Zion Appears on Gilbert's Arena

Beginning at about 1hr24m, Zion appears on Gilbert Arenas' show.

This is, to my memory, the first public appearance Zion has made without any spokespeople with him since he was on Reddick's podcast years ago.

I will transcribe key elements of what he said below, as it was a pretty good interview/discussion.

Questions in Bold, Answers Below. Answers will be pretty close to verbatim but I may get things slightly paraphrased because I'm typing this up as I listen, cause I'm not listening for a third time. I'll also add in occasional points of context in bold. Questions will be much more loosely paraphrased.

Is it hard to diet at your age?

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Sheesh, since it's you I'll be real. There are times when I wasn't... that s**t hard. I was 20, 22, a lot of money, it feels like all the money in the world, it is hard. But I'm at that point now where because of certain things, I have the wisdom around me of - I don't want to say older because they take offense to it - but people around me with wisdom who put me on game with certain things and go from there. [Arenas points out that he found it hard when he was young also] Yeah it's that invincibility trick.

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Rather than it just happening, discipline is a decision you have to make. Thoughts?

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It goes back to what I was saying back there man, it's an invincibility trick. When you're young you feel like can't nothing stop you but then you look back and you think, the people who gave me wisdom, who tried to nurture me, tell me you don't need to do that, they didn't try to force their way but I'm looking back at who really tried to give me wisdom, to put me on game to things. At the end of the day people try to give you their opinions and I do respect brutal honestly. I'd rather someone be honest to me than try to sugar coat it because at the end of the day if they're honest I know what I need to do to fix it.

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Arenas points out that he's looking slimmer already. He then says that he knows how good Zion is but he's been waiting for him to get on it because it's been holding you back.

Zion is asked if it's more cardio or dieting?

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With diet, I'm always able to come back each summer feeling good and looking good but I would say it's more of a, locking in on flexibility, band work, because it's those things that will keep me on the court longer rather than just losing a bunch of weight but then not being able to come on the court and maintain that. S**t, Bron got the blueprint [seriously, says Arenas, it's a job for him, he takes it so seriously but part of that is the veterans he came in with, some of us are not fortunate enough to have those veterans no we're not, that's real.

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I feel like some of your past situations aren't even so much weight, just injury misfortune and the weight is a problem that accumulates with that. It's unfair you've had to deal with weigh criticisms based on the fact that you're injured - without the injuries, the weight wouldn't be an issue because you come into the season in shape.

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I just like hooping. Man, you gotta understand - you of all people understand - I'm a hooper so when I'm sitting on the sideline watching my teammates on the side and we're losing I'm just thinking, s**t, I just know if I was out there I could change the outcome of it. Whether people want to believe it or not, when I'm on the sideline that hurts me more than anything. I want to hoop.

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Arenas points out how stupid it is when people come back to play just to prove that they're hurt - stay out until you're healthy.

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Mike said it best, if you take care of what you gotta take care of on the court, everything else will all into place. Nobody was saying nothing about you when you were Agent 0, doing your thing. What I want people to know about me is that I want to be out there. Nobody wants to sit on the sidelines. I don't want to sit over there hurt. Coach K taught me that I have to own up to my responsibilities. There are a lot of things that I could have done better, I didn't, and I'm in the process of fixing those wrongs.

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I don’t know about y’all but I wasn’t tremendously reassured by that interview. Yeah we all know you just want to hoop. That’s not the issue. The issue is will you do all the other work that allows you to hoop? That’s hard. That’s why LeBron is the exception not the rule. I’m not sure I see or hear a guy in Zion who gets that, who wants to live and train that way. Seems like he thinks if he plays well every thing else will take care of itself. It won’t.

He specifically said 'Bron has all the answers' and that's who he wants to emulate.

All you have to do is listen.

Sure, take everything he says at face value and just leave it at that. That’s all you have to do…

He literally said what you said you didn't hear, but okay. He's earned the doubt, he'll have to earn the belief.

tristan thompson has claimed lebron has the worst diet ever. I hate the narrative that when a great player is good it must be because they're in the gym longer, eating better, care more. It's mostly just because they're literally built different.

Ingram and Herb just seem to me like all they want to do all day every day is play basketball, but they're never going to be as good as the guy from Denver who really just wants to ride horses

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Originally Posted by new city champ

I don?t know about y?all but I wasn?t tremendously reassured by that interview. Yeah we all know you just want to hoop. That?s not the issue. The issue is will you do all the other work that allows you to hoop? That?s hard. That?s why LeBron is the exception not the rule. I?m not sure I see or hear a guy in Zion who gets that, who wants to live and train that way. Seems like he thinks if he plays well every thing else will take care of itself. It won?t.

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Did you actually just IGNORE this?

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Coach K taught me that I have to own up to my responsibilities. There are a lot of things that I could have done better, I didn't, and I'm in the process of fixing those wrongs.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

tristan thompson has claimed lebron has the worst diet ever. I hate the narrative that when a great player is good it must be because they're in the gym longer, eating better, care more. It's mostly just because they're literally built different.

Ingram and Herb just seem to me like all they want to do all day every day is play basketball, but they're never going to be as good as the guy from Denver who really just wants to ride horses

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https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...op=1&r=US&IR=T

Headline of that article: ''LeBron James reportedly spends $1.5 million per year to take care of his body — here's where it goes''

Lebron is famously obsessive over his physical state and recovery. From that article:

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James is one of the most physically dominant players in the league, but it doesn't all come naturally. James is said to spend seven figures a year — with one report saying $1.5 million — to take care of his body. That covers costs from his home gym, trainers, massage therapists, chefs, appliances, and more.

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James' former teammate Mike Miller said James treats his body like an investment. "Where a lot of people don't do it, he puts a lot of money behind taking care of his body. A lot of people think it's a big expense, but that big expense has allowed him to make a lot more money for a long period of time."

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A big part of James' physical work is the various forms of treatment he gets to prepare for and recover from games. He was reportedly one of the first players to invest in a cryo chamber, which uses liquid nitrogen to essentially be a more efficient version of an ice bath.

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James is also a fan of using the hyperbaric chamber to put more oxygen into his body.

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And he wears compression gear on flights after games and gets hooked up to an electrostimulation machine to flush out toxins and make his muscles contract.

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Say what you will about Lebron, but pretty much everyone knows that this is a guy who cares about taking care of his body and spends the money required to do it. If Zion is looking to put even 75% of that effort in to his own physical condition, that's an elite regimen.

He also said that he's spent the summer working on flexibility and athletics training because it should help him avoid the kind of strain that takes him out of games sometimes, and that the weight gain tends to happen during recovery periods when he can't work out as much as he wants - therefore, working on stuff that keeps him on the court should help his recovery times, his weight issues, and his longevity.

He's literally outlining what he's doing and why he's doing it to address the problems you're saying he doesn't acknowledge.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-...op=1&r=US&IR=T

Headline of that article: ''LeBron James reportedly spends $1.5 million per year to take care of his body — here's where it goes''

Lebron is famously obsessive over his physical state and recovery. From that article:











Say what you will about Lebron, but pretty much everyone knows that this is a guy who cares about taking care of his body and spends the money required to do it. If Zion is looking to put even 75% of that effort in to his own physical condition, that's an elite regimen.

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Yea i've seen that article. I'm going to trust a teammates first hand account over a writer for the business insider, who is not in the lockeroom with him seeing how he spends his time and is writing with a bias. People eat up stuff like Kobe shows up 3 hours early for workouts, steoh's workout is the most grueling in the league etc. which is why people keep writing it. The amount of money someone spends on their body is completely irrelevant compared to the amount of time, energy and discipline they spend. The guy working hardest on their body in the league isn't Lebron. It's probably some guy barely scraping by trying to get the another contract.

I have no doubt Lebron does a lot of the right things, but he also does a lot of the wrong things.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

Yea i've seen that article. I'm going to trust a teammates first hand account over a writer for the business insider, who is not in the lockeroom with him seeing how he spends his time and is writing with a bias.

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Another of his teammates is literally quoted in that same article saying the opposite. So it comes down to whether you trust Mike Miller over Tristan Thompson.

This is why Zion being more open in media doesn't seem to matter.

People will take the words from his mouth and come up with their own narratives anyway.

Zion: "I've just changed to a vegan diet"

Media and fans: "Hahaa my sauces say he eats cake for breakfast"

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Originally Posted by LAL1947

All he is saying is what he thinks he should say but there's no real intelligence or maturity there. Doubt he will ever figure it out in time on his own. I hope he does, for his sake.

What Zion needs to do is actually and properly humble himself first

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Zion: ''I've spoken to Coach K, I've seen that I've done things wrong and I'm working on fixing that''.

You: ''This guy needs to humble himself and speak to some experts who know what they're talking about, not just people who suck up to him!''

Insane stuff.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

This is why Zion being more open in media doesn't seem to matter.

People will take the words from his mouth and come up with their own narratives anyway.

Zion: "I've just changed to a vegan diet"

Media and fans: "Hahaa my sauces say he eats cake for breakfast"

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It's tough to just call something hating, but at this point it's legit what it is.

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Originally Posted by LAL1947

I think you're not reading between the lines and are taking what he's saying at face value without realizing that he's only saying what he knows he needs to say but there's been no real lessons learnt. It's like the difference between saying "I'm sorry" and "I repent"... saying sorry and doing the same thing again is not repentance. Know what I mean?

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If he's making a change this summer based on an accumulation of evidence from the past few years, how are you supposed to judge whether he's actually making the shift or whether he's just talking to save face? The answer is that you can't know that he's blowing hot air - you can only presume it.

Why presume it? Because you're pre-disposed to judge him negatively regardless. He's saying the right stuff. Of course it's possible that he's just gotten some recent PR training and that in reality nothing has changed, but Nance and Trey have both publicly gone to bat for him recently saying that he's on the right path, and there have been reports saying that he's been more committed to the organisation than ever before and at the Pels facilities more than anyone else this offseason, so there's plenty of reason to suspect there might have been a shift.

Combine that with becoming a father, and the recent massive public backlash his past mistakes have had, it isn't exactly a reach to assume he might have had a moment of clarity and decided to be a bit different in future.

So why don't we be optimistic about changes, based on all that evidence, rather than just completely dismissing it out of hand? The answer is because you don't like him, which is totally your right but it does come across as far more personal spite than professional evaluation.

He talks about older people giving him wisdom. He also talks about band work, diet and flexibility. Those are all things CJ has stressed with regards to younger players needing to learn. I wonder if he has CJ giving him that "wisdom."

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

He talks about older people giving him wisdom. He also talks about band work, diet and flexibility. Those are all things CJ has stressed with regards to younger players needing to learn. I wonder if he has CJ giving him that "wisdom."

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I think it's notable that 10 months ago, him and BI were laughing at CJ for stretching out in the locker room, and now Zion is publicly talking about doing band-work to maintain his flexibility in order to avoid injury.

Feels like CJ and, given Nance's public stance on Zion, maybe a bit of Larry too.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

If he's making a change this summer based on an accumulation of evidence from the past few years, how are you supposed to judge whether he's actually making the shift or whether he's just talking to save face? The answer is that you can't know that he's blowing hot air - you can only presume it.

Why presume it? Because you're pre-disposed to judge him negatively regardless. He's saying the right stuff. Of course it's possible that he's just gotten some recent PR training and that in reality nothing has changed, but Nance and Trey have both publicly gone to bat for him recently saying that he's on the right path, and there have been reports saying that he's been more committed to the organisation than ever before and at the Pels facilities more than anyone else this offseason, so there's plenty of reason to suspect there might have been a shift.

Combine that with becoming a father, and the recent massive public backlash his past mistakes have had, it isn't exactly a reach to assume he might have had a moment of clarity and decided to be a bit different in future.

So why don't we be optimistic about changes, based on all that evidence, rather than just completely dismissing it out of hand? The answer is because you don't like him, which is totally your right but it does come across as far more personal spite than professional evaluation.

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You show what you are by what you consistently do and heretofore, his actions have always proven incongruent with his words.

So I'm sorry, he's earned all the skepticism he gets. Besides, if reports are true, why would the Pelicans entertain trade offers for a 'mega-talent' who's 'now on the right track'?

Words are cheap; show me the results.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Another of his teammates is literally quoted in that same article saying the opposite. So it comes down to whether you trust Mike Miller over Tristan Thompson.

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again the writer is steering the questions here. He doesn't have to ask "have you ever seen Lebron have a cheat day?". Lebron invests a lot of money on his body, so does the guy who has a gym membership and a peloton bike that collects dust in the attic. So what?

There's a ton of pseudo science in nutrition and sports medicine. Largely because everybody's body reacts differently. Lebron doesn't have the secret blueprint Zion should follow. Considering his body type I honestly think he should be looking more in the NFL arena for players who were injury prone/ had weight problems and overcame them. Lebron is not the role model. He's a unique physical exception when it comes to durability. If Zion wants to test to see if the things Lebron does work for him that's great, more power to him, but he's just simply not built like Lebron and that's not going far enough.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

again the writer is steering the questions here. He doesn't have to ask "have you ever seen Lebron have a cheat day?". Lebron invests a lot of money on his body, so does the guy who has a gym membership and a peloton bike that collects dust in the attic. So what?

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Comparing those two things is ridiculous to the point of borderline dishonesty, imo. There is no NBA player who is on the ''peloton in the attic'' level, even placing that side by side with Lebron is absurd.

And the whole ''well, we don't want talk, we want results!'' angle is obviously illegitimate if you're going to claim that it's all just hype for Lebron too. Man's 20 years deep into an NBA career, has been in absurd physical shape literally the entire time and until he was 35+, never really had any serious injuries. If we can't believe that Lebron is taking care of his body, then nobody is. It's all ''no talk, show me the results'' until the results are there, and then it's just a mystery.

Saying that going as far as Lebron is ''not going far enough'' is ridiculous.

a man learns best when he gets burned.....zion will have a MVP type season coming up and im sticking to this...

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Originally Posted by As I See It

You show what you are by what you consistently do and heretofore, his actions have always proven incongruent with his words.

So I'm sorry, he's earned all the skepticism he gets. Besides, if reports are true, why would the Pelicans entertain trade offers for a 'mega-talent' who's 'now on the right track'?

Words are cheap; show me the results.

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Maybe because the reports are not true. Unless you believe a blogger over Griffin himself who said as much.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Maybe because the reports are not true. Unless you believe a blogger over Griffin himself who said as much.

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I mean, every exec will say they didn't have talks around a player.

I'm sure that Zion's name came up in discussions - just like I'm sure everyone's name did, including CJ, BI, Nance, JV, and Trey.

But framing it as if Griff was actively shopping Zion is completely not true - even according to the reports we got from bloggers. There's nobody other than like, NY based twitter accounts, who argued Zion was actively being shopped. It was only ever ''if we go for Scoot/Lillard/etc, what will be the price?'', which is a very different conversation.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Comparing those two things is ridiculous to the point of borderline dishonesty, imo. There is no NBA player who is on the ''peloton in the attic'' level, even placing that side by side with Lebron is absurd.

And the whole ''well, we don't want talk, we want results!'' angle is obviously illegitimate if you're going to claim that it's all just hype for Lebron too. Man's 20 years deep into an NBA career, has been in absurd physical shape literally the entire time and until he was 35+, never really had any serious injuries. If we can't believe that Lebron is taking care of his body, then nobody is. It's all ''no talk, show me the results'' until the results are there, and then it's just a mystery.

Saying that going as far as Lebron is ''not going far enough'' is ridiculous.

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Lebron came into the league as a young player and was injury free playing 80 games a season right away at age 18. This is before he's buying cryo chambers or electostimulation machines to "flush toxins" (lol).

Comparing him to Zion is worse than comparing an NBA athlete to a guy with a peloton they don't use. I'm not saying Lebron is not going far enough. I'm saying Zion copying Lebron is not going far enough. He needs to adapt his routines and self care based on what works specifically for him. There is no blueprint, but like I said I'd start with guys who have actually managed to shake the injury prone label before I went with trying to take stuff from what Lebron is doing.

Zion can't copy Lebron because Lebron is a different animal physically. I really don't know how I can make that more obvious.

You can't just say because a guy has played 20 seasons that he's got all the answers and everyone needs to copy him. That's the real disingenuous thing here.

I don't really care about talk or results. There's a realistic possibility Zion's body doesn't hold up no matter what he does. I just care about the consistent effort, which we as fans don't get to see and can only speculate about.

I think it’s good for him to come out and say he is trying. It may not work out- it may simply be PR to shut people up, but as others pointed out he has probably gotten advice from some of our veteran players and taken it to heart. If something keeps happening (aka you keep ending up with serious injuries), there is a 50/50 chance you aren’t doing enough to take care of your body. Sometimes it’s bad luck, sometimes your body just isn’t cut out to survive the stress. But I can appreciate if he is trying and taking this seriously. It’s a problem.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

You can't just say because a guy has played 20 seasons that he's got all the answers and everyone needs to copy him. That's the real disingenuous thing here.

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No, the disingenuous thing is acting like that's what I said.

You said that Lebron does some things right, some things wrong. No one is denying that - the man regularly smokes cigars for God's sake. But acting like he doesn't put far more time and effort into his healthcare than other players (in a league where players are regularly in the club until 3am drinking Henny after games) is nuts to me. Will Lebron occasionally have a bad habit or fall for a junk workout? Sure, everyone can and will - especially if they're desperate to eke out that final 1% of potential. But Zion isn't saying he's going to get a copy of Lebron's meal plan and eat that. He's saying he's going to follow the blueprint.

What is that blueprint? Well, sure it's an ambiguous term, but it seems clear to me that to follow in Lebron's blueprint here is to invest in the latest equipment, to hire a fleet of specialised staff who know what they're doing, and to stick to that regime seriously; treating training and recovery like it's your actual job. Cause that's what Lebron has been doing, for years.

And you know what? That's exactly what I want Zion to be doing. That's what you say in that post you want him to be doing. So why are you so contrary about Zion saying that's what he's going to do?

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

I think it’s good for him to come out and say he is trying.

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I thought that too, but apparently not. Why should he, if he comes out and says ''I'm trying, here's what I've focused in on, I've talked to X person and got Y advice'', and the fan response is just to act like he came out and told them that he was going to graffiti their home?

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I thought that too, but apparently not. Why should he, if he comes out and says ''I'm trying, here's what I've focused in on, I've talked to X person and got Y advice'', and the fan response is just to act like he came out and told them that he was going to graffiti their home?

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Fans are fickle unfortunately. He should still say it for the people that need to hear it. I appreciate it personally. Sometimes being a public figure just sucks. You cannot win

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— New Orleans Pelicans (@PelicansNBA) July 12, 2023

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

No, the disingenuous thing is acting like that's what I said.

You said that Lebron does some things right, some things wrong. No one is denying that - the man regularly smokes cigars for God's sake. But acting like he doesn't put far more time and effort into his healthcare than other players (in a league where players are regularly in the club until 3am drinking Henny after games) is nuts to me. Will Lebron occasionally have a bad habit or fall for a junk workout? Sure, everyone can and will - especially if they're desperate to eke out that final 1% of potential. But Zion isn't saying he's going to get a copy of Lebron's meal plan and eat that. He's saying he's going to follow the blueprint.

What is that blueprint? Well, sure it's an ambiguous term, but it seems clear to me that to follow in Lebron's blueprint here is to invest in the latest equipment, to hire a fleet of specialised staff who know what they're doing, and to stick to that regime seriously; treating training and recovery like it's your actual job. Cause that's what Lebron has been doing, for years.

And you know what? That's exactly what I want Zion to be doing. That's what you say in that post you want him to be doing. So why are you so contrary about Zion saying that's what he's going to do?

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I'm not saying what you said. That's what Zion said. That's the thing I don't like. As I said in the original post.

If he said man I've been taking been taking X from Frank Gore because he managed to shake the injury prone label that would have been impressive to me. Saying I'm copying Lebron doesn't prove he cares based on the name drop alone because it's lazy to say i'm copying the greatest player of this generation. Lebron never struggled with injuries early in his career and never struggled with his weight and I've brought up legitimate questions as to how much of his longevity should be attributed to the fact he's just a freak of nature like Jordan and Kareem before him.

Literally google search Luka workout and you'll see a bunch of articles that credit his workouts for how great a player he is despite the fact the guy clearly looks fat for an NBA player on the court.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

I'm not saying what you said. That's what Zion said. That's the thing I don't like. As I said in the original post.

If he said man I've been taking been taking X from Frank Gore because he managed to shake the injury prone label that would have been impressive to me. Saying I'm copying Lebron doesn't prove he cares based on the name drop alone because it's lazy to say i'm copying the greatest player of this generation. Lebron never struggled with injuries early in his career and never struggled with his weight and I've brought up legitimate questions as to how much of his longevity should be attributed to the fact he's just a freak of nature like Jordan and Kareem before him.

Literally google search Luka workout and you'll see a bunch of articles that credit his workouts for how great a player he is despite the fact the guy clearly looks fat for an NBA player on the court.

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I find it incredible that you're so insistent that the Lebron comp shouldn't be valued because Lebron's never had injuries and may just be a freak of nature and therefore incomparable, and the option you choose that would impress you is someone who is, by virtue of playing a completely different sport, literally incomparable.

Lebron never struggled with injuries. Have you considered that maybe part of the reason for this is because he has spent the last 12 years at the forefront of athletic self-care? Of course we can't run the experiment where we have alternate universes to compare a Lebron who didn't do this kind of investment, so we'll never really know, but if your point is that we can't know whether Lebron's investment has paid off or if he's just an athletic freak, why can't you just say that you hope Zion's tailoring his routine to himself and move on? Instead you have to push weird stuff about what Tristan Thompson says about Lebron's diet and how Zion's just looking for clout.

Going to painstaking lengths to hate on someone who is open about their struggle to improve after past mistakes. Pure Skip Bayliss level stuff.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I find it incredible that you're so insistent that the Lebron comp shouldn't be valued because Lebron's never had injuries and may just be a freak of nature and therefore incomparable, and the option you choose that would impress you is someone who is, by virtue of playing a completely different sport, literally incomparable.

Lebron never struggled with injuries. Have you considered that maybe part of the reason for this is because he has spent the last 12 years at the forefront of athletic self-care? Of course we can't run the experiment where we have alternate universes to compare a Lebron who didn't do this kind of investment, so we'll never really know, but if your point is that we can't know whether Lebron's investment has paid off or if he's just an athletic freak, why can't you just say that you hope Zion's tailoring his routine to himself and move on? Instead you have to push weird stuff about what Tristan Thompson says about Lebron's diet and how Zion's just looking for clout.

Going to painstaking lengths to hate on someone who is open about their struggle to improve after past mistakes. Pure Skip Bayliss level stuff.

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I like Zion. I've always liked Zion. I think he was ambushed with these questions a bit and is just giving lip service. He's young and has made some mistakes but i legitimately think the the basketball injuries are just a product of his biology. Lebron was not a professional taking care of his body at 18-23 either and all this stuff that you say is the Lebron blueprint is literally stuff CJ and Larry say all the time. You and I are on the same side of the fence with Zion, I just frankly don't care what he does or doesn't say to Gilbert Arenas unless it's actually note worthy. Rehabbing and dealing with outlandish negative backlash is already way more adversity physically and mentally than Lebron has ever had to deal with. You're taking a point I've made about Lebron and making it about Zion.

Just take the L man. You're a Lebron fanboy I get, but youve earned the L for falling for a business insider article.

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

Just take the L man. You're a Lebron fanboy I get, but youve earned the L for falling for a business insider article.

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You're right - instead, I should take my information from the well renowned, reliable, trustworthy resource of

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Tristan Thompson.

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now this moriah mills chick is going around saying zion was abusing her..paying her off so she can keep quiet......talking bout zion owe her $62k and has not paid her yet.....i saw a video that she staged with tmz of her looking like she was walking down a abandon street and saying her and zion is in a good place....talking bout other NBA players have contacted her and that part might be true lol...

zion has to take legal actions now against her....and the league will investigate it just because she said he abused her...

That woman is bat$#!t crazy

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now this moriah mills chick is going around saying zion was abusing her..paying her off so she can keep quiet......talking bout zion owe her $62k and has not paid her yet.....i saw a video that she staged with tmz of her looking like she was walking down a abandon street and saying her and zion is in a good place....talking bout other NBA players have contacted her and that part might be true lol...

zion has to take legal actions now against her....and the league will investigate it just because she said he abused her...

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She also claimed she was pregnant and also claimed to have gotten his name tattooed on her face, neither of which appear true. She is legitimately crazy.

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