Have y’all heard this story on Cousins?

Warning it has language. TMZ has audio up on this now.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demar...efore-wedding/

https://deadspin.com/demarcus-cousin...-go-1837623964

Thoughts?

Career done ? This is blowing up quick

https://sports.yahoo.com/lakers-look...194924463.html

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The Los Angeles Lakers are investigating allegations that All-Star center DeMarcus Cousins threatened his ex-girlfriend’s life if she did not allow their 7-year-old son to attend his wedding to Morgan Lang this past weekend, according to multiple reports.

“We are aware of the allegation involving DeMarcus Cousins and, of course, take this claim seriously,” the Lakers said in a statement

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Dell Demps best move as Pelican General Manager: Waving Good-Bye to this dumpster fire.

Yeah, I've heard it.

Cousins' behaviour is unacceptable. I get that he was upset, and he has the right to be, but you cannot go around making threats like that. It's just not going to fly. That kind of thing is absolutely disgraceful, and frankly, if I knew someone was the kind of person who would make those threats I wouldn't want a kid around them either. That's worrying and says a lot about his character. Just a disgrace.

Even more disgusting is the number of people I've seen on Twitter rushing to defend him because she was being petty in the first place. Doesn't matter to me: maybe she had a good reason for it, maybe she didn't, I don't know, but even if she was being petty that doesn't excuse Cousins' response.

He should be ashamed of himself, and everyone defending him should be too. Appalling.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Yeah, I've heard it.

Cousins' behaviour is unacceptable. I get that he was upset, and he has the right to be, but you cannot go around making threats like that. It's just not going to fly. That kind of thing is absolutely disgraceful, and frankly, if I knew someone was the kind of person who would make those threats I wouldn't want a kid around them either. That's worrying and says a lot about his character. Just a disgrace.

Even more disgusting is the number of people I've seen on Twitter rushing to defend him because she was being petty in the first place. Doesn't matter to me: maybe she had a good reason for it, maybe she didn't, I don't know, but even if she was being petty that doesn't excuse Cousins' response.

He should be ashamed of himself, and everyone defending him should be too. Appalling.

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really shouldn't be surprised by the ppl on twitter lol twitter is trash and it's the beat places for those kind of ppl

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

really shouldn't be surprised by the ppl on twitter lol twitter is trash and it's the beat places for those kind of ppl

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Yeah, honestly, someone defending Cousins in this situation is a huge red flag that just screams of pretty deep underlying problems with women.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Yeah, honestly, someone defending Cousins in this situation is a huge red flag that just screams of pretty deep underlying problems with women.

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yeah and with out knowing the entire situation and I mean hey he could be in the right of being pissed but telling her hes gonna shoot her in the head? naaaah idk how you defend that

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

yeah and with out knowing the entire situation and I mean hey he could be in the right of being pissed but telling her hes gonna shoot her in the head? naaaah idk how you defend that

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Exactly, I get being annoyed, angry, frustrated, whatever. Obviously you want your kid at your wedding, that's totally fair to be upset at someone who is preventing that. But you just cannot threaten to shoot people in the head for it, that's just psychopathic.

And the whole ''oh well, she shouldn't have made him angry, she's a b***h, she shouldn't be refusing, she's just being petty, she deserves what's coming to her!'' angle is deeply, deeply disturbing. Tells me more about the person making the argument than it does Cousins or the woman in question.

completely agree.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Yeah, honestly, someone defending Cousins in this situation is a huge red flag that just screams of pretty deep underlying problems with women.

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Do you have kids?

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

Do you have kids?

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No, but I did have an abusive father and frankly threatening extreme violence on the child's mother for refusing contact rings more than a few bells.

What, you gonna tell me that if you have kids, suddenly threatening to shoot people is reasonable and justifiable?

lonzo has baby momma drama also....his baby momma is bitter as hell but lonzo still defend her when people call her out......my thing with lonzo is that he just takes the abuse from her and hold it in..some point that frustration has to come out and i hope he dont find himself in a messed up situation....i think he uses basketball as a way to deal with his baby momma drama.....i think being in new orleans is the best thing for him and people think his dad is his problem.....

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

lonzo has baby momma drama also....his baby momma is bitter as hell but lonzo still defend her when people call her out......my thing with lonzo is that he just takes the abuse from her and hold it in..some point that frustration has to come out and i hope he dont find himself in a messed up situation....i think he uses basketball as a way to deal with his baby momma drama.....i think being in new orleans is the best thing for him and people think his dad is his problem.....

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well what is he supposed to do go on a rant about her and make things worse? I mean it seems to me he's being an adult about the entire thing instead of just creating more drama for his self

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

No, but I did have an abusive father and frankly threatening extreme violence on the child's mother for refusing contact rings more than a few bells.

What, you gonna tell me that if you have kids, suddenly threatening to shoot people is reasonable and justifiable?

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People who have kids tend to get emotional if someone tries to take their child away. Cousins baby mama wants to make sure that he doesn't get custody of their child, hence why she was baiting him with the secretly recorded phone call and using their child as a pawn in the game.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

No, but I did have an abusive father and frankly threatening extreme violence on the child's mother for refusing contact rings more than a few bells.

What, you gonna tell me that if you have kids, suddenly threatening to shoot people is reasonable and justifiable?

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i could be wrong but i think they are asking because bitter parents with kids do foul stuff to each other all the times....both male and females....and alot of people dont like to acknowledge that females do the same type of foul stuff when kids are involved.......people know cousins was wrong but some of those people knew why he said it because they are or went through the same stuff with a baby momma or baby daddy and thats real talk but some people are going to act like its not and only one sided.......

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

People who have kids tend to get emotional if someone tries to take their child away. Cousins baby mama wants to make sure that he doesn't get custody of their child, hence why she was baiting him with the secretly recorded phone call and using their child as a pawn in the game.

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And that makes it acceptable for him to threaten to shoot her in the head?

Listen to yourself. Demarcus Cousins, a grown adult with bordering on three decades of life experience, got into a dispute over whether his child would be allowed to attend his wedding, and his reaction was to threaten to blow someone's brains out, and your first instinct is to rush and try to justify that? Ask yourself what your priorities are.

For God's sake, maybe she's got a point: we don't know the ins and outs of their relationship, and if he's the type of guy in his private life to blow his top and threaten murder, then he SHOULDN'T be around kids in any capacity anyway. If she made that play to get him to react, then that means she knows his character well enough to expect him to make that kind of threat.

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

well what is he supposed to do go on a rant about her and make things worse? I mean it seems to me he's being an adult about the entire thing instead of just creating more drama for his self

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thats what im saying that lonzo handle his different damn......but i hope he dont go off and say something hard and find himself in a messed up situation.....

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

i could be wrong but i think they are asking because bitter parents with kids do foul stuff to each other all the times....both male and females....and alot of people dont like to acknowledge that females do the same type of foul stuff when kids are involved.......people know cousins was wrong but some of those people knew why he said it because they are or went through the same stuff with a baby momma or baby daddy and thats real talk but some people are going to act like its not and only one sided.......

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I'm not trying to speak on their relation as a whole. I don't know anything about it. Maybe it's 100% true that she is a horrible woman, who is conniving, backstabbing, cruel, capricious, manipulative, whatever. Maybe she was trying to bait him him to blowing up. Maybe she was using the child as a pawn in the game. Maybe. I don't know, and I can't say.

But even if all of that is true, you know as well as I do that Cousins reacted horribly. What he said is not justified, and the fact that the number 1 priority for a lot of these dudes is to rush to try and justify murder threats is a real problem. Anyone who sees this case and has the first instinct to justify Cousins threatening to blow someone's head off needs to be doing some reflection.

And if your past experiences with women lead you to that point, then you need therapy.

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

thats what im saying that lonzo handle his different damn......but i hope he dont go off and say something hard and find himself in a messed up situation.....

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if it's as bad as you say it is and he hasn't yet I doubt he will

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

I'm not trying to speak on their relation as a whole. I don't know anything about it. Maybe it's 100% true that she is a horrible woman, who is conniving, backstabbing, cruel, capricious, manipulative, whatever. Maybe she was trying to bait him him to blowing up. Maybe she was using the child as a pawn in the game. Maybe. I don't know, and I can't say.

But even if all of that is true, you know as well as I do that Cousins reacted horribly. What he said is not justified, and the fact that the number 1 priority for a lot of these dudes is to rush to try and justify murder threats is a real problem. Anyone who sees this case and has the first instinct to justify Cousins threatening to blow someone's head off needs to be doing some reflection.

And if your past experiences with women lead you to that point, then you need therapy.

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yeah I mean you can condemn him for what he said and still defend him for being angry about the situation but thinking what he said is okay is just nuts and you may need a therapist

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

And that makes it acceptable for him to threaten to shoot her in the head?

Listen to yourself. Demarcus Cousins, a grown adult with bordering on three decades of life experience, got into a dispute over whether his child would be allowed to attend his wedding, and his reaction was to threaten to blow someone's brains out, and your first instinct is to rush and try to justify that? Ask yourself what your priorities are.

For God's sake, maybe she's got a point: we don't know the ins and outs of their relationship, and if he's the type of guy in his private life to blow his top and threaten murder, then he SHOULDN'T be around kids in any capacity anyway. If she made that play to get him to react, then that means she knows his character well enough to expect him to make that kind of threat.

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My priority is the child. What is your priority?

Grown people are not immune from an emotional outburst when being separated from their children. The report specifically says that she wants to make it so Cousins can never have even partial custody of his son. Not wedding, not birthday, not holidays, not weekends.

Do you think the woman sounded frightened for her life in that recording? It didn’t sound to me like she believed Cousins would harm her. It sounded like she was pleased about being able to prevent his son from attending his wedding, and even more pleased about provoking an emotional response from him on tape.

and how exactly is threatening to shoot the kids mother in the head make the kid a priority?

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

if it's as bad as you say it is and he hasn't yet I doubt he will

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when someone keep doing things to you because you are not together anymore then play games with your kids and you keep defending her when outsiders call her out then she keep doing stuff...as a human you are going to get frustrated at some point because you are human...them emotions kick in and you dont know what will come out your mouth or what you would do.......to me lonzo uses basketball as his outlet and i hope whatever he is doing that has him dealing with it continual to keep him calm about it in my eyes.....but if he go off on her and say some crazy things to her,,alot of people would understand why and not judge him for it....

things happen between bitter parents and both sides say foul stuff when emotions kick in......like i said,,i just hope lonzo keep his cool...

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

My priority is the child. What is your priority?

Grown people are not immune from an emotional outburst when being separated from their children. The report specifically says that she wants to make it so Cousins can never have even partial custody of his son. Not wedding, not birthday, not holidays, not weekends.

Do you think the woman sounded frightened for her life in that recording? It didn’t sound to me like she believed Cousins would harm her. It sounded like she was pleased about being able to prevent his son from attending his wedding, and even more pleased about provoking an emotional response from him on tape.

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Like I said, I'm not speaking as to the details of the relationship. I don't know them, and neither do you.

Demarcus Cousins is a grown man. At damn near 30 years old, you should be not be reacting like that. I don't care if she was frightened or not. 29 year old adults with children need to be more mature, more controlled than that. Like bahmamamba said, how on earth is threatening to shoot her in the head at all helpful for his case? How does that help anyone? It doesn't. It's just the result of someone with real emotional issues and a lack of self control, and that's frankly not good enough for someone trying to be a father.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if you listen to a man threatening to blow a woman's brains out, and your first priority is to try and justify it, then you need to re-arrange your priorities. Your way of processing reality is jacked up. And if you think it's justified because she may or may not be a bad person as well, then you need therapy. And if you're 29 years old and have so little self control that you're threatening to paint walls with brain matter, then for God's sake, you need therapy too, because you are not in control of yourself.

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

and how exactly is threatening to shoot the kids mother in the head make the kid a priority?

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The kid having a relationship with his father is in the best interest of the child. Cousins emotional outburst in response to the mother’s actions was unfortunate and ill advised, although extreme anger and frustration should be expected I’m sure he wishes he had the wherewithal to have expressed it differently in the heat of the moment.

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Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth

The kid having a relationship with his father is in the best interest of the child. Cousins emotional outburst in response to the mother’s actions was unfortunate and ill advised, although extreme anger and frustration should be expected I’m sure he wishes he had the wherewithal to have expressed it differently in the heat of the moment.

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of course it is but not the type of father who can't handle his emotions like that. what happens when the kid pisses him off and he can't control his anger? is he going to say some crazy ******** like that to the kid or maybe he hits the kid who knows

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Originally Posted by bahmamamba

of course it is but not the type of father who can't handle his emotions like that. what happens when the kid pisses him off and he can't control his anger? is he going to say some crazy ******** like that to the kid or maybe he hits the kid who knows

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i feel you but thats not the case.....notice you dont here cousins is a bad father to the kid.....thats not the case here.....the mom know cousins and her will get into it and he will say foul stuff to her out of frustration because she is playing games with his kid and thats why she recorded phone conversations to use in her advantage for custody and sold the tape to tmz........if cousins was a bad father then she would be able to use that in court but he not,,this is all about abuse between the adults and you can say child support that she will lose if she dont have the kid....

cousins is his own worst enemy because he should have known she would be recording conversations between them to use.....he brought this on his self if it go wrong in court....

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Originally Posted by 6warddude

i feel you but thats not the case.....notice you dont here cousins is a bad father to the kid.....thats not the case here.....the mom know cousins and her will get into it and he will say foul stuff to her out of frustration because she is playing games with his kid and thats why she recorded phone conversations to use in her advantage for custody and sold the tape to tmz........if cousins was a bad father then she would be able to use that in court but he not,,this is all about abuse between the adults and you can say child support that she will lose if she dont have the kid....

cousins is his own worst enemy because he should have known she would be recording conversations between them to use.....he brought this on his self if it go wrong in court....

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yeah I'm not calling him a bad father I wouldn't know I'm just saying in general father who can't handle their emotions isn't a great situation to be in

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One in Alabama and the other Atlanta. Woof.

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

One in Alabama and the other Atlanta. Woof.

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Oh. Dang. People are defending this?

I have kids. I am divorced. I have been on the wrong side of someone trying to cut your time away from you because you are "just the dad". I am a father's rights advocate. I am a therapist that pushes 50/50 custody because it IS what is best for the child as long as one of the parents is not a danger physically, emotionally, and/or sexually. This is NOT ok. It is totally a sign that he cannot control himself and a person that cannot control themselves is a danger around a child. It is a major red flag as to why the kid is not going to the wedding.

There is absolutely, unequivocally, just no way that anyone can defend this or excuse it.

Oi.

Y'all got me going. This is the type of stuff that sets Father's Rights back. As fathers we need to speak out against this and distance ourselves from that behavior. Don't condone this abusive stuff.

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

There is absolutely, unequivocally, just no way that anyone can defend this or excuse it.

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Thank you! Between twitter and the discussion on here, I felt like everyone was going loopy

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

Oh. Dang. People are defending this?

I have kids. I am divorced. I have been on the wrong side of someone trying to cut your time away from you because you are "just the dad". I am a father's rights advocate. I am a therapist that pushes 50/50 custody because it IS what is best for the child as long as one of the parents is not a danger physically, emotionally, and/or sexually. This is NOT ok. It is totally a sign that he cannot control himself and a person that cannot control themselves is a danger around a child. It is a major red flag as to why the kid is not going to the wedding.

There is absolutely, unequivocally, just no way that anyone can defend this or excuse it.

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[QUOTE=msusousaphone;1504276]Oh. Dang. People are defending this?

It is totally a sign that he cannot control himself and a person that cannot control themselves is a danger around a child. It is a major red flag as to why the kid is not going to the wedding.
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i disagree with you on this.....just because a person vent out of frustration is not a sign a person can not control themselves.....i think majority of parents vent out of frustration at some point but do that mean they are a danger to their kids?...i think no.....no where in their court documents does she say he is a bad father to their son.....in their documents its all about those two adults...before the wedding it was about those two so its both of their fault.....now boogie words went to far and he may have to pay for that......she not letting the kid go to the wedding is not because of he is a danger to their kid.....it seem like she was being petty and poking for a convo to use in court and she got it....

also when a female knows your weakness they'll use that weakness as a tool against you .. When the mother of your child is holding the child that y'all share together as a hostage & keeping that child away on one of his dad's most important days says a whole lot about her .. She's childish immature & just down right selfish for keeping their son away on his dad's special day .. He'll have no pictures to share of them together so that means no memories to share together .. My question is I wonder does she act like that when he's sending her those child support checks he sends her every month .. She isn't to selfish to tell him keep your own money & she'll support her child with her own money ..

this is not a one sided thing...both of them are wrong....she is wrong for playing games using the kid as a pawn and he is wrong for getting to emotional with his words........but if boogie would had handle his business as a father when their child was born then he may not be in this situation by begging her to let their child attend his wedding......

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Thank you! Between twitter and the discussion on here, I felt like everyone was going loopy

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its 2 of us on here that dont see it all your way but point out which one of us that say boogie is right?...i think both of us agree that he was wrong but it also goes both ways....

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Originally Posted by msusousaphone

i disagree with you on this.....just because a person vent out of frustration is not a sign a person can not control themselves.....i think majority of parents vent out of frustration at some point but do that mean they are a danger to their kids?

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When I vent out of frustration, I might swear, maybe throw an insult or two, and storm out to go and calm down. I don't threaten to paint someone's walls with their brain. That's not venting, that's showing signs of serious, serious violent tendencies. Again, if frustrations = death threats for Cousins, he needs emotional support and anger management. He needs therapy, if that's the case.

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also when a female knows your weakness they'll use that weakness as a tool against you .. When the mother of your child is holding the child that y'all share together as a hostage & keeping that child away on one of his dad's most important days says a whole lot about her

this is not a one sided thing...both of them are wrong....she is wrong for playing games using the kid as a pawn and he is wrong for getting to emotional with his words

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It doesn't matter. She wasn't endangering him. She wasn't endangering their child by denying him attendance. Maybe you see that as wrong, and that's fair, but the way to deal with that is with words, with third party, impartial support and aid. You do not deal with that via threats of murder. His response was entirely out of proportion, irresponsible, stupid, and unacceptable. It doesn't matter whether she was using the kid for a pawn, it doesn't matter if ''a female'' knows his weakness or anything else: in a non-violent dispute, it is unacceptable for you to react with murder threats.

There's got to be a sense of scale here. You can't ''both sides'' this.

Is it wrong to stop your kid from going to their father's wedding? Sure, if the father is safe to be around, that's wrong.

Is it on the same scale as threatening to murder the child's mother? God no, it's not even in the same ballpark. Acting like these two things are just balancing on a scale is absurd, and it diminishes the wrongness of what Cousins did. Murder threats are not acceptable.

And that's even assuming that Cousins is safe to be around. I don't have kids myself, but I wouldn't want my nephews and nieces around someone that I knew would make murder threats whenever they were inconvenienced. It would be irresponsible for a parent to put a child in range of someone like that. If this is something Cousins is prone to, then I'd say she was justified in stopping the kid from going: that is a big if though, because we don't know if Cousins has done something like this before. If I had to guess, I'd say he probably has, because she didn't seem surprised by it, and if it was a trap like some people are arguing then clearly this is predictable behaviour for him. But that's just a guess, and even if it's wrong and this is the first time, he's STILL more wrong than she is.

Cannot believe that people are really going to bat for a man threatening to put a bullet through a woman's skull over a custody dispute. Jesus Christ.

There's something to the whole notion that some women have that ability to get in a man's head and push his buttons to bring out the absolute worst in him...

Problem with Cousins is I don't imagine that she has to work all that hard to get this kind of reaction out of him.

I saw Cousins in Costco **********ing at workers because no one was available to put this heavy safe on his basket for him. Complaining about how long it was taking, etc. Had his man servant doing all the work while he stood there.

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When I vent out of frustration, I might swear, maybe throw an insult or two, and storm out to go and calm down. I don't threaten to paint someone's walls with their brain. That's not venting, that's showing signs of serious, serious violent tendencies. Again, if frustrations = death threats for Cousins, he needs emotional support and anger management. He needs therapy, if that's the case.

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It doesn't matter. She wasn't endangering him. She wasn't endangering their child by denying him attendance. Maybe you see that as wrong, and that's fair, but the way to deal with that is with words, with third party, impartial support and aid. You do not deal with that via threats of murder. His response was entirely out of proportion, irresponsible, stupid, and unacceptable. It doesn't matter whether she was using the kid for a pawn, it doesn't matter if ''a female'' knows his weakness or anything else: in a non-violent dispute, it is unacceptable for you to react with murder threats.

There's got to be a sense of scale here. You can't ''both sides'' this.

Is it wrong to stop your kid from going to their father's wedding? Sure, if the father is safe to be around, that's wrong.

Is it on the same scale as threatening to murder the child's mother? God no, it's not even in the same ballpark. Acting like these two things are just balancing on a scale is absurd, and it diminishes the wrongness of what Cousins did. Murder threats are not acceptable.

And that's even assuming that Cousins is safe to be around. I don't have kids myself, but I wouldn't want my nephews and nieces around someone that I knew would make murder threats whenever they were inconvenienced. It would be irresponsible for a parent to put a child in range of someone like that. If this is something Cousins is prone to, then I'd say she was justified in stopping the kid from going: that is a big if though, because we don't know if Cousins has done something like this before. If I had to guess, I'd say he probably has, because she didn't seem surprised by it, and if it was a trap like some people are arguing then clearly this is predictable behaviour for him. But that's just a guess, and even if it's wrong and this is the first time, he's STILL more wrong than she is.

Cannot believe that people are really going to bat for a man threatening to put a bullet through a woman's skull over a custody dispute. Jesus Christ.

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so because i dont see it 100% your way the conversation is loopy as you put it....

violence is not the answer so cousins is wrong...... she using the kid as a pawn and not letting him go to his father wedding is also wrong.....they both are wrong in this situation....

in court documents i didnt see her say he is a bad father or danger to the kid .....boogie want the 7yo son to stay with him.....now im about to assume,,,i assume the custody thing is an issue with them now.....i think she dont want to give the kid up full time because of the support she gets.....i assume those two argue about it alot now....i assume her and boogie say foul stuff to each other over this.......i assume she had a idea to get an advantage in court because she know he is emotional and say foul stuff........i assume she recorded the convo because she knew he would go off and say something foul because she would not let the kid go to his wedding and she got exactly what she wanted to use........this is about 2 stupid adults who cant agree on whats best for their kid and not that he is a bad father or a danger to him.....

its sad that a man has to schedule weddings or other important dates in his life around his kid appointed child visitation schedule over 2 adults being civil to each other.....

this is both of the parents fault so stop making it out that just because me and another poster dont see it your way 100% that we are defending boogie......clearly we said boogie was wrong but we also see the other side is at fault also making it both of their fault.......and if me saying both of them are wrong in this situation is your interpretation of me defending boogie then so be it smdh...

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this is both of the parents fault so stop making it out that just because me and another poster dont see it your way 100% that we are defending boogie......clearly we said boogie was wrong but we also see the other side is at fault also making it both of their fault.......and if me saying both of them are wrong in this situation is your interpretation of me defending boogie then so be it smdh...

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This is the issue that I keep pointing out.

''This is both of the parents fault''

Stop there.

You're wrong for two reasons:

1) The issue here is Cousins losing control and threatening to murder someone. It is Cousins' fault that he said that. It is not ''both'' of their faults: she may be in the wrong in terms of the larger dispute, and that's fine, but she doesn't control what comes out of his mouth and what he said was unacceptable. Stop trying to split the blame here. He is a 29 year old man who is responsible for the words that come out of his mouth.

2) Unless she was physically threatening Cousins or the child, there is no way words equate to violence in this scenario. She was not physically threatening him, or the child. She was just speaking and, as the mother of the child, she gets the right to have input on what the child does: she has the right to that. There is no situation where arguing verbally should turn into threats of murder. Absolutely none. It doesn't MATTER what she said, because verbal disputes do not justify death threats.

Again, stop trying to split the blame: we aren't arguing over whether the dispute is both of their faults. That's probably true, or at least partly true. The argument is whether or not she is responsible for Cousins making death threats, and whether that's acceptable. She isn't. He is. It's not. It doesn't matter how many times you try and split the blame, it won't because because his response was straight up insane. He's a grown man, he needs to take responsibility for his own actions. If he can't do that, or can't control his anger, he doesn't need his kid right now, he needs a mental health professional.

You have to take the alleged Boogie threats seriously. Failing to do so is why so many domestic violence situations wind up with women being murdered.

— Dave DuFour (@DaveDuFourNBA) August 27, 2019

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Oi.

Y'all got me going. This is the type of stuff that sets Father's Rights back. As fathers we need to speak out against this and distance ourselves from that behavior. Don't condone this abusive stuff.

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That’s BS. What sets fathers rights back is acting like its absurd to note that preventing a child from attending his own parent’s wedding is wrong. That’s his step mother now and he wasn’t allowed to witness the union of his own family. I hope the adults can come to their senses because I feel sorry for that kid.

Everyone agrees that Cousins shouldn’t have said what he said. I haven’t seen a single person say that he wasn’t wrong for saying that. Strangely enough I am seeing some people, including yourself who claims to be a “father’s rights” activist, maintain a glaring silence regarding the mother’s contribution to creating the situation. What she did was outrageous enough that it was expected to provoke an emotional reaction from the father, which is exactly why she secretly recorded his reaction to having his son wrongfully withheld from him. That’s not “condoning” what Cousins said it’s simply being honest about the reality of the situation.

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I haven’t seen a single person say that he wasn’t wrong for saying that.

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Try looking.

Is it bad that I don’t have a problem with this?

— Nathan (@NMP_99) August 27, 2019

261 likes.

I see nothing wrong here, what I see that’s wrong is a system set up for women to use and manipulate men they can’t be with anymore and using their MUTUAL son as leverage.

If anything she should have the kid taken from her. Disgusting.

— UniquESports+ (@UniqueSportplus) August 27, 2019

''I see nothing wrong here'', 240 likes.

Imma side with boogie on this one

— Old Man Kuz �������� (@LetsGooLakers) August 27, 2019

''I'mma side with boogie'', 280+ likes.

This doesn't take long. The entire range of internet scumbags and misogynists has crawled out of the woodwork to praise DMC for threatening to murder someone. It's extremely easy to say you haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean much if you haven't even looked.

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What she did was outrageous enough that it was expected to provoke an emotional reaction from the father

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Nobody denies Cousins has a right to be upset. But if you think what she did was on a level where a murder threat is ''expected'' to be provoked, then you have an extremely warped sense of proportion.

I hope he has some really good financial advisers on his side.

Speak when you are angry and you will make the best speech you will ever regret......Ambrose Bierce

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That’s BS. What sets fathers rights back is acting like its absurd to note that preventing a child from attending his own parent’s wedding is wrong. That’s his step mother now and he wasn’t allowed to witness the union of his own family. I hope the adults can come to their senses because I feel sorry for that kid.

Everyone agrees that Cousins shouldn’t have said what he said. I haven’t seen a single person say that he wasn’t wrong for saying that. Strangely enough I am seeing some people, including yourself who claims to be a “father’s rights” activist, maintain a glaring silence regarding the mother’s contribution to creating the situation. What she did was outrageous enough that it was expected to provoke an emotional reaction from the father, which is exactly why she secretly recorded his reaction to having his son wrongfully withheld from him. That’s not “condoning” what Cousins said it’s simply being honest about the reality of the situation.

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If you have not seen anyone saying he wasn't wrong, you are not looking. Many on twitter are supporting/excusing his actions. Even you seem to want to excuse them because of the mother's actions.

You should never threaten anyone’s life ever whether it be man/woman or anything in between. I understand that women can do everything in their power to get you to react. They are put on this ridiculous pedestal these days and they can do no wrong. That never excuses violence or threats of violence. He needs to be the bigger man here and apologize, go to anger management and get some of his issues sorted.

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If you have not seen anyone saying he wasn't wrong, you are not looking. Many on twitter are supporting/excusing his actions. Even you seem to want to excuse them because of the mother's actions.

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I literally provided examples of people saying that he wasn't wrong, with a combined 800+ likes, and got radio silence as the response. Fairly telling.

How will this affect his career? Could he be suspended for this?


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How will this affect his career? Could he be suspended for this?

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Given that the NBA and its teams seem pretty happy to continue allowing Jason Kidd (plead guilty to domestic abuse, no suspension) to get jobs in the NBA, and continued to allow Ron Artest to keep playing after he plead no contest to domestic violence charges (7 game suspension only), and allowed Darren Collison to keep playing after pleading guilty to battering his wife (8 game suspension only), I don't think they're going to suspend Cousins for making threats.

Even if they did, would it matter? Why would any team sign Cousins now?

Ruptured Achilles, torn quad, torn ACL, making murder threats, etc etc. It's not like it's low-risk high-reward anymore. It's big-risk, probably-low-reward. Some desperate team like Phoenix or whatever might throw money at him when he comes back from this injury, but I could easily see this being a nail in the coffin for his career.

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If you have not seen anyone saying he wasn't wrong, you are not looking. Many on twitter are supporting/excusing his actions. Even you seem to want to excuse them because of the mother's actions.

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It is certainly true that I don't spend my time looking at random twitter feeds, when I said nobody was saying that he wasn't wrong I was referring to posts on this board. But you've just proved my point. I have said point blank several times that Cousins shouldn't have said what he said and you are still trying to characterize it as if I think he was right to say that. That's on you.