May 16th - New Orleans Pelicans VS LA Lakers - 31-40 - SEASON CLOSER

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05-16-2021, 09:06 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

No matter how he plays, teams are gonna look at him as an expiring with a tiny bit of dead money. And regardless of play, he will be a slight neg asset this summer and possibly a slight positive at the deadline - but I dont think Griff has the patience to wait until then.

The way he was talking, things are definitely being moved for shooters this off season

Pick is as good as gone. Unless he's targeting Kispert
05-16-2021, 09:06 PM
HornetGuru

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Originally Posted by Stalwart385

Nice hearing what Griff said about their shooting. It's just talk for now but it was strong talk.

What he say? I missed it
05-16-2021, 09:07 PM
Eman5805

They’re about to get clobbered in the second half.
05-16-2021, 09:08 PM
Stalwart385

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

What he say? I missed it

He quoted a sign someone he respected had in their office, "you can never have to many shooters".

He said they didn't have enough this year and it won't be a problem they have in the future.
05-16-2021, 09:09 PM
luckyman

The PnR defense is just dreadful. Any time Pelicans guards/wings fight over screens, there is 0 help from the bigs. There is 0 rotation. Just instant death. No coordination whatsoever.

Thats all on coaching.
05-16-2021, 09:09 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Stalwart385

Nice hearing what Griff said about their shooting. It's just talk for now but it was strong talk.

Griffin said Cotton Fitzsimmons was a big mentor and influence on him.

Griffin also said Cotton had a sign saying "you can never have too many shooters" over his desk

Griffin also failed to get any shooters last off-season and said "we won't make that mistake again."

This is highly incongruent to me
05-16-2021, 09:15 PM
As I See It

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

No matter how he plays, teams are gonna look at him as an expiring with a tiny bit of dead money. And regardless of play, he will be a slight neg asset this summer and possibly a slight positive at the deadline - but I dont think Griff has the patience to wait until then.

I do agree that he will have more value at mid-year with that 4MM buyout looming at the end of the year. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if we kept him around just so we could exercise that option. There are some interesting free agency possibilities in '22. (There are a lot of elite players who can opt out of their contracts)
05-16-2021, 09:15 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Griffin said Cotton Fitzsimmons was a big mentor and influence on him.

Griffin also said Cotton had a sign saying "you can never have too many shooters" over his desk

Griffin also failed to get any shooters last off-season and said "we won't make that mistake again."

This is highly incongruent to me

More optimistic than practical I think. He banked on JJ, Melli, and probably NAW being way more effective from deep than they were.
05-16-2021, 09:18 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

More optimistic than practical I think. He banked on JJ, Melli, and probably NAW being way more effective from deep than they were.

Maybe
05-16-2021, 09:19 PM
Stalwart385

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Griffin said Cotton Fitzsimmons was a big mentor and influence on him.

Griffin also said Cotton had a sign saying "you can never have too many shooters" over his desk

Griffin also failed to get any shooters last off-season

This is highly incongruent to me

I took it as an admittance of a mistake along with a promise to fix it. Hopefully, he does. I think everyone would be happy to see them focus on it this offseason.
05-16-2021, 09:25 PM
Taker597

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Originally Posted by Stalwart385

I took it as an admittance of a mistake along with a promise to fix it. Hopefully, he does. I think everyone would be happy to see them focus on it this offseason.

In a dicey offseason that's super difficult to improve in trade and free agency.

Griffin must be feeling the warmth/pressure , because there are no real answer for that outside of the top 6 of the draft
05-16-2021, 09:26 PM
MichaelMcNamara

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Originally Posted by As I See It

I do agree that he will have more value at mid-year with that 4MM buyout looming at the end of the year. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if we kept him around just so we could exercise that option. There are some interesting free agency possibilities in '22. (There are a lot of elite players who can opt out of their contracts)

It would shock me if he wasnt dealt this summer. Griff isnt all about value right now. He is going to put together as good of a team as he can going into training camp. Only way Bledsoe is here is if literally nobody is selling this summer
05-16-2021, 09:42 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by Taker597

In a dicey offseason that's super difficult to improve in trade and free agency.

Griffin must be feeling the warmth/pressure , because there are no real answer for that outside of the top 6 of the draft

Kispert is projected around the 8-12 mark
05-16-2021, 09:49 PM
As I See It

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Kispert is projected around the 8-12 mark

If we stay there and use it, that's the guy I want.
05-16-2021, 10:00 PM
ramsters60

great...
05-16-2021, 10:05 PM
13 - 3

Pels life

Here's hoping Jaxson Hayes isn't hurt as badly as he seems to be. He's crying and can't put any weight on ... his knee? How terrible could this be for a kid who plays so hard to wreck a knee in the fourth quarter of a meaningless final game.
— Skip Bayless (@RealSkipBayless) May 17, 2021
05-16-2021, 10:17 PM
As I See It

Another Double Double for H'Gomez!!
05-16-2021, 10:23 PM
RobertM320

Bulls win, SAC loses, we lose. Three way tie.
05-16-2021, 10:26 PM
AusPel

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Pels life

Here's hoping Jaxson Hayes isn't hurt as badly as he seems to be. He's crying and can't put any weight on ... his knee? How terrible could this be for a kid who plays so hard to wreck a knee in the fourth quarter of a meaningless final game.
— Skip Bayless (@RealSkipBayless) May 17, 2021

********ing hell
05-16-2021, 10:31 PM
JJackisangry

Christ. Can we catch a break? Hopefully Jax is okay
05-16-2021, 10:56 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

More optimistic than practical I think. He banked on JJ, Melli, and probably NAW being way more effective from deep than they were.

Yeah I agree. Whatever else is true, I don't think he expected career 41.6% 3pt shooter JJ Redick, who had just come off a season shooting 45.3% from 3 on high volume, to suddenly shoot 29.8% from 3 for the first 17 games of the year or so. And you can't really blame him for that: banking on JJ Redick being a good shooter has been a safe bet for well over a decade, and he even shot well (39.5%) in his 13 games played with the Grizz at the end of the season too. He just shot badly for us for this year.

Not sure how anyone could blame Griff for that particular misstep. And NAW as well, he's been very good from deep for a good stretch of time now, he just started the year poorly.
05-16-2021, 10:56 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Christ. Can we catch a break? Hopefully Jax is okay

That's my concern. The way Gasol defended that was wholly illegitimate imo.
05-16-2021, 10:58 PM
donato

Confirmed it’s his knee not ankle.
05-16-2021, 10:58 PM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by RobertM320

Bulls win, SAC loses, we lose. Three way tie.

Yep. And with that comes a 20.3% chance at a top 4 pick and a 4.5% chance for the #1 overall.
05-16-2021, 10:59 PM
donato

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Yep. And with that comes a 20.3% chance at a top 4 pick and a 4.5% chance for the #1 overall.

They don’t do tie-breakers?

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