What?s Happening to the Lakers and AD is my Christmas present

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12-24-2021, 09:48 PM
AtlPelsFan

What?s Happening to the Lakers and AD is my Christmas present

I just love the destruction thats happening over there and the blame AD is starting to get. People thought I was crazy when I said we would get a decent draft pick from them this year and its looking good. Im already hearing rumors about them wanting to trade AD because of Westbrooks contract situation. Im loving it
12-25-2021, 10:10 AM
13 - 3

Darren Collison. Remember him?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ls-sources-say

He going to save the Lakers?
12-25-2021, 12:22 PM
AusPel

Yep. Same draft as Marcus Thornton
12-25-2021, 03:17 PM
13 - 3

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Yep. Same draft as Marcus Thornton

We could use another LSU player right now.
12-25-2021, 07:18 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by 13 - 3

Darren Collison. Remember him?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ls-sources-say

He going to save the Lakers?

The Blur-de-bee?
12-25-2021, 09:43 PM
13 - 3

Who dressed Anthony Davis tonight? That outfit looked horrible.
12-25-2021, 09:52 PM
AtlPelsFan

Another Loss for them. I am loving it.
12-26-2021, 02:51 PM
luckyman

I believe that Lakers pick is only top 10 protected. So a long way to go before it stays with the Pelicans.
12-26-2021, 08:55 PM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by luckyman

I believe that Lakers pick is only top 10 protected. So a long way to go before it stays with the Pelicans.

That or they get lucky, or unlucky, in the draft.
12-26-2021, 10:38 PM
AusPel

Utah owes us it's 2022 second round, but it's been forfeited because of the tampering or whatever.

Does that mean we get nothing?
12-28-2021, 02:37 AM
msusousaphone

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Originally Posted by AusPel

Utah owes us it's 2022 second round, but it's been forfeited because of the tampering or whatever.

Does that mean we get nothing?

They probably lose the next one they still have.
12-28-2021, 10:21 AM
Century City

I posted this on the other thread about the Lakers but figured I'd put it here as well.

I guess the question is who is more to blame for their struggles. AD or Russ?

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/vie...d232988b98ff32
12-28-2021, 11:31 AM
UNO Gracias

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Originally Posted by Century City

I posted this on the other thread about the Lakers but figured I'd put it here as well.

I guess the question is who is more to blame for their struggles. AD or Russ?

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/vie...d232988b98ff32

I saw that appreciated that post (I don’t visit that forum). Yes, who didn’t see Russ Westbrook being the fly in that ointment? Everyone (but the Lakers) saw that being a bad mix before the trade was finalized. Oh well.

What’s going to ******** me off is when teams come to the Lakers aid to help them move these bad contracts off their books. Someone is going to trade for Westbrook, or AD (I doubt they will move LBJ since he is the NBA). But some teams will be happy to make this trade to get them out of cap hell, when as currently constructed the Lakers won’t be title contenders.
12-28-2021, 12:00 PM
Century City

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I saw that appreciated that post (I don’t visit that forum). Yes, who didn’t see Russ Westbrook being the fly in that ointment? Everyone (but the Lakers) saw that being a bad mix before the trade was finalized. Oh well.

What’s going to ******** me off is when teams come to the Lakers aid to help them move these bad contracts off their books. Someone is going to trade for Westbrook, or AD (I doubt they will move LBJ since he is the NBA). But some teams will be happy to make this trade to get them out of cap hell, when as currently constructed the Lakers won’t be title contenders.

I don't see it happening. Those contracts will just hamper the team trading for it.

The Lakers aren't as popular among rival teams as we think. If it really was that important to the rest of the league to have the Lakers be good, they would just cave to the players during collective bargaining and make it easier for big markets to horde talent. As it stands, the salary cap, luxury tax and revenue sharing HURT the Lakers and other big market teams. The Lakers get good because players want to go there and because agents like to bully teams into trading for their guy as was the case with AD but rival teams aren't going to help them out.

I will add that the only time the league could legally block a trade was when they actually owned one of it's franchises. That was the then NOLA Hornets of course and it was the Lakers who got the shaft on that historic move and it was the supposedly hated by the league Hornets that were saved from moving when 1) the league bought them and 2) sold it to local ownership.
12-30-2021, 10:18 PM
fullcourtpress

pardon my ignorance, but what does top ten protected mean in regards to us and the Lakers pick?
12-31-2021, 10:38 AM
clark griswald

Lakers pick goes to Grizzlies for Valanciunis
12-31-2021, 12:56 PM
Century City

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

pardon my ignorance, but what does top ten protected mean in regards to us and the Lakers pick?

This means that the Lakers keep the pick if it's in the top 10. Anywhere from 11-30 and the Pelicans get the pick.

If the Lakers do keep the pick this year if it falls in the top 10, then the Pelicans get in whatever year it falls out of the top 10. Not sure what the provisions are for this exact pick but lots of times, teams have a sliding scale meaning it could be top 10 protected this year but if the Lakers keep it then it's top 8 protected next year then top 6 and so on. Not sure how it works for this particular deal though.
12-31-2021, 01:26 PM
donato

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Originally Posted by Century City

This means that the Lakers keep the pick if it's in the top 10. Anywhere from 11-30 and the Pelicans get the pick.

If the Lakers do keep the pick this year if it falls in the top 10, then the Pelicans get in whatever year it falls out of the top 10. Not sure what the provisions are for this exact pick but lots of times, teams have a sliding scale meaning it could be top 10 protected this year but if the Lakers keep it then it's top 8 protected next year then top 6 and so on. Not sure how it works for this particular deal though.

I don't think that's right. I think the Grizzlies get the Laker's pick if it's 11-30, and the Pelicans get the pick if it's top 10.

Regarding our own pick, it's lottery protected. We keep it if it is a lottery pick, if it's not it goes to the Hornets.
12-31-2021, 01:36 PM
donato

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/dr...rafts/detailed

(under Lakers): 2022 first round draft pick to New Orleans or Memphis
L.A. Lakers' 2022 1st round pick to New Orleans protected for selection 11-30 or to Memphis (via New Orleans) protected for selections 1-10; if this pick is not conveyed to Memphis, then Memphis will instead receive Cleveland's 2022 2nd round pick (via Atlanta to New Orleans) and New Orleans' 2025 2nd round pick (L.A. Lakers' obligation to New Orleans or Memphis will thereafter be extinguished) [L.A. Lakers-New Orleans-Washington, 7/6/2019; Charlotte-Memphis-New Orleans, 8/7/2021]

(under New Orleans): 2022 first round draft pick to Charlotte
New Orleans' 2022 1st round pick to Charlotte protected for selections 1-14; if this pick falls within its protected range and is therefore not conveyed, then New Orleans will instead convey its 2022 2nd round pick and 2024 2nd round pick to Charlotte [Charlotte-Memphis-New Orleans, 8/7/2021]
12-31-2021, 01:37 PM
ml wave

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Originally Posted by Century City

This means that the Lakers keep the pick if it's in the top 10. Anywhere from 11-30 and the Pelicans get the pick.

If the Lakers do keep the pick this year if it falls in the top 10, then the Pelicans get in whatever year it falls out of the top 10. Not sure what the provisions are for this exact pick but lots of times, teams have a sliding scale meaning it could be top 10 protected this year but if the Lakers keep it then it's top 8 protected next year then top 6 and so on. Not sure how it works for this particular deal though.

This isn't exactly right...we get the Lakers pick regardless of where it falls, they can't keep it. If it is outside of the top 10, our trade for JV means we will send the pick to Memphis. If it is in the top 10, we get it.
12-31-2021, 01:37 PM
Century City

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Originally Posted by donato

I don't think that's right. I think the Grizzlies get the Laker's pick if it's 11-30, and the Pelicans get the pick if it's top 10.

Regarding our own pick, it's lottery protected. We keep it if it is a lottery pick, if it's not it goes to the Hornets.

Thanks for the correction. In that case, let's hope Lebron gets sick of Russ and decides to shut it down this year and they fall to the bottom of the west. 2 picks in the top 5 would look great.
12-31-2021, 01:43 PM
Century City

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Originally Posted by ml wave

This isn't exactly right...we get the Lakers pick regardless of where it falls, they can't keep it. If it is outside of the top 10, our trade for JV means we will send the pick to Memphis. If it is in the top 10, we get it.

Thanks for the correction. This is a complicated trade. My explanation was how these protected trades usually go.
02-16-2022, 10:34 PM
13 - 3

He is injured again.
02-16-2022, 11:23 PM
AUSSIE_PELICAN

So the best we can get is pick 11 from this draft if the Lakers bomb.

Prot. 1-10 >>>>goes to Mem
11-30 >>>>goes to Pels

Better than nothing, but we aren't getting anything decent with pick 11.

https://www.tankathon.com/lakers
02-16-2022, 11:49 PM
AUSSIE_PELICAN

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

So the best we can get is pick 11 from this draft if the Lakers bomb.

Prot. 1-10 >>>>goes to Mem
11-30 >>>>goes to Pels

Better than nothing, but we aren't getting anything decent with pick 11.

https://www.tankathon.com/lakers

Nevermind

Tankathon is wrong.

Prot. 1-10 >>>>goes to Pels
11-30 >>>>goes to Mem
02-16-2022, 11:57 PM
13 - 3

Lakers are better without Davis on the court. Makes you wonder
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zeWsyLTxXTw
02-17-2022, 01:27 AM
msusousaphone

I usually try to stay classy with injuries but since this is Anthony That's All Folks Davis....

Mardi Gras done come early, bad!

Dance New Orleans GIFfrom Dance GIFs
02-17-2022, 09:14 AM
neworleanshoo

So is it confirmed that we only get their pick this year if it's 1-10? (Otherwise the Grizz get it?)

Also our #1 pick is 5-14 protected, right?

Neither is noted on Tank-a-thon.. if both are true, seems a legit shot we could wind up with both firsts this year.
02-17-2022, 10:37 AM
donato

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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo

So is it confirmed that we only get their pick this year if it's 1-10? (Otherwise the Grizz get it?)

Also our #1 pick is 5-14 protected, right?

Neither is noted on Tank-a-thon.. if both are true, seems a legit shot we could wind up with both firsts this year.

We lose the Laker's pick if it's not top 10.

We lose our own pick if it's not top 4.
02-17-2022, 11:21 AM
neworleanshoo

Ok - Andrew Lopez reported that it was "No. 5 to 14 protected for 2022" - but that means it's protected for Portland, not us?

If so - we get our pick this year if it's top 4 or later than 14? And they would get our #1 next year?
02-17-2022, 12:33 PM
P_B_&_G

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Originally Posted by neworleanshoo

Ok - Andrew Lopez reported that it was "No. 5 to 14 protected for 2022" - but that means it's protected for Portland, not us?

If so - we get our pick this year if it's top 4 or later than 14? And they would get our #1 next year?

Top 4 we keep it. 5 to 14 goes to Portland, 15 or later goes to Charlotte for the Graham trade. Or I might have the teams backwards. Either way if it isnt top 4 we don't keep it.
02-17-2022, 01:17 PM
6warddude

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

I usually try to stay classy with injuries but since this is Anthony That's All Folks Davis....

Mardi Gras done come early, bad!

Dance New Orleans GIFfrom Dance GIFs

to live and let die lol....
02-17-2022, 09:12 PM
donato

Lakers star Anthony Davis has been diagnosed with mid-foot sprain on right foot and will be re-evaluated in four weeks.
— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) February 18, 2022
02-18-2022, 12:33 AM
msusousaphone

...Confusion... GIFfrom Curb Your Enthusiasm GIFs

Could have been better, could have been worse.
02-18-2022, 03:55 PM
Century City

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

Top 4 we keep it. 5 to 14 goes to Portland, 15 or later goes to Charlotte for the Graham trade. Or I might have the teams backwards. Either way if it isnt top 4 we don't keep it.

This is correct. Pelicans made sure to make it top 4 protected just in case they get lucky in the lottery since the lottery now decides the top 4 instead of just top 3.

It's looking good for Portland. Odds are always against a bottom of the lottery team getting into the top 4 and at the same time, the Pelicans are on the outside looking in for the playoffs.
02-21-2022, 02:47 PM
msusousaphone

So. In not overreacting to Zion news/lack of news, Goran Dragic appears to be signing with the Nets. Which is amazing to me because I thought for sure he'd go to LAL.

Yay.