until he walked.

It may be a reflection of the kind of people we are, but I would rather be thankful for what the team has now and look to the future of the organization than to look back with longing over a time that actually wasn't all that great.

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I hate the Lakers and it's worse since LeBron joined them, but AtlPelsFan, I hope you don't give yourself a heart attack over this. It's just not that serious. After New Orleans was eliminated, I could at least enjoy a couple of teams and pull for them, but when Boston was taken out, I haven't watched another game. Haven't missed it either. We all knew the likeliest outcome was the Lakers beating the Heat (I thought they would win in a sweep), so I don't know what there is to be so upset about.

I understand if you liked AD and hated that he went to the Lakers. I did too. But I believe that the Lakers' offer was the best out there and Griffin did the right thing in moving him. Whether the players and picks end up being long term pieces for the Pelicans really doesn't matter either. Moving AD was inevitable and the assets the Pelicans acquired could set the team up to be a much more competitive franchise than if they had held him until he walked.

It may be a reflection of the kind of people we are, but I would rather be thankful for what the team has now and look to the future of the organization than to look back with longing over a time that actually wasn't all that great.

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Yeah man I’m gonna log off of here. I haven’t been on here since the week the pels were eliminated. So watching the game tonight pissed me off and opened up old wounds. If jrue holiday gets traded to the Lakers in the off-season by any mysterious chance. We really need to look into firing David griffin. Because he is buddy buddy with lebron.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Let him leave on his own time. Atleast Golden st would’ve been healthy enough to stop them next year.

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Newsflash, it is not about trying to hurt other teams. It is about trying to make your team better given the circumstances. So, instead of getting Ingram, Ball, Hart, Hayes, NAW, Didi, JJ, 2 add'l 1st rounders 2 2nd rounders, and a 1st round swap right (I may have missed some), you would rather have let AD walk just to spite Lebron?

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Lol Man you don’t even believe in the players we got back. Hart and ball are already involved in trade discussions.

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Link?

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Newsflash, it is not about trying to hurt other teams. It is about trying to make your team better given the circumstances. So, instead of getting Ingram, Ball, Hart, Hayes, NAW, Didi, JJ, 2 add'l 1st rounders 2 2nd rounders, and a 1st round swap right (I may have missed some), you would rather have let AD walk just to spite Lebron?

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As I’ve stated before. Most of those players won’t even be on this team in 3 years. We have way too many guards on this team. Those draft picks will be weak because they are late round picks. We can’t give in to player demands or we would look weak. Now they’ve won a ship and laker fans are all on our social media pages saying we got finessed for a title.

Farm team do farm team things.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

As I’ve stated before. Most of those players won’t even be on this team in 3 years. We have way too many guards on this team. Those draft picks will be weak because they are late round picks. We can’t give in to player demands or we would look weak. Now they’ve won a ship and laker fans are all on our social media pages saying we got finessed for a title.

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It's weird that you're thinking about the future when it comes to ''most of those players'', but all of a sudden the problem is roster construction now when it comes to having too many guards on the team.

Either the priority is 3 years from now, or it's today. It can't be both.

''We can't give in to player demands or we look weak'' is an absurd way of looking at it. You can just as easily say ''we can't ignore player demands or they get what they want anyway and we get nothing.''

If you base your team-building and trade decisions on what Lakers fans say on twitter you don't deserve a job as a GM.

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Originally Posted by Taker597

Farm team do farm team things.

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Trust the process.

We have no idea what the value of those draft picks will be. The last pick will convey in 24 or 25, Lebron will be in his 40s, and retired. Could the Lakers sign another superstar to pair along with AD yeah they could. Its also entirely possible they don’t, and considering how strong the west is might not even be a playoff team.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Those guys won?t even be on this team in 2-3 years.

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Ingram just turned in the best year he's ever had and was a legit all star. Hart was definitely one if the best bench players in the league?

What you got against them? Why should they be off a team that should easily afford them both.

And who cares about this asterisk bubble championship?

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Ingram just turned in the best year he's ever had and was a legit all star. Hart was definitely one if the best bench players in the league?

What you got against them? Why should they be off a team that should easily afford them both.

And who cares about this asterisk bubble championship?

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Ingram has huge gaps in his game still, but it's absurd to pretend he hasn't had a huge leap. He's going to get a max contract, he's likely to be here for at least the next couple of years, and he's a legitimate 20 point scorer on good efficiency. The fact that his defense is incredibly shoddy, that his decision making is suspect, and that his off-dribble shooting is nonexistent doesn't stop this fact being true.

Josh Hart was one of the only players on the team that we could rely on to actually put in effort in any given game this year, and was the best rebounder of his height in the entire NBA this season.

The idea that it's a foregone conclusion that both of them will definitely be gone in 2 or 3 years is kind of presumptive and not based on reality, I think. There's every chance that Hart, for example, sticks around longer than that purely on being really good at a few things and being cheap.

Could they both be gone? Sure, but if they're gone, they'll be gone in ways that benefit the team in other ways. A lot of people have suggested that Ingram will be our DeRozan: our good, but fundamentally flawed All Star who plays here for a while and does well but is ultimately used in a trade to acquire The Perfect Fit. If that's true, that still means Ingram has had value: he got us The Perfect Fit!

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

As I?ve stated before. Most of those players won?t even be on this team in 3 years. We have way too many guards on this team. Those draft picks will be weak because they are late round picks. We can?t give in to player demands or we would look weak. Now they?ve won a ship and laker fans are all on our social media pages saying we got finessed for a title.

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First of all, you have absolutely no way of knowing that. You are just being emotional. Secondly, the other option would be to get nothing when he walks on his own. So, you are saying that you would prefer to get nothing at all?

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Ingram has huge gaps in his game still, but it's absurd to pretend he hasn't had a huge leap. He's going to get a max contract, he's likely to be here for at least the next couple of years, and he's a legitimate 20 point scorer on good efficiency. The fact that his defense is incredibly shoddy, that his decision making is suspect, and that his off-dribble shooting is nonexistent doesn't stop this fact being true.

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Good golly dude you never waste an opportunity to get in some jabs at Ingram huh? Good lord. :hihi:

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

First of all, you have absolutely no way of knowing that. You are just being emotional. Secondly, the other option would be to get nothing when he walks on his own. So, you are saying that you would prefer to get nothing at all?

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Those Lakers players won’t be in here in 2-3 years. Just be sure to give me my props when they are traded away or not resigned. We have too many guards on this team.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Good golly dude you never waste an opportunity to get in some jabs at Ingram huh? Good lord. :hihi:

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I mean you're quoting a section in which I say he's had a huge leap and is going to get a max and that the flaws in his game don't stop that being true. Do you want me to pretend that he's a flawless player now? I've conceded about 30000000 times this year that he's improved in ways that I didn't think likely and has become a much much better player than I thought he would, but I'm not going to suddenly pretend that he's God's Gift. If that's what you want from me, then I'm sorry you're just not going to get it. Find sycophancy elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

Those Lakers players won’t be in here in 2-3 years. Just be sure to give me my props when they are traded away or not resigned. We have too many guards on this team.

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Ingram will be here. However, even if not, was it better to get nothing than what we got? You fail to answer that, but keep posting the same emotional nonsense over and over.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I mean you're quoting a section in which I say he's had a huge leap and is going to get a max and that the flaws in his game don't stop that being true. Do you want me to pretend that he's a flawless player now? I've conceded about 30000000 times this year that he's improved in ways that I didn't think likely and has become a much much better player than I thought he would, but I'm not going to suddenly pretend that he's God's Gift. If that's what you want from me, then I'm sorry you're just not going to get it. Find sycophancy elsewhere.

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To suggest you need to act like he's God's gift is unnecessary hyperbole which was suggestedby no one.

You were super wrong about him last summer. Let it go dude. Highlighting and overstating his shortcomings isn't necessary every time you speak his name.

He's one of the best young players in the league. Very high probability he'll be here a while.

Let it go. :hihi:

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Originally Posted by luckyman

To suggest you need to act like he's God's gift is unnecessary hyperbole which was suggestedby no one.

You were super wrong about him last summer. Let it go dude. Highlighting and overstating his shortcomings isn't necessary every time you speak his name.

He's one of the best young players in the league. Very high probability he'll be here a while.

Let it go. :hihi:

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Whenever I address players, especially players who are going to be getting $25m+ paydays, I discuss them with both pros and cons. If hearing his cons discussed puts you in some sort of way, then that's fine, but you solve that by muting or whatever because I'm not going to stop taking a balanced approach on any player.

''You were super wrong about him last summer.'' - Yes, I know, as evidenced by me literally saying that in the post you're responding to. :rolleyes:

Y’all need to stop entertaining this dude.

I'd like to have a coach first.

1. Get new coach
2. Draft a big man that can play defense. Or an elite shooter and move Reddick.
3. Sign Ingram.
4. Develop the young players.
5. Move Lonzo if he?s not playing at a high level.


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Originally Posted by WildlifeAirGrp

I'd like to have a coach first.

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That'll be sorted in the next two weeks ish, so it's fine.

The GM does what's best for the team, you don't let AD walk to Lakers just to spite them a year earlier...

Also you can't assume the draft picks will be ******** and the players won't be here in "2-3 years". If you want to assume then assume that they get moved for better pieces.

We all hate that the Lakers won but it was for the Pels good.

The dude was mailing it in before he was traded. Who's to say that he even played a full season for the rest of his time in a Pels uniform. You don't let a talent like that just walk without getting something for him.

I'm pretty sure most GMs would've done what that the Lakers did. The Lakers would've gotten AD eventually and we would've been building throughout the draft much slower than we are now. The deal allows us to make moves for different picks if those aren't to par during the draft(s) And we could even trade the excess of guards or the former Lakers for better players if they want to leave or don't fit. I hate the Lakers and the whole culture that's growing in the NBA but, all you do is try to build your squad the best you can and win.