Can we trade Vasquez...

back to Memphis for Pondexter????

LMAO. No takesies backsies.

:hihi:

:snacks::drink:

This ought to be good :hihi:

Q-Pon is ballin' ain't he?

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Q-Pon is ballin' ain't he?

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He's become a very respectable role player for the Grizzlies.

One of those 3 and D players that have become so valued in today's game.

I wish...

I am happy with GV. I like what Q-Pon is doing, but I like what GV is giving us more.

im hoping we trade gordon for a SF and draft mclemore or oladipo and have rivers at the point maybe something like

rivers
oladipo/mclemore
chandler/gallinari
ryno
davis

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I am happy with GV. I like what Q-Pon is doing, but I like what GV is giving us more.

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GV is only giving garbage numbers and no defense on a lottery team. That's not giving anything.

All the more reason to be patient with Darius Miller and not just throw him in as a trade sweetener.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

All the more reason to be patient with Darius Miller and not just throw him in as a trade sweetener.

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Too bad he didn't get as many minutes as possible in a wasted season yet Brian Roberts got plenty of PT. And Lou Admundson late in the year.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

He's become a very respectable role player for the Grizzlies.

One of those 3 and D players that have become so valued in today's game.

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We could use one at SF unless Darius Miller steps up.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

GV is only giving garbage numbers and no defense on a lottery team. That's not giving anything.

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You are right, he could be giving a great performance as a backup on a real team.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

You are right, he could be giving a great performance as a backup on a real team.

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He's not that great of a backup either. That's a myth perpuated on this forum.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Q-Pon is ballin' ain't he?

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Most definitely...

GV was not that bad.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

This board is so ****ing bipolar. Is it the eye test or advanced stats that we are looking at today? You look at advanced stats and GV has better stats than Nash did at the same point in their careers. You look at the eye test and GV gets crappy players involved.

Please proceed though.

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GV is a LIABILITY on defense. AKA ---- he hurts the team. Period. Players that hurt their teams are not good players, and should definitely not be starters.

This is not 11-man football, it is much harder to hide deficiencies in the NBA, especially the playoffs. The playoffs are all about match ups. It would not matter what we tried to do, teams would find a way to exploit GV. I can't see us winning a single playoff series if he is our starting 1.
Ever.

Don't get me wrong, I love his passion and he does have some offensive game. But until we upgrade the 1, we will be a lottery team or a first round exit at best.

Go look up their stats and then get back at me. Better yet, this board believes in Gordon like I believed in Harvey Dent, go compare GV's first year as a full time starter to this of Gordon's. Advanced stats don't lie, GV holds his own with both those guys (crazy I know).

But hate on!

It seems Memphis had high praise for G.V. I think some of you just want Q-Pon back. Understandable.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

Go look up their stats and then get back at me. Better yet, this board believes in Gordon like I believed in Harvey Dent, go compare GV's first year as a full time starter to this of Gordon's. Advanced stats don't lie, GV holds his own with both those guys (crazy I know).

But hate on!

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Which advanced stats?

I never praised Gordon either. I said last year he wasn't worth a max contract even at his best. He's never been that kind of player.

But you won't find GV's advanced stats as good as theirs unless you look at PER which is pretty worthless overall.

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Originally Posted by PowerPel

GV was not that bad.

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GV isn't bad at all. But that doesn't mean he should stay our starter.

GV can not guard starting PGs in playoffs to help us win a championship. The End. I want to keep him around to play on second team and come in as 7th man or 1st guard off bench. He can play both PG or SG on second team and dominate other second teams. He starts and gets good scoring, but no defense. I am tired of watching the opposing PG blow by him into the lane. The opposing PG either makes the floater over davis or someone helps, and they get a open 3. I would like to trade him for a better player to fit our system. Especially if we grab burke in draft.

vasquez could be andre miller 2.0 if we had a starter, which we do not
right now he's what we have, which is better than what some other teams have, and worse than what every playoff team has
PG must be upgraded...either by vasquez getting better, or replaced as the starter

BTW...watching our draft picks play well elsewhere sucks...the end

His value will never be higher than it is right now. Trade him while you can get something good.

And now he is having surgery on both ankles... :(

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Originally Posted by DirtySouf

And now he is having surgery on both ankles... :(

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Well so much for that idea.