Or…. Some fans just realize that if you fire that guy, it won’t matter. Someone else will just fail instead. I wasn’t around before but I bet you guys have wanted the last few GMs and coaches fired, thinking that once you get rid of them that all will be well. How did that work out?Quote:
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11-11-2021, 06:27 AMHerbJonesFan
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11-11-2021, 08:22 AMDroopyDawgWillie isn't the problem. Every coach that has been here has been handed a terrible roster that have all had the same issues:Quote:
Originally Posted by Taker597
Poor shooting
Poor IQ
Bad defenders
Turnover machines
Its just terrible. Willie Green and Jarron Collins have been with teams that have excelled in the league, and they are now on the same staff in NOLA. The difference? THE PLAYERS.
I have said for years that "players play"... this is a player-driven league. I'm not saying that coaches are useless, but once the ball is tipped the coaches don't have a PS5 controller in their hands to control the actions of the players once they get on the court. I don't think Monty, or Gentry, or SVG, or Willie are coaching these players to miss wide open shots, or turn the ball over repeatedly, or refuse to close-out on good shooters. The same mistakes have plagued this team regardless of the coach.
It starts and ends with the roster. I guess you can blame Willie Green for accepting the job as the head coach here, but I don't/can't blame him for this team's play. This team is trash thanks to Griff, Demps and whoever else is responsible for putting these rosters together. -
11-11-2021, 09:28 AMPELICANSFANWillie can keep his canned "good guy" media BS. Why in the hell haven't we "earned" calls that are obvious. What is the NBA? We have a coach basically admitting that small market teams and non-star playrs should be judged differently when applying the rules? Screw that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DroopyDawg
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11-11-2021, 10:24 AM13 - 3Miss me?Quote:
Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN
https://youtu.be/HC_udkoI9_g
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11-11-2021, 11:19 AMAll MetroI?ve noticed this every time they show him on the bench. He is not a leader just a big goofy athletic kidQuote:
Originally Posted by TennMan23
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11-11-2021, 01:22 PMCreative
This is getting really ugly …
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11-11-2021, 04:44 PMml waveAre the people with the ability to fire Griff upset about these things?Quote:
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11-11-2021, 04:47 PMml waveLol. If you want to get caught up on recent Pelicans/Hornets history from before you joined, you should check out the In the NO podcast. Pretty informative and will give you the historical perspective you're looking for.Quote:
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11-11-2021, 05:53 PMTaker597The man tried to give out a 3 year max for a Washed up Kyle Lowry. He's dangerous to keep around with our assets in his hand. What stupid desperate ******** he's gonna do next. Hopefully, Benson locked him out of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerbJonesFan
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11-11-2021, 06:52 PMEman5805That’s what I’m saying. You fire a decision maker asap for crap decisions and they immediately stop being able to make them.Quote:
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11-11-2021, 09:42 PMTaker597Like we don't have to even keep score. The only good moves Griff has made was Graham and Jonas. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eman5805
Our depth is so bad... Maybe we would of been better off keeping Adams at 18 million and dumping Hayes. That's a really sad and valid argument.
3 years and we can't build a bench while we are selling and trading picks like candy. Like what is even going on... Zion isn't even a max guy, yet. We still can't build a team when he is cheap. Like what is Griff gonna do when he has real salary cap limitations!? This is really bad when the rebuild was handed to him on a silver platter. -
11-11-2021, 10:07 PMPelicanidae
We've talked a little bit so far about how efficiency in general is down for a lot of big names this season, largely inspired by how poorly NAW has been shooting, so I decided to look up the stats of the NBA's most highly paid players thus far this season and compare them to last year to see how much has changed.
Player 2021 Pay 20-21 Stats p36 21-22 Stats p36 20-21 BPM 21-22 BPM Change in TS% Steph Curry $45.8m 33.7/5.8/6.1 on
48/42/91 splits29.3/6.9/7.0 on
43/39/95 splits+8.1 +7.5
(down 0.6)-4.1% John Wall $44.3m ---------------- Has not played ----------- ------------ ---------------- Russell Westbrook $44.2m 22.0/11.4/11.6 on
44/31/66 splits19.2/9.0/8.8 on
41/28/65 splits+3.4 -2.9
(down 6.3)-3.2% James Harden $43.8m 24.2/7.8/10.6 on
47/36/86 splits19.3/8.5/9.3 on
41/39/87 splits+4.6 +2.5
(down 2.1)-4.0% Damian Lillard $43.7m 28.9/4.2/7.6 on
45/39/92 splits20.7/4.3/8.4 on
38/25/84 splits+5.9 -2.8
(down 8.7)-14.5% Lebron James $41.1m 27.0/8.3/8.4 on
51/37/69 splits24.2/5.4/6.8 on
47/35/78 splits+7.5 +2.6
(down 4.9)-3.8% Kevin Durant $40.9m 29.3/7.7/6.1 on
54/45/88 splits30.8/8.9/5.2 on
58/40/82 splits+6.9 +8.3
(up 1.4)+0.8% Paul George $39.3m 24.9/7.5/5.5 on
47/41/87 splits27.5/8.4/5.6 on
46/36/86 splits+3.7 +5.0
(up 1.3)-3.0% Giannis Antetokoumnpo $39.3m 30.7/12.0/6.4 on
57/30/69 splits29.1/12.9/6.6 on
49/29/69 splits+8.8 +9.7
(up 0.9)-5.9% Kawhi Leonard $39.3m --------------------- Has not played ------------ ------------ -----------------
The point of the list is comparison so while some guys who haven't played this year did play last year, I didn't bother putting their figures for last year in because there's no change to monitor, which is the whole point.
But yeah, just a clear decline in the per 36 stats for almost everyone, and a huge dip in TS% and BPM. Part of this is undoubtedly the rules changes that have resulted in fewer FTs league-wide and a slower pace in general, but I am still convinced the change to a new ball is probably part of it too. Some guys have held up fairly similarly in terms of their raw production (Giannis, for example) while still seeing big dips in efficiency.
Durant is really the surprise guy out of the list, since he's doing better in just about every major way. Lillard is the post-child for this season's regression, taking the biggest drops in TS%, BPM, and raw scoring production.
It's kinda weird to see such a uniform drop among big names like this.