February 4th - New Orleans Pelicans @ Denver Nuggets - 19-32

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On the road again.

What is wrong with NAW’s head? Much like how many licks does it take to get to the tootsie roll center of a tootsie pop…

NAW comes in and turn the ball over 2 straight times smh...

Pelicans need to work on their fast breaks.

this game sucks for me..every time we get something going, denver come down and hit 3s....

This is a great freaking game! I did not expect to have this much fun watching.

Jaxson looks great at the 4.

Pelicans got some fight in them. But they do need that person who can be their calm in the storm or should I say the brains on the court for them.

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Originally Posted by PELSGIRL

should I say the brains on the court for them.

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Just take out NAW and you gain alot of that.

Jaxson Hayes is having a game.

Herb Jones is amazing.

So Jax haters......we finish or we done?

The best and most complete game of the season!

Pretty amazing. Ingram with 12 assists, Jax with a double-double (22-11) and perfect from the field (9-9), and Herb scored 10 of the last 16 points in crunch time.

Good Game. Thought it would end like the Cavs one but they didn't let the lead go in this one.

NAW is really the only issue for me, player wise. Ofc Temple too but again think that's just b/c of our guard play and the injuries we have had.

Definitely a game for the motto of, "stay the course be patient". Seems like most of us are either loving or hating Jaxson and it changes from month to month. Should help his trade value with this recent play at worst. But he definitely looks much, much better at 4.

well since we taking a victory lap on hayes..i was the first and only poster saying jax should play the 4 so he can free style on defense and help rim protect.....

he has to understand who he is guarding at the 3pt line so he can play better help defense and stop guard penetration on defense...he also has to shoot the 3 on offense because teams are not guarding him while he is behind the 3pt line...teams are laying off doubling jonas making it hard for him to score now....

I dont think it matters where he plays. He was equally good at the 4 or 5 with Jonas in foul trouble tonight.

But on message boards and for fans in general, patience for young players is scarce.

Yeah, Jaxson at the 4 has everybody like wait a min. Not so fast on that trade. Lol.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

I dont think it matters where he plays. He was equally good at the 4 or 5 with Jonas in foul trouble tonight.

But on message boards and for fans in general, patience for young players is scarce.

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We knew/know he was a project when he was drafted. His first few years were a mess. His offseasons were screwed (in fairness, so were everyone else's, at least to some extent, though they didn't have the legal issues Jax did). Coaching changes.

And yet for some reason whenever he's played, he's shown signs of growth and improvement, and whenever his minutes have stabilised we've seen his game shine again.

And here it is again.

He's 100% from 2pt range since joining the starting lineup, by the way, for those who are keeping track.

Say what you want about NAW but he played great defense tonight. If we can somehow offload Sat, Temple, and Hart for a shooter then we might be contenders for the play in at least


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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Say what you want about NAW but he played great defense tonight. If we can somehow offload Sat, Temple, and Hart for a shooter then we might be contenders for the play in at least


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They are contenders for that spot now. Only 0.5 games out and the team in front of them might be throwing in the towel.

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well since we taking a victory lap on hayes..i was the first and only poster saying jax should play the 4 so he can free style on defense and help rim protect.....

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WAT. seems like many people have said we should try him at the 4 for a long time.

Did y'all see how while time was still left on the clock and we were dribbling the ball out, Jokic walked across the court to seek out Herb and congratulate him? Pretty sure it was Herb. He was zeroing in on him and the camera cut off right as he reached him.

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

Say what you want about NAW but he played great defense tonight. If we can somehow offload Sat, Temple, and Hart for a shooter then we might be contenders for the play in at least


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He's had some great flashes of great defensive play with mostly solid D play the past month or so, yeah.

Offensively he just seems to lack instincts. Like....he has what he's going to do in his head and he doesn't change it no matter what the defense starts doing. Everything has to be preplanned.

Herb has every bit of star potential.

We have our big 3 and Jonas aswell

I don't want to trade Jax now unless for a super good guard

Yeah, I saw Jokic moving in Herb's direction. I noticed JV was there too. Could have been for both of them. Game recognizes game.

Game does recognize game

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Originally Posted by PELSGIRL

Yeah, I saw Jokic moving in Herb's direction. I noticed JV was there too. Could have been for both of them. Game recognizes game.

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Love it


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Originally Posted by AusPel

Herb has every bit of star potential.

We have our big 3 and Jonas aswell

I don't want to trade Jax now unless for a super good guard

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Herb got Kawhi flashes big time...

I have big men blue balls.

First we get Boogie. And right as him and AD are starting to flash dominance....pop....

Then we get Zion and there is like a week where I know AD is still going to leave, but hey, a man can dream. But AD still goes to daddy.

Then we get Zion and Adams....oh....ok. I can just picture those two splitting minutes and absolutely abusing teams for 48 minutes straight. But it never really gets to click.

Then we get JV...and same thing, I immediately start to think about how there isn't a single team equipped to handle that duo.....yet here we are....without them having played a min together.

And now Jax is showing some greatness at the 4. I mean. Come on. That would be 48 straight minutes of either Zion/JV, Zion/Hayes, and JV/Hayes on the court at all times. No team can guard that. No team can withstand us!

But the frustration of anticipation has me so ripe I can't walk straight no more.

Will they ever get to play together?

I horribly feel like Jax is gonna be traded

Zion and AD never played together

Who said before the season they would have preferred Jared Butler over Herb Jones? couldnt be me.

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Who said before the season they would have preferred Jared Butler over Herb Jones? couldnt be me.

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They could have had both. Herb at 35 and Butler at 40.

Pels are so much more exciting when Garrett Temple isn’t playing.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

I dont think it matters where he plays. He was equally good at the 4 or 5 with Jonas in foul trouble tonight.

But on message boards and for fans in general, patience for young players is scarce.

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i mean it matters for the people who dont see the bright side.....he is not a good 5 because he get beat down by bigger centers and he dont rebound well there....billy and hayes can play the same mins at the 5 and billy will out shine him in points and rebounds....billy would have some double doubles and hayes would avg like 5 rebounds...

hayes at the 4 is a all around better player because he dont have to get physical with players on either end...he can free style on defense and give good weakside help...on offense he can have energy to run the floor all day getting his dunks and easy soft touches....he wont have the main responsibility guarding a scoring center and getting in foul trouble....playing him next to jonas or billy just makes the game easy for him and that make it easy for the team.....he just need to shoot the 3 ball to help make jonas life easy when he is playing with him.....

problem is, when zion come back then how many mins will hayes get in order to be productive....

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Originally Posted by Pelifan

Who said before the season they would have preferred Jared Butler over Herb Jones? couldnt be me.

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Butler is a Louisiana native, so I wouldn’t mind him over Temple in that role.

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Originally Posted by donato

WAT. seems like many people have said we should try him at the 4 for a long time.

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i see i said that last part wrong but no player,,i was the first one leading that charge last season then van gundy gave me my wish by playing jax and billy together....the rest jumped on that train after.....

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Pels are so much more exciting when Garrett Temple isn’t playing.

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would we have even won this game with temple playing his 17mins?...

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

would we have even won this game with temple playing his 17mins?...

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More than likely not. If you look at his box scores, the team is usually negative with him on the court. I check it after every game and low and behold Temple is the player on the roster with the worst +/-. I know that’s not the best stat, but he’s consistently the worst player in that category.

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Originally Posted by 75saint

Zion and AD never played together

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Not what that sentence means. The trade happened after we the lottery balls told us we would be getting Zion. So there was a short period on this board where some people entertained the idea that playing with Zion would entice AD to stay. Nobody really believed it...but most of us still fantasized over the pairing.

What a game and what a win ! Wow! Don’t stop now!

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What a game and what a win ! Wow! Don’t stop now!

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Best game of the Zion Williamson "Error"!!

TIC

Just looked at some of the team's advanced stats for the first time in weeks.

Herb Jones is now averaging 9.6/3.8/2.0 pts/rbds/asts per game.

Shooting 54% from 2, 37% from 3 (2 a game) and 84% from the FT line (adding up to 58.4%TS, a little over league average).

2.5%STL, 2.9%BLK - these are very good. +10.3 on/off. +0.5 EPM, 133r in the NBA, 73rd percentile as a rookie.

Compared with other prominent rookies this year:
Cade: -0.1 (173rd overall, 65th percentile)
Mobley: +1.7 (77th overall, 84th percentile)

His EPM is just a touch better than Mikal Bridges, Tyrese Haliburton, Cole Anthony, and Carmelo Anthony - it's just behind Tyrese Maxey, CJ McCollum, Kenrich Williams and Jusuf Nurkic.

He's been legitimately very good. All Rookie First Team, no doubt.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Just looked at some of the team's advanced stats for the first time in weeks.

Herb Jones is now averaging 9.6/3.8/2.0 pts/rbds/asts per game.

Shooting 54% from 2, 37% from 3 (2 a game) and 84% from the FT line (adding up to 58.4%TS, a little over league average).

2.5%STL, 2.9%BLK - these are very good. +10.3 on/off. +0.5 EPM, 133r in the NBA, 73rd percentile as a rookie.

Compared with other prominent rookies this year:
Cade: -0.1 (173rd overall, 65th percentile)
Mobley: +1.7 (77th overall, 84th percentile)

His EPM is just a touch better than Mikal Bridges, Tyrese Haliburton, Cole Anthony, and Carmelo Anthony - it's just behind Tyrese Maxey, CJ McCollum, Kenrich Williams and Jusuf Nurkic.

He's been legitimately very good. All Rookie First Team, no doubt.

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THE GOATED ONE

I see what you’re saying now ����
Good point