Salary cap expected to drop to $99M

Teams have been informed the NBA expects the salary cap to go down from latest projections, per league source. $99 million the new number.

— Jay King (@ByJayKing) June 22, 2017

edit: the below tweet is from April... the last cap projection I could find

Sources: The NBA has delivered teams a new salary cap projection for the 2017-18 season: $101M. The cap is $94.1M this season.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) April 7, 2017

It was supposed to be what, $108m?

NVM, it was expected to be $121.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndica...02307.amp.html

That's one heck of a drop. I guess that's one way to prevent stars from changing teams.

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That explains things.

Not so much a big trade in the works. But literally less money.

How is that even figured anyway?

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That explains things.

Not so much a big trade in the works. But literally less money.

How is that even figured anyway?

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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2017-offseason

This does make that 2 million from Frazier a bit more important https://t.co/6n7hnomNFE

— Jake Madison (@NOLAJake) June 22, 2017

After trading Frazier & the cap reduction to $99 million, the Pelicans now have $13.8M in cap space assuming no cap holds & no other moves.

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) June 22, 2017

AD: $23.8
Boogie: $18.1
Hill: $11.7
Asik: $10.6
Moore: $8.4
Ajinca: $5.0
QPon: $3.9
Diallo: $1.3
3 Mins: $2.4

Total: $85.2M
Cap: $99M

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) June 22, 2017

NBA teams just found out they're getting $3 million less in salary cap space. Cap expected to come at $99M, down from $102M projection

— Brian Windhorst (@WindhorstESPN) June 22, 2017

Wanna know why the cap went down? Here's a big part of it:https://t.co/TtJ2pKKPyA

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) June 22, 2017

edit: so LeBron & Steph better start throwing a game or 2 in those early round blowouts to make life better for everyone else in the Association

And this is where everyone starts to get pissy about super teams

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Wanna know why the cap went down? Here's a big part of it:https://t.co/TtJ2pKKPyA

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) June 22, 2017

edit: so LeBron & Steph better start throwing a game or 2 in those early round blowouts to make life better for everyone else in the Association

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its actually refreshing to know that the league actually has a financial incentive to try to level out the imbalance somewhat

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its actually refreshing to know that the league actually has a financial incentive to try to level out the imbalance somewhat

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or playoff refereeing could get worse :hihi:

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Originally Posted by rt0307

After trading Frazier & the cap reduction to $99 million, the Pelicans now have $13.8M in cap space assuming no cap holds & no other moves.

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) June 22, 2017

AD: $23.8
Boogie: $18.1
Hill: $11.7
Asik: $10.6
Moore: $8.4
Ajinca: $5.0
QPon: $3.9
Diallo: $1.3
3 Mins: $2.4

Total: $85.2M
Cap:
$99M

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) href="https://twitter.com/MasonGinsberg/status/877734547063885826">June 22, 2017

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At the time they signed, Asik I was hoping that it would not be too much. Now it looks like it is. Unless of course he becomes a great backup Center.

You know. If we just pretend Asik's contract isn't there I don't really feel bad about any of our contracts.

Hill is a slight overpay but when you look at other wings around the league, especially ones that signed last year, I'd rather have Hill than any other SF who signed for their deal last year (outside of KD of course).

Man if we could go into this off season with 75m instead of 85m on the books that'd have been nice.

We resigned Asik "because we had to".
We are going to throw the kitchen sink at Jrue "because we have to."

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You know. If we just pretend Asik's contract isn't there I don't really feel bad about any of our contracts.

Hill is a slight overpay but when you look at other wings around the league, especially ones that signed last year, I'd rather have Hill than any other SF who signed for their deal last year (outside of KD of course).

Man if we could go into this off season with 75m instead of 85m on the books that'd have been nice.

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Anyone know if he is stretched this season how much extra they save?

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We resigned Asik "because we had to".
We are going to throw the kitchen sink at Jrue "because we have to."

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^^^

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Anyone know if he is stretched this season how much extra they save?

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I know this doesn't directly answer your question but...

Realistic max room for the Pels is likely in the neighborhood of $27M. Assumes no cap holds (so no Jrue), no Ajinca/QPon, & Asik stretched.

— Mason Ginsberg (@MasonGinsberg) June 22, 2017

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We resigned Asik "because we had to".
We are going to throw the kitchen sink at Jrue "because we have to."

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We resigned him because he was coming off arguably his best (or one of his best) season ever statistically and AD had already made it clear he refuses to play center.

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Anyone know if he is stretched this season how much extra they save?

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it makes no sense. it is couple hundreds of grants of difference


we have almost eaten one year of his salary. celebrate it.

why does it feel like the cap is harder on us than most teams?

We need to figure out a way to get rid of Asik. Philly has plenty if room.

Well that really sucks.

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why does it feel like the cap is harder on us than most teams?

We need to figure out a way to get rid of Asik. Philly has plenty if room.

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Because our GM is subpar.

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We resigned him because he was coming off arguably his best (or one of his best) season ever statistically and AD had already made it clear he refuses to play center.

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The problem was we were not competing against anyone. No one was pursuing Asik. We could have signed him for much less. Dumb Demps.

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The problem was we were not competing against anyone. No one was pursuing Asik. We could have signed him for much less. Dumb Demps.

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You have no proof of that. We don't know if other teams offered Asik, what those offers were, nothing of his free agency. All we know is Dell and Asik agreed to terms.

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You have no proof of that. We don't know if other teams offered Asik, what those offers were, nothing of his free agency. All we know is Dell and Asik agreed to terms.

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Honestly bro as soon as he became invisible in the playoffs, the moment that contract was signed everyone felt like that was an extreme overpay.

This is completely self-congratulating myself but last year when the crazy contracts started flying around I was advocating for us to dump long-term salary rather than making those signings. The reason being you end up with maximum flexibility. You could end up being one of the only teams that could start offering max money while other teams would be riddled with large contracts, get picks for bad contracts, or get bench players as a third-party. It would again delay our win-now mentality but man, that's how you play the game and avoid the game playing you (unless you're just trying to save your job from your owner who can't see past 2 years in the future). I didn't know the cap could go down but that would have been another argument for it as it would have made us look even better as fewer teams can offer as much money.

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This is completely self-congratulating myself but last year when the crazy contracts started flying around I was advocating for us to dump long-term salary rather than making those signings. The reason being you end up with maximum flexibility. You could end up being one of the only teams that could start offering max money while other teams would be riddled with large contracts, get picks for bad contracts, or get bench players as a third-party. It would again delay our win-now mentality but man, that's how you play the game and avoid the game playing you (unless you're just trying to save your job from your owner who can't see past 2 years in the future). I didn't know the cap could go down but that would have been another argument for it as it would have made us look even better as fewer teams can offer as much money.

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Same. People seem to hold it against me but I always preach smart spending and flexibility.

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Same. People seem to hold it against me but I always preach smart spending and flexibility.

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Look at all the teams trying to dump players right now. The Nets are building for the future so they are taking up one of those routes. The route of "we're an okay team who hasn't gone overboard on contracts and are just a piece or two away from making a decent playoff run" could make up a lot of ground in this climate. I'm sure we'll see someone emerge as that team as I haven't done much looking into teams' salaries lately but I'll bet someone emerges as that team and they'll do well because of it.

It also makes me solidify further the "GMs are dumb" theory. I argued for years that GMs aren't as dumb as everyone thinks until last year. I understand that the jump in salary cap changes contracts, but so many of those contracts were obviously bad from the start, and many signings didn't show any coherent vision form the teams. I genuinely believe that there are probably a good 10 posters on this board that would run an NBA team better than probably half the current owners/GMs in the league.

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Look at all the teams trying to dump players right now. The Nets are building for the future so they are taking up one of those routes. The route of "we're an okay team who hasn't gone overboard on contracts and are just a piece or two away from making a decent playoff run" could make up a lot of ground in this climate. I'm sure we'll see someone emerge as that team as I haven't done much looking into teams' salaries lately but I'll bet someone emerges as that team and they'll do well because of it.

It also makes me solidify further the "GMs are dumb" theory. I argued for years that GMs aren't as dumb as everyone thinks until last year. I understand that the jump in salary cap changes contracts, but so many of those contracts were obviously bad from the start, and many signings didn't show any coherent vision form the teams. I genuinely believe that there are probably a good 10 posters on this board that would run an NBA team better than probably half the current owners/GMs in the league.

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That overspending cost Mitch Kupchak and Griffin there jobs. There's some logic and leeway for overspending for fit, but ultimately no team/GM should massively overspend for Harrison Barnes', Tim Mozgov's, or Tristan Thompson's of the world. And I'll say at least in Harrison Barnes case he was brought there to be a franchise player.

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Honestly bro as soon as he became invisible in the playoffs, the moment that contract was signed everyone felt like that was an extreme overpay.

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That's not the argument, though at the time it was debatable what his value was. The person I was replying to stated a ton of things as fact which none of us have any clue about.

I didn't see this posted earlier, but how jerky of the Warriors and Cavs. They are the ones who helped kill the salary cap spike, and they are also the ones who look to gain most from it.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news...e1d4y49ge9o79w