Patric Young

Looks like he got some guaranteed money and Dell really wanted to draft him. Greatly increases the odds he makes final roster IMO. Great read.

http://www.onlygators.com/07/07/2014...eans-pelicans/

I really hope he can turn into a bruising/hustling type of rebounder/energy guy. Really liked his energy at Florida.

Championship!

Seriously though, I hope he makes it

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Originally Posted by saintsinNO

I really hope he can turn into a bruising/hustling type of rebounder/energy guy. Really liked his energy at Florida.

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Gonna be so tough for him to score on anything but put backs and transition until he develops a little 15 footer, but he can play defense from Day 1. The issue is that he can't rebound on that end. Gotta play him with AD. Could play with Asik, but that would kill spacing.

In this context guaranteed money would probably be $50k or whatever they pay you to make it all the way through camp. Like when last year we had the option to cut Roberts for $50k but we chose to keep him.

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Originally Posted by BP225

In this context guaranteed money would probably be $50k or whatever they pay you to make it all the way through camp. Like when last year we had the option to cut Roberts for $50k but we chose to keep him.

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Very true. But thats still more than 99% of the undrafted guys on summer league rosters. Shows they had significant interest and really want him to make the team.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Looks like he got some guaranteed money and Dell really wanted to draft him. Greatly increases the odds he makes final roster IMO. Great read.

http://www.onlygators.com/07/07/2014...eans-pelicans/

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saw his twitter avi had the pelicans logo in the background... seemed a little premature before i read this. make some sense now

I think, one way or the other, Ajinca or Withey is gone to make the Asik trade work. Young can step right into the 3rd string role. Different kind of player, but can have similar long term impact.

Question MM:

Does Patric have the quickness to guard the 3 or do you think he'll play the 4 when on court with Brow?

Withey is like young, only he can't defend but he can block shots, while young can defend but can't block shots like withey does. On offense...eh. Rebounding sucks on defense for both. They are somewhat similar

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Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr

Question MM:

Does Patric have the quickness to guard the 3 or do you think he'll play the 4 when on court with Brow?

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Young would defend the 5. He can defend some low post 4's like Z-Bo too. But if he and AD are on the court, he is defending the 5. And no, I don't think you put him on 3's. And even if he could, who do you have at the 4 and 5 that doesn't absolutely kill your spacing when combined with Young? Only answer would be Ryno and AD, but with those 3 out there (which I don't think they ever would be), AD would guard the 3's.

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Originally Posted by Kurgan

Withey is like young, only he can't defend but he can block shots, while young can defend but can't block shots like withey does. On offense...eh. Rebounding sucks on defense for both. They are somewhat similar

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Withey might be one of the worst P&R defending big men in the league because of his feet. Young will be great at that from Day 1.

Withey has more touch on offense - can actually knock down a jumper and face up.

I was just watching his DX video and wow. He has a ton of skill especially on the defensive end. Despite some of his red flags offensively and his D rebounding, what a great get. Dell's a smart man lol

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Originally Posted by wuggie

I was just watching his DX video and wow. He has a ton of skill especially on the defensive end. Despite some of his red flags offensively and his D rebounding, what a great get. Dell's a smart man lol

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And the intangibles might be his best asset. Fantastic guy who busts his butt. Tough as nails and a winner.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Very true. But thats still more than 99% of the undrafted guys on summer league rosters. Shows they had significant interest and really want him to make the team.

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For sure, and it's more than you'd make in a season in DLeague IIRC.

Ok so a possible 5 man rotaton of bigs could look like

PF: Davis, Anderson, Young
C: Asik, Withey, Young

I'd assume we'd keep Withey over Ajinca in this scenario.

That looks like it would work to me.

The piece was well written and articulate. I love that he was open and honest about the draft night experience and it makes you root for guys like this. I hope he tears it up and makes the team! Let's go!!!

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Originally Posted by JunkHead

Ok so a possible 5 man rotaton of bigs could look like

PF: Davis, Anderson, Young
C: Asik, Withey, Young

I'd assume we'd keep Withey over Ajinca in this scenario.

That looks like it would work to me.

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Wouldn't mind keeping Babbitt too for Ryno insurance

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Very true. But thats still more than 99% of the undrafted guys on summer league rosters. Shows they had significant interest and really want him to make the team.

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It also speaks to how they see Russ Smith. They had the opportunity to draft him Young with the Philly pick and went with Smith.

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It also speaks to how they see Russ Smith. They had the opportunity to draft him Young with the Philly pick and went with Smith.

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Good point. Probably looked at the teams drafting after them and took an educated guess as to which guy was more likely to go undrafted. Worked out great for them.

If you would have told me going into that night that they would add Smith and Young and lose the rights to Pierre, I would have been a very happy man.

Our PG on-the-ball defense is gonna be sick with Jrue, Austin and Russ. Then throw in the rim-protectors we now have. All of our bigs block shots.

Bizarre we got him. Thought he was exactly the kinda player we needed pre-draft. No clue how he went undrafted.

Two four year guys coming from solid programs, that should be able to contribute this season. Best case scenario we can get both of them to contribute the way Draymond Green has done for the Warriors...

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Good point. Probably looked at the teams drafting after them and took an educated guess as to which guy was more likely to go undrafted. Worked out great for them.

If you would have told me going into that night that they would add Smith and Young and lose the rights to Pierre, I would have been a very happy man.

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To get both of them, while starting the night without a draft pick, is awesome.

Dude should be able to instantly come onto an roster and defend bigs almost as good as the next guy. Given his strength/power and athleticism, something would have to be severely wrong for this guy to not make the roster.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Young would defend the 5. He can defend some low post 4's like Z-Bo too. But if he and AD are on the court, he is defending the 5. And no, I don't think you put him on 3's. And even if he could, who do you have at the 4 and 5 that doesn't absolutely kill your spacing when combined with Young? Only answer would be Ryno and AD, but with those 3 out there (which I don't think they ever would be), AD would guard the 3's.

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after watching a lot of florida games, i can promise you he has the lateral agility to guard nba 3's...for stretches. he is a 4, but his greatest attributes are athleticism and versatility on defense

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Bizarre we got him. Thought he was exactly the kinda player we needed pre-draft. No clue how he went undrafted.

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totally agree

I challenge someone to watch this video in it's entirety and not be excited about Patric Young.

Also keep in mind this was pre last season

My only worry is we wont have space to sign him

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Originally Posted by i am cow lolz

My only worry is we wont have space to sign him

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He would only get the minimum, it's not an issue.

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Originally Posted by i am cow lolz

My only worry is we wont have space to sign him

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

He would only get the minimum, it's not an issue.

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Yeah would be like what 490k? Something like that. Definite non issue unless he means # of roster spots. Even so I'd make room for this guy.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Yeah would be like what 490k? Something like that. Definite non issue unless he means # of roster spots. Even so I'd make room for this guy.

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Possibly. But at that point I want the best player winning out. If he is better than our other backup bigs he will has a spot.

I honestly don't see a big issue for him. As long as he shows good defense and rebounds as well as our other bigs (which shouldn't be too hard since our backups aren't amazing in that regard) he will have a spot. He's just so different from our other backups it would take him completely stinking to not get a spot.

And if that's the case I wouldn't want him anyway.

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Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer
Patric Young on how Pelicans envision him as an NBA player: "They see me as a little Ben Wallace, and I’m perfectly happy playing that role"

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Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer
Patric Young on how Pelicans envision him as an NBA player: "They see me as a little Ben Wallace, and I’m perfectly happy playing that role"

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Patric young reads my posts on pelicansreport :coolg:

But Ben Wallace and he are nothing alike!

Ben Wallace gobbled up rebounds amazingly well and Patric Young is not that good at it.

Obviously, the Pels don't know what they're talking about...

Patric Young on his mindset: "I’ve got to be the most aggressive, angry guy out there, starting with summer league, every single game."

— Jim Eichenhofer (@Jim_Eichenhofer) July 8, 2014

The more quotes and video of this guy I watch/read, the more I like.

Ben Wallace as far as energy, hustle, and never drawing up a play for him. I see that. But production wise, they will be different. Young is not a shot blocker or a capable defensive rebounder.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Ben Wallace as far as energy, hustle, and never drawing up a play for him. I see that. But production wise, they will be different. Young is not a shot blocker or a capable defensive rebounder.

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Sounds more like Chuck Hayes than Ben Wallace but that's nothing to sneeze at either.
I'm still nervous that we now have a roster of Ball dominant guards, centers, and Ryan Anderson.
Dell must not like red bull because he doesn't have any wings.

I like Charles Oakley and Antonio Davis more myself. More attainable guys for his ceiling

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Originally Posted by Jabberwalker

Sounds more like Chuck Hayes than Ben Wallace but that's nothing to sneeze at either.
I'm still nervous that we now have a roster of Ball dominant guards, centers, and Ryan Anderson.
Dell must not like red bull because he doesn't have any wings.

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That's what we'll use the MLE and BAE on as long as we still have them after the Asik deal.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I like Charles Oakley and Antonio Davis more myself. More attainable guys for his ceiling

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with having either one of those two in a Pat Young.

I've been saying Oakley or one of the Davis Brothers for a while now. A little Reggie Evans as well.

I hope the comparison is Oakley and he develops the nasty/attitude as well. We haven't ever had that since this team relocated. Tyson wasn't as vocal then as he is now.

MUST, MUST, MUST read on Russ Smith here

http://www.courier-journal.com/story...ican/12363801/

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I like Charles Oakley and Antonio Davis more myself. More attainable guys for his ceiling

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Oakley was MJ's best friend. Maybe Patric can be Davis' best friend?

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Originally Posted by Kibner

Oakley was MJ's best friend. Maybe Patric can be Davis' best friend?

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And personal trainer. If AD is a future 100 million dollar man, isn't it worth a 4 yr/3 million dollar deal to get him a bodyguard and personal trainer?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

And personal trainer. If AD is a future 100 million dollar man, isn't it worth a 4 yr/3 million dollar deal to get him a bodyguard and personal trainer?

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Bodyguard. Heh. I like that.

I said we needed a big guy, but the word I shoulda used was tough guy.

The guy that'll mix it up, not back down. And Young is built like marble statue carved on Krypton.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Bodyguard. Heh. I like that.

I said we needed a big guy, but the word I shoulda used was tough guy.

The guy that'll mix it up, not back down. And Young is built like marble statue carved on Krypton.

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2 reps away from all time NBA Combine record on the bench press.

Can toughen AD up in practice too. I mean, I can see a scenario where he never steps on the court during an NBA game, but can still be truly valuable for us. Any production on the court is gravy.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I like Charles Oakley and Antonio Davis more myself. More attainable guys for his ceiling

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Davis is exactly who comes to mind for me

What's the record and how much weight?

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And personal trainer. If AD is a future 100 million dollar man, isn't it worth a 4 yr/3 million dollar deal to get him a bodyguard and personal trainer?

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I think AD should start talking to guys like Grover once he gets into his next contract.

I'm a huge Florida fan and loved watching him the past 4 years. He's a maximum effort on every play type of guy. He gets pumped about everything and is always in the game. He's a big crowd pumper and is definitely what Popovich calls "over himself".