Right on the mark!
Adams won't be used like Favors
— Shamit Dua (@FearTheBrown) November 27, 2020
Bledsoe won't be used like Jrue
Lonzo won't be used like Lonzo
It's a new team, new coach, new system.
Shamit gets it too!
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11-27-2020, 02:06 PM13 - 3Shamit gets it too!
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11-27-2020, 02:17 PMAusPel
Who's gonna take Jrue's assignments on defense?
Who's gonna defend the KDs and Kawhis, Giannises and LeBron's of the world now? Tatum?
BI? :help:
I really dislike this honeymoon period where thing's new and all the problems are fixed
Losing Jrue is a clear step backwards defensively
Zion needs to get back to caring about defense and BI and Lonzo the same really
That Shamit Tweet was a major puff piece. It didn't say jack ********
But some people will cling onto the smallest things as a sign of hope. Let's get real -
11-27-2020, 02:33 PMNola3Honestly? I'm fine with letting BI try to take the primary defensive assignments for wings this year. I want to let him test the absolute boundaries of his game on both sides so that we can get an idea of what he can ultimately be, and, more importantly, what the best way to compliment him and Zion is.Quote:
Originally Posted by AusPel
Now, do I expect him to be very successful doing that? No. But, if he shows the ability to hold his own with the best of the best on defense for 10-15 minutes a night while also carrying a heavy offensive burden, then I absolutely think that changes the entire trajectory of this team. I hope Van Gundy uses this season to let the cornerstones expand their games to the absolute limits while helping to nurture the younger guys. JJ, Adams, and Bledsoe should only help with those goals and should also have the side benefit of bringing in some extra wins as well.
I don't think the end goal of this season should be to make the playoffs (although obviously I would love for that to happen) but to have us playing meaningful games with the future of our team learning how to best navigate those games together. -
11-27-2020, 02:34 PMSnarly
You don’t replace Jrue. That’s just dumb if you that’s the way you’re looking at it. It’s going to be a combination of scheme, game planning, and throwing different looks at whoever they’re trying to defend. Not sure why you keep posting these drivel.
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11-27-2020, 02:43 PMAusPelI agree with all of thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Nola3
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11-27-2020, 02:47 PMAusPelYour plan is to throw different looks at the LeBrons of the worldQuote:
Originally Posted by Snarly
Good job, good effort
Now we've found the Pels defensive co-ordinator of the last few years -
11-27-2020, 02:49 PMSnarlyMaybe you should have a little more faith in your new head coach who have proven a hell of a lot more than your negativity.Quote:
Originally Posted by AusPel
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11-27-2020, 02:50 PMAusPelBeing objective isn't a synonym for pessimismQuote:
Originally Posted by Snarly
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11-27-2020, 02:52 PMSnarly
Nothing you said is objective. Just a bunch of opinions. You have yet to see ONE game under SVG. But keep driving that strawman BS.
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11-27-2020, 02:54 PMPaKwAn
Some people also cling onto the smallest things as a sign of despair.... nothing wrong being positive on the team you support with virtually everything new especially when we were under a badly coached squad... there's no perfect team out there, each have there own flaws...this team obviously has flaws in it, but if svg can bring out the best with this squad and the team plays with heart.. i would gladly be supporting them and be proud of it as well. Just appreciate the fact that we are not a team like the kings or knicks.
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11-27-2020, 02:55 PMAusPelTrue thatQuote:
Originally Posted by PaKwAn
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11-27-2020, 02:57 PMAusPelYes it's definitely "an opinion" that we're taking a massive step backwards defensively with no one to replace a top 5 defender in the league. We didn't even try and scrape for a defensive wing in FA. Every man and his dog was crying out for us to sign one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarly
It's a giant, swollen, objective fact that we are super thin at the wing.
But somehow that's a strawman argument to you.
I don't think you even know what a strawman argument means -
11-27-2020, 03:31 PMSnarly
You completely disregard the possibility of team defense being their answer especially from a proven defensive coach with some quality defensive pieces while your argument for defending big time wings are only viable if they had a Jrue Holiday replacement. Definition of a straw man there.
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11-27-2020, 03:43 PMAusPelI didn't say we needed Jrue Holiday 2.0, now you're straw manning me. What's left over is atrocious defensively at SF, which was my point from the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarly
Quality defensive pieces? I assume you're talking about Bledsoe who is giving up 7 inches to every wing. He'll easily get blown by the star wings, then Adams is supposed to save the day with his rim protection, which by all accounts is vastly overrated. -
11-28-2020, 11:24 AMpelafanaticIf you?re expecting a finished product this year then you should probably log off right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by AusPel
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11-28-2020, 12:43 PMPelicanidaePretty much this.Quote:
Originally Posted by pelafanatic
Bledsoe and Adams are both very good defenders. We can quibble about exactly how good they are, but if you have a plus wingspan and strength height doesn't matter that much (how many times do we have to watch Jrue stop Jokic in the post before this becomes clear, and how long does CP3 have to play before people realise this?) and Adam's positional defense and verticality does far more to protect the rim than gaudy block numbers. But even if that wasn't true, and we were a bottom 10 defense next year, so what? Yes, it will be annoying to watch but nobody expects a ring from us next year. Even making the 8th seed would be a victory. So if things aren't optimal then that's just expected. -
11-28-2020, 01:06 PM13 - 3So we are not going to the Finals? Tank for even more draft picks?:hihi:Quote:
Originally Posted by pelafanatic
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11-28-2020, 01:21 PMSilverfoxxPlayoffs is not a priority this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by AusPel
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
Playoffs is not a priority this year.
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11-28-2020, 01:33 PMpelafanatic
Additionally, what I can say is I know they want NAW playing meaningful minutes this year, specifically with other ball handlers. They way NAW was used last year was incredibly frustrating. They’re leaving a spot open so that he can be put in positions to succeed offensively. (Also some rumors that he’s legit 6’7 now)
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11-28-2020, 03:01 PMSoCal4Pels
Eye on the prize.
Goals this year are :
1. Developing Zion, Jax, NAW, Kira, Marshall, and getting Lonzo to buy into a role that better suits.
2. Establishing an effective, defensive identity
3. Getting the eight seed
Getting to the second round in this deep western conference would be magnificent overachieving and would put SVG in contention for coach of the year.
If we don't achieve those three goals this year, then they will be more or less the same goals for the following season. -
11-28-2020, 09:16 PMAUSSIE_PELICANHonestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverfoxx
Ppl need to stop looking at trades in a vacuum.
If they signed Jrue, this would have retarded BI, Lonzo, Zions, Naws and now Lewis' growth. You don't pay a 30+ year old Jrue 200M+ to be your 3rd or 4th banana. 25M with Adams and Bledsoe gives you that leadership.
I love Jrue, but not that much!!