How could we sign Khris Middleton?

Realistically is he a possible get? He'll cost more than the MLE i'm assuming, or maybe not?

Is there anything in the realm of being realistic we could do to sign him? Not resign Asik, or anything of that nature?

Also who do you think will command more money this offseason in order: Middleton, DeMarre Carroll, Crowder?

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...-antetokounmpo

(...)One league executive told Sporting News that Middleton will draw an offer around — brace yourself — $15 million per year. “That’s what Chandler Parsons got, but this guy plays much better defense,” the executive said. Parsons was granted a three-year, $46 million deal by the Mavericks last season to ensure the Rockets didn't match. Now the Bucks have that dilemma, for a player who averaged 13.4 points a game this season but was their leading playoff scorer. All signs suggest they will match any deal he gets, and they have the space under the luxury tax line to do so. But they will need to consider a future in which they have to pay Carter-Williams, Antetokounmpo and Parker.(...)

still like the idea?

do you like the idea of Mirza Teletovic for a fair price. assuming that his health issues are over?

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http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/stor...-antetokounmpo

(...)One league executive told Sporting News that Middleton will draw an offer around — brace yourself — $15 million per year. “That’s what Chandler Parsons got, but this guy plays much better defense,” the executive said. Parsons was granted a three-year, $46 million deal by the Mavericks last season to ensure the Rockets didn't match. Now the Bucks have that dilemma, for a player who averaged 13.4 points a game this season but was their leading playoff scorer. All signs suggest they will match any deal he gets, and they have the space under the luxury tax line to do so. But they will need to consider a future in which they have to pay Carter-Williams, Antetokounmpo and Parker.(...)

still like the idea?

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This article also mentions (board favorite) Jared Dudley having a $4.2 mil player option that he is going to renew.

With the new agreements and cap, how does contracts work for future years, can you back load like Houston did with Lin and front load?

Only if we move Gordon.. He is gonna get paid and also is a RFA who fits good with Milwaukees core so they shouldnt let him go.

If we could clear cap space Demarre would be a great signing imo

What Houston did with Lin and Asik is not commonly available, it can only be done to 2nd round picks or UDFAs with 2 years or less experience in the league. There really isn't much contract chicanery that can be done to make RFA matching unpalatable. If the home team is ok matching money, all you can do is what Dallas did with Chandler Parsons and make it short (3 years) with player options. For the most part you need to have the cap space available to pay more than the original team is willing to pay, and we don't.

Kris gonna get paid what Gordon is on

I like Middleton a lot. But seeing him as a $15M per year player is just asinine.

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Originally Posted by kinglio21093

I like Middleton a lot. But seeing him as a $15M per year player is just asinine.

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I think it will take a while for people to get to a point where they realize how different 10 million or 15 million is going to be in this new era.

In 2017-18, 15 million will be the same as 8.8 million is now. And Middleton was worth way more than 8.8 million this year. He was probably a 11-12 million dollar player.

So, 15 mil per year seems like a bargain to me, even if he just keeps this level of play. If he continues to improve, it's a steal.

No we can't get Middleton. I don't care, I've decided we should go after Damien Ingles


Here's why:

6'9" 249 lb Damien Ingles

He should be available. with Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jarred Dudley, Jabari Parker, and Kris Middleton (even -Ersan Ilyasova plays Sf for stretches)
they'll have a log-jam at the SF position; hence making one expendable.

He missed his first season in the league with a broken ankle

He has the footwork/lateral quickness, thick frame and a 7'3" wing-span/ overall ability to lock-down players on the perimeter. and become a premier defensive player

Is/Will be a great defensive player.

99% of african Americans from France can straight-up play ball if yal ever noticed the success of these guys??

Hate to say this name, but after that series with the Warriors- Draymond Green became my public enemy #!.

Ingles, at this junctue can be BEST described by being a poor man's Draymond Greenn. a gritty defender who could become our missing piece.,
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He has an astonishing combination of size, physical skills, length and speed ... He’s already well developed from the muscular standpoint, especially in the upper body, with long arms and strong hands ... His solid body structure allows him to effectively withstand contact, and to attack the basket without struggles even at senior level, plus he has shown the ability to exploit his size by posting up smaller and weaker opponents ... He has remarkable passing skills and ball handling abilities … He tends to switch to the PG position on offense, exploiting his ability to beat his direct defender to create for himself and his teammates ... He loves to attack the basket in ISO situations, exploiting his physical skills and his speed, with a slashing style of game ... He plays with energy and intensity giving an effective contribution in various aspects of the game, he’s also a good rebounder for his position ... On the defensive side he puts great pressure exploiting his body and quick hands.

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“He’s got an overall good skill set – good ballhandler, good passer,” Hammond said on draft night. “And he’s going to continue to work on his shooting. His shot isn’t bad now, but he’s going to continue to work on that. Another good young piece and hopefully another guy who can play multiple positions.”

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Inglis ranked as the second best rebounding small forward in the entire French league despite his youth, hauling down 9.5 boards per-40, something he’s done in every setting he’s played, which makes it likely to translate to the NBA level as well in some capacity.

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

No we can't get Middleton. I don't care, I've decided we should go after Damien Ingles


Here's why:

6'9" 249 lb Damien Ingles

He should be available. with Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jarred Dudley, Jabari Parker, and Kris Middleton (even -Ersan Ilyasova plays Sf for stretches)
they'll have a log-jam at the SF position; hence making one expendable.

He missed his first season in the league with a broken ankle

He has the footwork/lateral quickness, thick frame and a 7'3" wing-span/ overall ability to lock-down players on the perimeter. and become a premier defensive player

Is/Will be a great defensive player.

99% of african Americans from France can straight-up play ball if yal ever noticed the success of these guys??

Hate to say this name, but after that series with the Warriors- Draymond Green became my public enemy #!.

Ingles, at this junctue can be BEST described by being a poor man's Draymond Greenn. a gritty defender who could become our missing piece.,
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“He’s got an overall good skill set – good ballhandler, good passer,” Hammond said on draft night. “And he’s going to continue to work on his shooting. His shot isn’t bad now, but he’s going to continue to work on that. Another good young piece and hopefully another guy who can play multiple positions.”

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Realistically is he a possible get? He'll cost more than the MLE i'm assuming, or maybe not?

Is there anything in the realm of being realistic we could do to sign him? Not resign Asik, or anything of that nature?

Also who do you think will command more money this offseason in order: Middleton, DeMarre Carroll, Crowder?

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He's possible to get.
1. Turn on your PS4 or XBone.
2. Load up NBA2k14.
3. ???
4. Sign Chris Middleton

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

No we can't get Middleton. I don't care, I've decided we should go after Damien Ingles


Here's why:

6'9" 249 lb Damien Ingles

He should be available. with Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jarred Dudley, Jabari Parker, and Kris Middleton (even -Ersan Ilyasova plays Sf for stretches)
they'll have a log-jam at the SF position; hence making one expendable.

He missed his first season in the league with a broken ankle

He has the footwork/lateral quickness, thick frame and a 7'3" wing-span/ overall ability to lock-down players on the perimeter. and become a premier defensive player

Is/Will be a great defensive player.

99% of african Americans from France can straight-up play ball if yal ever noticed the success of these guys??

Hate to say this name, but after that series with the Warriors- Draymond Green became my public enemy #!.

Ingles, at this junctue can be BEST described by being a poor man's Draymond Greenn. a gritty defender who could become our missing piece.,
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“He’s got an overall good skill set – good ballhandler, good passer,” Hammond said on draft night. “And he’s going to continue to work on his shooting. His shot isn’t bad now, but he’s going to continue to work on that. Another good young piece and hopefully another guy who can play multiple positions.”

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Wow.

And you know who drafted Khris Middleton right?

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Wow.

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Oh my God how did i miss that ?!?!?! :hihi: African Americans from France pahahahahhaha

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

No we can't get Middleton. I don't care, I've decided we should go after Damien Ingles


Here's why:

6'9" 249 lb Damien Ingles

He should be available. with Giannis Antetokounmpo, Jarred Dudley, Jabari Parker, and Kris Middleton (even -Ersan Ilyasova plays Sf for stretches)
they'll have a log-jam at the SF position; hence making one expendable.

He missed his first season in the league with a broken ankle

He has the footwork/lateral quickness, thick frame and a 7'3" wing-span/ overall ability to lock-down players on the perimeter. and become a premier defensive player

Is/Will be a great defensive player.

99% of african Americans from France can straight-up play ball if yal ever noticed the success of these guys??

Hate to say this name, but after that series with the Warriors- Draymond Green became my public enemy #!.

Ingles, at this junctue can be BEST described by being a poor man's Draymond Greenn. a gritty defender who could become our missing piece.,
Attachment 5968

NBADRAF.NET

http://www.bucksketball.com/wp-conte...mb_400x600.jpg

“He’s got an overall good skill set – good ballhandler, good passer,” Hammond said on draft night. “And he’s going to continue to work on his shooting. His shot isn’t bad now, but he’s going to continue to work on that. Another good young piece and hopefully another guy who can play multiple positions.”

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so when u say african americans are u referring to people born in africa and live in the USA now, or are u referring to black people?

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Oh my God how did i miss that ?!?!?! :hihi: African Americans from France pahahahahhaha

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:hihi: I missed it at first too! That's good stuff

lmao i don't think this dude understands that everyone who is african american isn't black, u know they have white african americans right? Like Charlize Theron?

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:hihi: I missed it at first too! That's good stuff

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that would be the infamous french african american maybe?

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving!

Guys. He might be an African American who went to France and came back after a long time. Let's give him the benefit of the doub--- LOL sorry I couldn't keep it going. hahahahahahaha

does that make u an african french american or a french african american?

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does that make u an african french american or a french african american?

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It makes me confused

I'm good I'm just not "African American from France " good

If an African American from France gets injured, would the Pelicans still make the playoffs?

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I'm good I'm just not "African American from France " good

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Your sig says you're on grinder, what is grinder?

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Your sig says you're on grinder, what is grinder?

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I tried googling it, but it just brought me to this >>>> www.AfricanAmericanPeopleFromFranceMeet.com

hahahahaha omg.

lmao- just say no

(and get me some Ingles)

boris diow
nicholas batum
tony parker
Joakim Noah
rudy gobert
alex ajincia

and ...ingles

I would love to get Middleton. I think he is the next Klay Thompson and would be an absolute perfect fit on this team being able to play the 2 and 3. If we didn't have Gordon I would throw the max at him while it seems like a lot now it will only be for a short time once the new NBA salary comes into place. Only problem is the Bucks will most likely pay whatever it takes to get him also.

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

lmao- just say no

(and get me some Ingles)

boris diow
nicholas batum
tony parker
Joakim Noah
rudy gobert
alex ajincia

and ...ingles

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Funny because these players have a lot of different roots. Boris Diaw's father was from Senegal (mother from France, also one of the best basketball center in France's history), Batum's was from Cameroun, Parker's was from USA (so the African American from France), Noah grandfather was Camerounese, Rudy Gobert and Alexis Ajinca have ancestry from Guadeloupe (in the French West Indies) and Damien Inglis is from French Guyana (large French territory north of Brazil).
So if you draw any conclusion from the ascendants, Kevin Seraphin is your best bet for Inglis.

Now, if you look at the list, they have all have on thing in common (except for Noah who grew up in USA) : they played for the French's National Institute of Sport and Physical Education (INSEP). I think this fact predicts more their abilities and skillset than their ancestries.

Regarding Damien Inglis, as most in this board, I was pretty high on him in the last draft, so if the bucks make him available I would love to see him sport a pelicans jersey and I think he might be interested since he sould hear some good about Monty and his ability to groom young players from Batum.

Another French player that might be available this summer is Evan Fournier. The Magic has already plenty of wings (Oladipo, Harris, Gordon, Harkless, Fournier) and if they don't win the lottery they should be in position to draft another (Hezonja and Winslow are projected near their pick). So Orlando could make him available for the right price but given his upside and the fact he plays a position of need, If I was Dell I would try to get him.

ok let me break this down, if u are african american, u were born in africa and now live in america, it has nothing to do with skin color at all.

If Lebron was born in china, and moved to america, he would be asian american, not african american.

Lol wtf is going on in this thread

Ignoring whatever stupid thing is going on here, I actually was very big on drafting Ingles in the 2nd round this past year.

If they'd be willing to move him for like, Babbitt, I'd do it.

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ok let me break this down, if u are african american, u were born in africa and now live in america, it has nothing to do with skin color at all.

If Lebron was born in china, and moved to america, he would be asian american, not african american.

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lol truedat. I was hanging out with this dude the other day from Morocco. He's sick of people telling him he isn't an African American,

and let's get this straight, if you were black and born in Louisiana or Alabama and lived here your entire life.... then you are not an African American. Simply... an American

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He's possible to get.
1. Turn on your PS4 or XBone.
2. Load up NBA2k14.
3. ???
4. Sign Chris Middleton

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How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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No. I'm not ready to pull the plug on Reke. I would move Gordon for Middleton or Wilson Chandler.....

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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Without a doubt, if your projection of Middleton is right, he's potentially that 2nd or 3rd man with Ad and Jrue (depending on who you put as 2), and his defense is steller which is what really makes it a great deal.

I'm really liking Tony Allen, if we can get that kind of player I'd be really happy as well (don't know if you need huge assets to get a defensive minded player

Does Khris really give us 10m more than what QPon does? I dunno. It's hard to judge now. In December I'd probably say yes, but with how QPon played I don't know if Khris is needed as much as someone else.

I might even argue that right now Tyreke has more value to us than Khris does since he has been playing so much PG.

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How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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In a New York second! Middleton is the real deal and would be a perfect fit here with his defense and spacing he provides. Reminds me a lot of Klay Thonpson and is a guy to me that takes that next step. He would provide us lots of versatility playing the 2-3 along with Pondexter doing the same. Holiday, Pondexter, and Middleton would be one hell of a defensive force along with being able to knock the 3 down.

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How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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In a New York second! Middleton is the real deal and would be a perfect fit here with his defense and spacing he provides. Reminds me a lot of Klay Thonpson and is a guy to me that takes that next step. He would provide us lots of versatility playing the 2-3 along with Pondexter doing the same. Holiday, Pondexter, and Middleton would be one hell of a defensive force along with being able to knock the 3 down.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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Is Middleton an upgrade in D? If so, I could see it,

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

ok let me break this down, if u are african american, u were born in africa and now live in america, it has nothing to do with skin color at all.

If Lebron was born in china, and moved to america, he would be asian american, not african american.

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This is not true.

African Americans are an ethnic group of citizens or residents of the United States with total or partial ancestry from any of the native populations of Sub-Saharan Africa. The term may also be used to include only those individuals who are descended from African slaves.

Please stop making the obvious racism worse by trying to explain it. Just keep making up basketball stuff, please.

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How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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Sign me up.

what about a sign and trade for tobias harris?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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Uh. Yeah. Everybody would do this. Except the Bucks.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

How would people feel about a sign and trade that essentially had Middleton come in at about 13 mil per season and sent Tyreke out? I doubt the Bucks would want Tyreke with MCW there, but maybe they would as a second unit scorer. Or maybe he goes to team C, who sends the Bucks a SG or C.

Either way, would you do that?

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MM you should know how i feel about tyreke, i would commit to this in a heartbeat, im hoping our new coach doesn't like tyreke and gets him out of here, his not a winning formula while Gordon can be very useful with his spacing, sorta like your wesely matthew and i feel he can fill that roll very well next season.