I have not given up yet!

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12-24-2018, 04:59 PM
P_B_&_G

I have not given up yet!

Why?

1) Payton should be back in about a week or so and Niko any day. I think people are forgetting just how important Niko is to this team. Remember, the Bulls traded him for nothing because they couldn't tank properly with him on the team.

2) I will reserve judgment until the end of the season because nothing will happen with AD until after this season.

3) So far, this season has sucked big time but so did last year at this time.

4) All I want for Christmas is a healthy team down the stretch.
12-24-2018, 08:18 PM
AstroFire

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

Why?

1) Payton should be back in about a week or so and Niko any day. I think people are forgetting just how important Niko is to this team. Remember, the Bulls traded him for nothing because they couldn't tank properly with him on the team.

2) I will reserve judgment until the end of the season because nothing will happen with AD until after this season.

3) So far, this season has sucked big time but so did last year at this time.

4) All I want for Christmas is a healthy team down the stretch.

That is some of the problem but not all the problem.
12-24-2018, 08:41 PM
P_B_&_G

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Originally Posted by AstroFire

That is some of the problem but not all the problem.

This team should be able to be at least as good as last year. The playoff team basically added Payton and Randle and lost Rondo. So, unless Rondo was actually coaching the team I see that as a net positive.

If Rondo was coaching the team we should just fire Gentry and trade for Rondo and let him be the first ever head coach/player.
12-24-2018, 09:54 PM
NMThreeMVP

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

This team should be able to be at least as good as last year. The playoff team basically added Payton and Randle and lost Rondo. So, unless Rondo was actually coaching the team I see that as a net positive.

If Rondo was coaching the team we should just fire Gentry and trade for Rondo and let him be the first ever head coach/player.

Google Bill Russell.
12-24-2018, 09:56 PM
UNO Gracias

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Google Bill Russell.

Heck, Google Lebron James.
12-25-2018, 12:11 AM
Pelicanidae

This is basically my stance. As much as I've hated the way we've played for the last month or so, I did say a while ago that I'm reserving panic for the 7th of January, because by then everyone should be back healthy and we can actually see what we have.
12-25-2018, 12:31 AM
kinglio21093

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Heck, Google Lebron James.

LeBron is the first ever GM/Coach/Player.
12-26-2018, 04:06 PM
P_B_&_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

Google Bill Russell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Heck, Google Lebron James.

I meant, officially titled as Head coach/player

Edited to add: I didn't realize there have been 40 other instances of players also acting as the teams head coach, but its been almost 40 years! Time to trade for Rondo and designate him as HC/PG
12-26-2018, 06:46 PM
Rel11

I haven’t given up but I’m beyond frustrated. Merry Christmas everyone. Happy holidays!
12-26-2018, 07:40 PM
da ThRONe

At some point all these injuries can't simply be a "luck" thing. It seems like every year it's waiting to get somebody back.
12-26-2018, 11:27 PM
UNO Gracias

Wasn’t Herb Williams a player/coach?
12-27-2018, 03:30 AM
new city champ

We waited too long. I think they thought they could ride it out until folks got healthy, but turns out they couldn’t afford to be patient. At 15-20 we have to, at a minimum, go 30-17 the rest of the way to get a shot at even being a low seed in the playoffs. Maybe more like 32-15. It’s a big ask. I think maybe the organization thought at some level that the team could just rip off big winning streaks and get well like it did last year. That’s a dangerous way to think..instead they needed to be more aggressive trading for a true back up PG and serviceable starting wing, even if it meant over paying. They played it conservative and now I think the Pels are screwed for this year and management has likely managed itself out of a job.
12-27-2018, 05:48 AM
RhythmNathan

Time for thread title change?
12-27-2018, 07:08 AM
DaFranchise80

Alvin Gentry has ran this team into the ground. I have never seen a coach that clueless when it comes to clutch situations and the limitations of his players. I blame Demps for even hiring this guy to replace Monty. It seemed like a lateral move at the time and it could possibly end up being worse when it’s all said and done. Ok, rant over.
12-27-2018, 08:19 AM
tyler

I believe honestly. Just because I seen what they can do fully healthy... the thing is we need to do better at weathering the storm until we are fully healthy. This is a dangerous team so I’m ride or die.
12-27-2018, 08:20 AM
tyler

I’ll go as far and say AD knows how good this team is when healthy, so I also thinks he stays!
12-27-2018, 08:53 AM
hagios

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Originally Posted by new city champ

We waited too long. I think they thought they could ride it out until folks got healthy, but turns out they couldn’t afford to be patient. At 15-20 we have to, at a minimum, go 30-17 the rest of the way to get a shot at even being a low seed in the playoffs. Maybe more like 32-15. It’s a big ask. I think maybe the organization thought at some level that the team could just rip off big winning streaks and get well like it did last year. That’s a dangerous way to think..instead they needed to be more aggressive trading for a true back up PG and serviceable starting wing, even if it meant over paying. They played it conservative and now I think the Pels are screwed for this year and management has likely managed itself out of a job.

We are 4 games out of the playoffs right now.

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12-27-2018, 08:53 AM
AstroFire

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Originally Posted by tyler

I’ll go as far and say AD knows how good this team is when healthy, so I also thinks he stays!

Team has no depth. You need depth to win.

Denver team has been decimated with injuries: Millsap, Barton, Harris, IT, Porter Jr. and Vanderbilt are all out. 6 out of the 15 players on guaranteed contracts are injured.
— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) December 10, 2018
12-27-2018, 09:44 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by AstroFire

Team has no depth. You need depth to win.

Denver team has been decimated with injuries: Millsap, Barton, Harris, IT, Porter Jr. and Vanderbilt are all out. 6 out of the 15 players on guaranteed contracts are injured.
— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) December 10, 2018

Have you posted that tweet about a dozen times? We all know that Denver has depth and we have none.
12-27-2018, 10:11 AM
thisisowen

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Originally Posted by tyler

I’ll go as far and say AD knows how good this team is when healthy, so I also thinks he stays!

What faith you have.
12-27-2018, 10:26 AM
pelicanchamp

Delusional. The PELS need to clean house.

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12-27-2018, 11:41 AM
AstroFire

Quote:

Originally Posted by AstroFire

Team has no depth. You need depth to win.

Denver team has been decimated with injuries: Millsap, Barton, Harris, IT, Porter Jr. and Vanderbilt are all out. 6 out of the 15 players on guaranteed contracts are injured.
— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) December 10, 2018

About as many times as someone posting blaming losses to our injuries.
12-27-2018, 07:16 PM
P_B_&_G

Lebron is reportedly about to miss a bunch of games. Let's see how good the Lakers are without him.
12-28-2018, 10:47 AM
AstroFire

The Pelicans lose their fifth consecutive game and fall to 4-15 on the road this season. They didn’t lose their 14th road game last season until Feb. 9.
— Jeff Duncan (@JeffDuncan_) December 27, 2018
12-28-2018, 01:38 PM
PELICANSFAN

So now you are posting Duncan? Really?
12-29-2018, 08:03 AM
soggymoss

Quote:

Originally Posted by AstroFire

Team has no depth. You need depth to win.

Denver team has been decimated with injuries: Millsap, Barton, Harris, IT, Porter Jr. and Vanderbilt are all out. 6 out of the 15 players on guaranteed contracts are injured.
— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) December 10, 2018

And 90 of their 130 games missed are by 3 guys that would never have seen the court anyway, so your point is?
12-29-2018, 08:48 AM
Pelicanidae

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Originally Posted by soggymoss

And 90 of their 130 games missed are by 3 guys that would never have seen the court anyway, so your point is?

99 of their games* missed due to injury. IT, Vanderbilt, and MPJ have missed 33 each, so that's 99.

Don't bother, if Astro cared about context he wouldn't keep posting it after having the context explained for him again and again and again.
12-29-2018, 02:50 PM
P_B_&_G

I just can't believe people are ready to throw in the towel and we're only 3.5 games out of 8th place.
12-29-2018, 05:36 PM
neitzelbaby12

I dont think we're screwed. Things certainly dont look good but we have a chance. The schedule is really tough at the end of January (LAC, GSW, POR, MEM, DET, OKC, SA, HOU from Jan 14-30). If they go 4-3 or 5-2 (HOU, MEM, BRK, MIN x2, CLE x2) in the next 7, and bring back EP and Mirotic in that time, we could go .500 in the rough stretch to end January. The schedule going into the AS break isn't too bad so that could be the time to go on a win streak. Injury luck will no doubt be a factor but if the Pelicans get luck for the first time ever (knock on wood) and make a trade, they could be right back in the playoff race. A lot of things have to break right but it's possible and I'll remain hopeful.

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