Pels vs Thunder Game Thread

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03-11-2023, 06:52 PM
Pelicansfun

Pels vs Thunder Game Thread

Play big, and we should have the advantage. Let?s Goooooooo
03-11-2023, 07:05 PM
As I See It

This forum has exposed the the Fair-Weather-Fans, differentiating them from the real ones. You know who I'm talking about --- those people that will cry, bellyache, and attempt to belittle (then run to the forum moderator) when a poster says anything contrary to the status quo while the team is winning. But, they somehow disappear when the going gets rough.

Where did you all go? LMAO!!!
03-11-2023, 07:26 PM
stevemadden504

If you wanna win put Hayes in
03-11-2023, 07:30 PM
neworleanshoo

I'm still here (in my seat). And any jabs at your puzzling negativity have nothing to do with any "status quo"... let's geaux Pels
03-11-2023, 07:35 PM
Fedupfan

I hope Naji and Herb start out aggressive but don?t foul. This is a game where SGA tries to get Herb in foul trouble early. Good thing Dyson is back and playing well.
03-11-2023, 07:54 PM
RobertM320

Joel said SGA has three steals in the first 5 minutes but really its more sloppy ballhandling on our part.
03-11-2023, 08:09 PM
Fedupfan

This is downright awful. I really can’t believe how bad this team shoots.
03-11-2023, 08:10 PM
Fedupfan

All they need to do is make open shots as an NBA player. I don’t understand what they are practicing.
03-11-2023, 08:15 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertM320

Joel said SGA has three steals in the first 5 minutes but really its more sloppy ballhandling on our part.

That's their biggest need...Point Guard. They saw this two years ago when they went hard after Lowery and Paul. Then they 'settled' on "fool's goal" from Portland at the trade deadline and checked the Point Guard box. And, the Point PF can't seem to stay on the court.

That's all on the front office. So I guess now they are two years behind schedule...AT LEAST...just in that position.
03-11-2023, 08:19 PM
Fedupfan

Just terrible basketball
03-11-2023, 08:22 PM
Pelicansfun

We need to keep attacking the paint. They have no shot blockers.
03-11-2023, 08:23 PM
Fedupfan

This is a seriously awful situation. This guy can’t get these dudes to come to play. Just shoot awful and play lazy every game.
03-11-2023, 08:28 PM
Fedupfan

One of the worst basketball performances I have ever seen.
03-11-2023, 08:30 PM
Fedupfan

We are watching a really badly coached team. The role players have no idea what to do on offense because they are never part of it. As a result, this looks like intramural basketball.
03-11-2023, 08:30 PM
djrnno

Every last one of then including coaches should be giving back $ cause they stealing
03-11-2023, 08:30 PM
6warddude

maybe we will come back in the second half.....
03-11-2023, 08:30 PM
RobertM320

20 FTA by Thunder and still 4 minutes to go until halftime. And both JV and Herb with 3 fouls. We can't even get games called fair when we're at home.
03-11-2023, 08:32 PM
Fedupfan

This game isn’t on the refs. The Pels are plying so bad on defense that they are out of position and fouling. They aren’t playing hard at all.
03-11-2023, 08:33 PM
djrnno

Willie has as about much fire as a guy waiting for a bus. This team has checked out
03-11-2023, 08:36 PM
Fedupfan

I’d have to fire Willie for this one. This is probably the worst Pels game I have seen in a while.
03-11-2023, 08:38 PM
PaKwAn

This team should never have 2 days of rest, they always come out flat with that much rest. Griff and company needs a lot of soul searching for this team in the offseason.
03-11-2023, 08:38 PM
stevemadden504

Kira needs to be on the court with Hayes
03-11-2023, 08:40 PM
As I See It

AS I SEE IT

*A Neophyte as a head coach!!
*An array of mis-matched pieces.
*Unable to develop their own talent.
*A front office that can't make the right call.
*No experienced point guard.
*A superstar that can't stay on the court.
*Spreading the team's REAL SUPERSTAR way too thin.
*And we find ourselves constrained by poor cap management.

Did I say a Neophyte as a head coach?

I know I take a lot of grief from some of you, but these are only the facts. Even if they somehow come back and win this game, I stand by everything I've written.
03-11-2023, 08:43 PM
RobertM320

I'm sorry, but these are both NBA teams. There's no excuse for a visiting team to have 24 FTA IN A HALF, to 9 for the home team. None. We've got THREE starters with 3 fouls each in the first half. We get mugged in the lane, no call. They get bumped, its a foul. Its no wonder every one of our shots seems difficult. When we don't get the same calls the other team does, you have no chance.
03-11-2023, 08:46 PM
As I See It

Is our super-star shooting coach on the injury list, too?
03-11-2023, 08:47 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevemadden504

Kira needs to be on the court with Hayes

You would think.
03-11-2023, 08:50 PM
Fedupfan

I’m sure Willie is just lighting them up in the locker room for the complete lack of knowing how to play basketball. :idoh:
03-11-2023, 08:58 PM
stevemadden504

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I’m sure Willie is just lighting them up in the locker room for the complete lack of knowing how to play basketball. :idoh:

It's kinda his fault, when CJ is off the floor Kira should be in, we constantly need a player on the court who can attack the rim.
03-11-2023, 09:01 PM
RobertM320

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevemadden504

It's kinda his fault, when CJ is off the floor Kira should be in, we constantly need a player on the court who can attack the rim.

Attacking the rim doesn't make a damn bit of difference. They're bodying us up as we drive the lane and we NEVER get a call. A textbook defensive play by Herb to start the 3rd quarter should have been a charge on OKC, and they call a blocking fouls. Its become worse than WWE.
03-11-2023, 09:07 PM
As I See It

First Round Picks

# 1: Can't be relied upon.
JAX: In need of development, currently buried by Willie,
NAW: Never worked out here; now on his fourth team
Kira: Injured in his second year and now buried by Willie.
3M3: Spot Starter who shows signs but is at least two years away.
DD: Plays sparingly out of need.

Meanwhile, two undrafted free agents (Jose' and Naji) are higher on the Pelican food chain than any of our first round picks absent # 1.
03-11-2023, 09:21 PM
djrnno

This team's new name should be brick city
03-11-2023, 09:25 PM
RobertM320

19 turnovers in THREE quarters. I guess the refs figured they'd done enough damage. OKC only had two FTAs that quarter.
03-11-2023, 09:26 PM
stevemadden504

On another note we are without bi and Zion our 2 main guys that's 50+ points between the 2 that's missing. If we have them both healthy by the playoffs I don't see why we couldn't make a strong championship push
03-11-2023, 09:31 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevemadden504

On another note we are without bi and Zion our 2 main guys that's 50+ points between the 2 that's missing. If we have them both healthy by the playoffs I don't see why we couldn't make a strong championship push

Neither one of them help us defensively.
03-11-2023, 09:46 PM
RobertM320

Makes you understand why players like Draymond get the number of techs they do. The refs are so pathetic, that sometimes the frustration just gets to you. These players make enough money, I'm not sure why more of them just don't get in the officials face and call them out, and pay whatever the fine is. Kind of the way baseball managers do when they argue a call. If they get ejected they just let loose.
03-11-2023, 09:58 PM
As I See It

Well my take away from tonight's game.....

Unlike the last game, tonight's game thread made it to a second page, and JAX played 30+ minutes.
03-11-2023, 10:09 PM
ragincaucasian

Quote:

Originally Posted by As I See It

Well my take away from tonight's game.....

Unlike the last game, tonight's game thread made it to a second page, and JAX played 30+ minutes.

I'm still here, but i'm about as apathetic as a fan can be.

Our best players are CONSTANTLY injured, and i'm not wasting my time watching a coach who won't even experiment or evolve.

Being a good motivator/players coach only gets you so far...then you actually have to gameplan. And this coach seems to be very limited in imagination.
03-11-2023, 10:14 PM
6warddude

some played heavy mins and we also play tomorrow...
03-11-2023, 10:24 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6warddude

some played heavy mins and we also play tomorrow...

.....and Tuesday's game 'could' be a blood bath.
03-12-2023, 01:51 AM
redrum

I will start this by saying, I am not bothered by Willie's coaching as much as most of you guys......BUT,
Last year when this team started to roll late in the season he had a starting line up of .....
CJ, Herb, BI, Jonas, and Jaxson.
This group thrived, Yet I don't think Willie has started these players together once this year???????
03-12-2023, 04:01 AM
Mrakar

Now is the point of the season where we need to decide if we fight for that #10 in the West, or we fight for that #25 spot in league...
Without Jose and Nance this team has no energy, Herb and Dyson are playing hard but they are calm and composed and they don't bring any energy. Without Zion and with CJ and Ingram playing like they are, we can't win without energy, so i would say it is better to go for that #25 since we are not getting that #10, and even if we get it we are out in first game...
03-12-2023, 11:41 AM
msusousaphone

No coach is going to win in the NBA with CJ and JV as their two superstars. I love those guys, but they're definitely just great #3s or 4s on a great team. I know it kills a message board to be so simplistic but the bottom line is that with BI and Zion healthy we are contenders, with just BI we are a play in team, with neither of them we are a lottery team. The coach doesn't make a difference.
03-12-2023, 12:14 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by msusousaphone

No coach is going to win in the NBA with CJ and JV as their two superstars. I love those guys, but they're definitely just great #3s or 4s on a great team. I know it kills a message board to be so simplistic but the bottom line is that with BI and Zion healthy we are contenders, with just BI we are a play in team, with neither of them we are a lottery team. The coach doesn't make a difference.

Strongly disagree.

The coach (coaches) provides for the plan of attack (they have to be able to develop a game plan and implement it game by game...you don't attack the Thunder in the same manner as you do the Bucks). They have to be able to adjust on the fly (when x is not working, they have to recognize it and adjust, instantaneously, to allow for it). This coach has to 'push the right buttons' (adjust their personnel to provide for the best possible outcome). They have to develop their personnel (nobody, early in their career, is a finished product...not a lawyer, a doctor, a salesman and least of all, a 20/21/22 year old basketball player). Lastly, they have to 'have' their players (There is a difference between being liked as a person and being respected as a professional).

Bottom line:

- Front Office supplies players for the coaches.
- Coaches develop a team's on-the-court identity (vision)
- Players execute the coach's vision.

In my humble opinion, this team is failing on all three levels. I'll concede that we are not "BOWING DOWN". Instead, we are "FALLING DOWN" (again and again and again).
03-12-2023, 02:03 PM
PaKwAn

Quote:

Originally Posted by msusousaphone

No coach is going to win in the NBA with CJ and JV as their two superstars. I love those guys, but they're definitely just great #3s or 4s on a great team. I know it kills a message board to be so simplistic but the bottom line is that with BI and Zion healthy we are contenders, with just BI we are a play in team, with neither of them we are a lottery team. The coach doesn't make a difference.

It is somewhat true but then you see a team like the Grizz who despite not having their best player and multiple key guys still play effectively. They have a system that works despite missing there key guys. It was like that last year as well. And you look at that roster and you check ours you'd be thinking why the hell can't we be like that cause it seems that we have more talent than they have.
03-12-2023, 02:38 PM
As I See It

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaKwAn

It is somewhat true but then you see a team like the Grizz who despite not having their best player and multiple key guys still play effectively. They have a system that works despite missing there key guys. It was like that last year as well. And you look at that roster and you check ours you'd be thinking why the hell can't we be like that cause it seems that we have more talent than they have.

May I suggest that their talent is more well-rounded than ours which is more Boom or Bust, or my designation: "Flash or Crash" (think JAX)? There's a reason that we turned to JRich as soon as he got here this year...just like we turned to Tony Snell and (to a lesser extent) Gary Clark last year, and James Johnson and Sindarius Thornwell the year before that. I'm afraid, just like all home fans do around the league, we are severely overrating our talent (talent and potential are two different animals).

But to what you suggest, of course you are right, Memphis' coaching outclasses ours by miles.
03-12-2023, 04:40 PM
DaFranchise80

Quote:

Originally Posted by As I See It

May I suggest that their talent is more well-rounded than ours which is more Boom or Bust, or my designation: "Flash or Crash" (think JAX)? There's a reason that we turned to JRich as soon as he got here this year...just like we turned to Tony Snell and (to a lesser extent) Gary Clark last year, and James Johnson and Sindarius Thornwell the year before that. I'm afraid, just like all home fans do around the league, we are severely overrating our talent (talent and potential are two different animals).

But to what you suggest, of course you are right, Memphis' coaching outclasses ours by miles.

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