I just looked at both jordan and mcgee's stats, advanced stats, and salary
You are getting the same exact player basically. Same rebounding, same defense, athleticism, except Jordan shoots a MUCH higher FG% and true FG %
Plus Deandre is a year younger and 500,000 cheaper. Jordan also has a better win share %. So why does everyone want javale and not mind his contract, but think jordan's is terrible?
Its not THAT bad of a trade, but we wont do it until after the draft, if burke is there i dont see us doing it, however IF burke is gone and we can get mclemore or oladipo I see it happening, and we could sign someone like budinger for the 3 spot to spread the floor.
Now the question is which would u rather?
Burke
Gordon
Budinger
Davis
Lopez
or
***For 8 million cheaper***
Bledsoe
Mclemore or Oladipo
Budinger
Davis
Jordan
The first one is better offensively and the 2nd is better defensively
DeAndre Jordan
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05-14-2013, 01:24 AMHornetGuruDeAndre Jordan
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05-14-2013, 01:29 AMKurgan
Why don't you put all those stats here for us to compare them without the googling? :3
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05-14-2013, 01:54 AMPantazis76
Wow the fact you are considering Deandre Jordan is crazy... He is not a threat at all offensively, and he is HORRIBLE DEFENSIVELY. Why do you think clippers got smashed against Memphis, because of Deandre jordans defense.
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05-14-2013, 01:55 AMAUSSIE_PELICAN
Whats their FT% difference?
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05-14-2013, 02:02 AMbojangles837
Dub post
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05-14-2013, 02:04 AMbojangles837
I'd take javele over Jordan any day of the week
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05-14-2013, 02:05 AMHornetGuruim not considering him, im asking why is someone who is just as productive as javale but younger and cheaper a bad contract but javale is a good contract. Wow the fact that ur reading comprehension couldn't see that is crazy...Quote:
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05-14-2013, 02:05 AMHornetGurunot trying to be a {Mod edit-Please refrain from obscenities}, im just saying how I feel, also i dont think his defense is bad at all, whenever i watch the clippers its pretty good, ya maybe gasol did him in but he's the 2nd best center in the leagueQuote:
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05-14-2013, 02:28 AMPantazis76Didn't Jordan average three points per game in the playoffs or something..Quote:
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05-14-2013, 02:30 AMAUSSIE_PELICANQuote:
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05-14-2013, 04:53 AMGeauxPelicansI'd rather the first team, and it's not even close. Plus that 8 million cheaper argument is irrelevant because Bledsoe would have to be extended next summer. Oh yeah, and Jordan might b the worst contract in the league. No thanksQuote:
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05-14-2013, 05:10 AMImnos 2
I would rather
Burke
Gordon
Budinger
Davis
Jefferson
Bench:
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Rivers
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05-14-2013, 06:33 AMjborobuzzGetting Al Jefferson will stunt AD's growth. No thanksQuote:
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05-14-2013, 06:56 AMImnos 2Then I guess AD isn't as great as we think he could beQuote:
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05-14-2013, 07:55 AMDroopyDawg
Guys... aside from a handful of big men in the league (Pau and Marc Gasol, Z-bo, Duncan, Brook Lopez, Hibbert, a couple more) there aren't that many bigs that will score a bunch of points from their post game. The days of Kareem and Pat Ewing are gone (unfortunately) hell Miami has no center!
Yes Jordan may be a liability offensively with his lack of a post game, but we can definitely run P&R with him, and he can sho nuff run the floor in transition.
I'm not advocating that we get him I'm just saying it wouldn't be as bad as some are making out to be. So lets say for shiggles that Dell makes a move for Jordan and Bledsoe... and maybe even Willie Green. This lineup wouldn't be all bad (good defensive team but won't outscore anyone):
Bledsoe / GV / Roberts
Green /Rivers / Mason Jr
AFA / Miller / ?
AD / Ryno / Amundson
Jordan / Smith / ?
Add a free agent (again... for shiggles)... Iggy can create his own shot as well as knock down jumpers... he's not a pure shooter but he's more consistent that AFA, and he has a decent post game.
Bledsoe / GV / Roberts
Green /Rivers / Mason Jr
Iggy / AFA / Miller / ?
AD / Ryno / Amundson
Jordan / Smith
Add top 5 draft pick:
Bledsoe / GV / Roberts
McLemore / Oladipo / Green /Rivers / Mason Jr
Iggy Shabazz / AFA / Miller
AD / Ryno / Amundson
Jordan / Smith
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05-14-2013, 09:08 AMBallSoHard
Why do we keep suggesting putting garbage players on our team.
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05-14-2013, 11:22 AMTopdawg26THANK YOU!!! At first it was Cousins (who is a big time team cancer) now it's DeAndre Jordan.Quote:
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05-14-2013, 11:37 AMJJackisangryEric Gordon is a terrible person. He hates New Orleans, and i cant stand to have him on my team for one more minute. Eric Gordon=Genghis Khan.Quote:
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05-14-2013, 11:54 AMAD23forMVPBecause he can run fast and jump high which means he's a good player.Quote:
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05-14-2013, 11:56 AMUptownFuz504Can you supply a link or source that sheds more light on this information? There is no factual evidence that supports this statement. How many professional athletes work in a city that may not be their favorite and go home as soon as the season is over? The great Drew Brees lives in 2 other states in the off season. Sean Payton lived in Dallas during the season. Nobody holds this against them but because EG made a statement during an obvious leverage situation, he doesn't want to be here. I'm a native New Orleanian and if someone offered me $54m, I'd say my heart was in Iraq. Just saying. As long as he balls out of control, I could care less if he hates New Orleans. I worked on Wall St in the 90's. I hated NY but I loved the money. Let him earn his check here and he can live where he wants to. Him hating New Orleans is irrelevant to any bball discussion.Quote:
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05-14-2013, 12:09 PMBallSoHardHe was clearly being sarcastic...Quote:
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05-14-2013, 12:20 PMjgman
people keep saying he has one of the worst contracts in the league which is a gross overstatement, it is a bad contract and for only two years on a player who has been top ten in FG% as well as efg% and true shooting%, Blocks and Blocks per game twice each, total rebounding, offensive rebounding, and offensive rating. Lets not forget he's a 24 year old center, people have preached on this board before that centers and big men take longer to come into their prime.
Eric Gordon is more expensive, has a longer contract, plays half the games, and half those games he is disinterested anyway. Is Jordan's contract really one of the worst in the league?
Jordan's offensive game is lacking yea, but he would obviously be a better rim protector, PnR defender, and rebounder, is Lopez's offensive game that important to this team? Do we really need that much more offense from our front court with Davis, Anderson, and Smith all able to knock down shots? Give RoLo's touches to Davis, who will undoubtedly take on a bigger role anyway.
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05-14-2013, 12:46 PMJJackisangryIt was my passive aggressive way of mocking the board for overreacting to the situation you describe. Strange... I thought the Genghis Kahn reference made it clear i was being sarcastic. LolQuote:
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05-14-2013, 12:56 PMPowerPelQuote:
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I thought it was funny. :hihi: All I know about this Jordan guy is that he had that one slam dunk, then you never heard from him again. -
05-14-2013, 01:23 PMEman5805
He's not even close to the worst contracts in the league. You can do a lot worse. But I'd get over if we took him. Just know you've got a really big, athletic, guy with no skill at all. Don't expect a lot, you won't come away really disappointed.
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05-14-2013, 01:26 PMUptownFuz504The sarcasm was not lost on me. I get that. I was just ranting not necessarily @ you. I read this argument all of the time so I just wanted to get that out of my system. i was basically addressing the issue not you. It just came off like I was flaming you. Sorry dude.Quote:
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05-14-2013, 02:31 PMFlyGirl
If this thread was made in an attempt to compare Jordan and McGee in any way, then please do so but please try to remain civil.
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05-14-2013, 02:51 PMJJackisangryI didnt take offense; no harm done.Quote:
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05-14-2013, 06:03 PMNMThreeMVP
Can someone (...anyone) point out the significant difference between Deandre Jordan's game and Tyson Chandler?
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05-14-2013, 06:06 PMHornetGuruwhat i was thinkingQuote:
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05-14-2013, 06:14 PMThe JNR
My only answer to that -- and keep in mind this isn't something I researched, just something I perceive -- is that it seems to me like Tyson knows how to position himself to get those points. He is a smart player, he knows his role and how to fill it. It's certainly possible that Deandre could learn that with time, but that to me is the difference right now.
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05-14-2013, 07:16 PMNMThreeMVPTyson is 30. Jordan is 24.Quote:
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But compare 24 year old Jordan to 24 year old Tyson, and there are a lot of similarities.
Tyson didnt average double digit points or rebounds his first 5 years in the league! His best season as a Hornet, Tyson avg just under 12 pts, 12 rebs, and 1 block.
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05-14-2013, 07:21 PMPowerPel
I think we discussed this in another thread yesterday. No!