Would You Rather Trade Gordon For...

1. nikola vucevic and tobias harris/mo harkless

2. eric bledsoe

3. wilson chandler and mozgov

4. evan turner

5. gordon and lopez for cousins

6. gordon and lopez for derozan and valanciunas

7. gordon and lopez for greg monroe

8. hibbert

9. kawhi leonard

10. derek williams

11. batum

7

1, 3, 4, 5, 8, and 10 I think just won't happen or I wouldn't want,
9 and 2 I like Kawhi and Bledsoe but I don't think that is enough return, maybe if we waited till we saw what Gordon would be like through the first half of the season and reevaluated
I'd take 11 or 7
7 would give us an amazing front court, possibly elite depending on how you see Davis' future(but don't forget about Anderson and JSmooth), don't think anyone could argue with that. Draft 1, sign 1, trade Vasquez/Lopez/? for 1(or another pick):SG, PG, or SF, we know there are a couple of each in our pick range.

I'm actually into 6. I think Valanciunas can be very, very good in this league, and I think Derozan is about as valuable is Gordon since he at least plays in games.

Call the Suns, they gave their cornerstone a max contract, see if they still want their cornerstone.

Ask for their first round pick(even if it has to be top 2,3 protected) and Jarred Dudley. Hell, try and squeeze a lakers pick out of them, but find out if OKC still wants a Perkins for Gortat deal to get from under Perkins' contract.

If OKC still wants to get rid of Perkins that badly, take the deal that the Suns turned down this past deadline, if it wasn't just a rumor.

Gortat for Perkins, Toronto's pick, Lamb, PJIII and Thabeet.

If all that falls in line, assets galore!

He's just excited about the offseason and he makes the board more active with his opinions and ideas.

Why are people suggesting that we could get the Suns first round pick for Gordon?

iirc, it has already been established that the Pelicans can not trade Gordon to the Suns until after July 2014. The NBA Draft is June 27th.

2014 pick??

In fairness to Guru nobody has to read his ideas. The thread title clearly prepares you for a trade proposal. You don't want to engage in this kind of talk simply just bypass the thread altogether.

On subject I'm more in favor of trading for draft picks. I think teams value players more than picks outside of what is likely to be top 3 picks.

However I do love Kawhi Leonard. Unfortunately I think Pop and Buford are in love with him as well. Gordon doesn't seem like Pop's kind of player. If EJ thinks Monty is a hard coach he hasn't seen anything yet.

The trade with Toronto seems interesting. Dorozen would fill in for Gordon and Vac would allow AD to stay at PF which I feel is better for his long term development. However Dorozen just signed a big deal that starts next season. Not sure what TOR interest level in EJ.

Magic trade looks promising as well. I wanted us to trade for Vuvecic before we ever got rid of Okafor and Ariza. I really liked him out of USC. So that may be worth a gamble as center is a position of need. I'm not crazy about the other parts of that trade though. Honestly not sure if ORL wouldn't rather have Affalo over Gordon.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Why are people suggesting that we could get the Suns first round pick for Gordon?

iirc, it has already been established that the Pelicans can not trade Gordon to the Suns until after July 2014. The NBA Draft is June 27th.

2014 pick??

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OK if so that's a good find. We could always just let PHX draft for us then trade once Gordon is available. Which essentially works out as the same thing.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

OK if so that's a good find. We could always just let PHX draft for us then trade once Gordon is available. Which essentially works out as the same thing.

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Which teams do all the time. The parameters of the trade will already be in place, all the players decided upon. They would draft for us and when the date comes, all the players would then be traded, veterans and rookie draft picks.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Why are people suggesting that we could get the Suns first round pick for Gordon?

iirc, it has already been established that the Pelicans can not trade Gordon to the Suns until after July 2014. The NBA Draft is June 27th.

2014 pick??

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I think it is July 2013 (not 2014) that he can be traded to the Suns (one year, not two).

1. That offer from OKC was never on the table for the Suns.

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Paul Coro ‏@paulcoro

I mentioned All-Star break talk of a Perkins/Lamb/pick-Gortat/Tucker swap. Apparently, that was a league rumor but not actual team talks.

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2. No way the Suns would trade their 2013 or 2014 pick for Gordon with his injury history, average play and 15% trade kicker.

I'm not sure I want Evan Turner. I was luke warm on him last year. I proposed a trade of Okafor and Ariza for Vuvecic and Turner with some filler for money purposes. The idea that Philly could have use those to along with Iggy and Holiday to become the best defensive team in the league by far going into the playoffs and we were at the very beginning of a rebuild.

I love Cousins as a talent, but it has become too obvious to ignore he needs veteran leadership and we lack that almost as much as we lack talent. People always kill me because I want a ton of draft picks and guys on rookie contracts. They point to Sacramento as proof a ton of young talent doesn't work. I've always said you need the right group of young guys. Some young men are internally driven. It why I covenanted MKG so much last year and Burke this year (you can add Oladipo to that list). Their work habits and/or effort on the court were apart of their bios as much as their given skill set.

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Originally Posted by demiurg

1. That offer from OKC was never on the table for the Suns.


2. No way the Suns would trade their 2013 or 2014 pick for Gordon with his injury history, average play and 15% trade kicker.

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Good catch, appreciate the correction.

As for point number 2, even if they wouldn't, we have to ask, we won't know that they actually won't, until we try. I would still take Dudley, another young vet shooter to take some of the pressure off of Ryno, and the lakers' pick + other descent assets, maybe a future pick.

At this point, let him go so we can use that salary on some other player or players.

Gordon for klay and Richard Jeff. Salaries work an Jeff is an expiring. I think we are overrating his worth. Klay is only 23

I would take just about any of those at this point

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Originally Posted by NemesisKING

Good catch, appreciate the correction.

As for point number 2, even if they wouldn't, we have to ask, we won't know that they actually won't, until we try. I would still take Dudley, another young vet shooter to take some of the pressure off of Ryno, and the lakers' pick + other descent assets, maybe a future pick.

At this point, let him go so we can use that salary on some other player or players.

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I most certainly think PHX is in play.

1st this is their contract to begin with. For me it all starts there.

2nd they without a doubt have the best(or at least most proven) medical staff that has held together guys 10-12 years old than Gordon.

3rd none of last year acquisitions are paying much dividends. They need to make the same splash they were looking for last year.

Lastly I think they feel confident Gordon will be there long term.

I wouldn't even ask for Dudley. Like I said before I'd take back Brown and Beasley just for there unprotected pick(or #1 pick protected). Shannon's contract expires after the 2014 season and Beasley's after 2015. Combine they are making like 5 million less than Gordon next year. I would look to take Oladipo/McElmore and Burke with our added pick. Provided we are drafting between 3-8. We can even play Beasley at the 3. I know people don't love projecting too far into the future, but Wiggins and Parker could be option in the 2014 draft to address the SF position. The only need if all prospect work out would be center.

i always confuse Vucovic with Pekovic.... shouldn't we go after Pekovic somehow? this team needs some girth.

There aren't enough hypothetical trade Gordon threads already without this one?

How about Larry Sanders and Jennings on a sign and trade? Milwaukee could lose Ellis, Jennings, and Redick.

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Originally Posted by tdcreator

How about Larry Sanders and Jennings on a sign and trade? Milwaukee could lose Ellis, Jennings, and Redick.

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That's a huge haul for what most people consider Gordon is worth. I mean we couldn't even get Klay Thompson for Gordon earlier.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I think it is July 2013 (not 2014) that he can be traded to the Suns (one year, not two).

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Yea ment 2013 but the draft is in June. After we matched Gordon I cant see the Suns willing to do some convulted draft/trade thing where they draft our guy and we trade in July.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Yea ment 2013 but the draft is in June. After we matched Gordon I cant see the Suns willing to do some convulted draft/trade thing where they draft our guy and we trade in July.

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Teams do this all the time on draft day. Draft players knowing what team wants him and they tell the other team what player they want with the same pick. Not sure why they just don't trade picks out right in the NBA. How many times have we seen a player get drafted and take pics in that teams hat only to have the guys covering the draft warn he's likely to be traded to team X?

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

He's just excited about the offseason and he makes the board more active with his opinions and ideas.

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thanks :D

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Yea ment 2013 but the draft is in June. After we matched Gordon I cant see the Suns willing to do some convulted draft/trade thing where they draft our guy and we trade in July.

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Happens all the time in the draft. A team agrees to a trade and drafts the player that their trading partner requests in order to complete the trade. Nothing unusual at all.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

In fairness to Guru nobody has to read his ideas. The thread title clearly prepares you for a trade proposal. You don't want to engage in this kind of talk simply just bypass the thread altogether.

On subject I'm more in favor of trading for draft picks. I think teams value players more than picks outside of what is likely to be top 3 picks.

However I do love Kawhi Leonard. Unfortunately I think Pop and Buford are in love with him as well. Gordon doesn't seem like Pop's kind of player. If EJ thinks Monty is a hard coach he hasn't seen anything yet.

The trade with Toronto seems interesting. Dorozen would fill in for Gordon and Vac would allow AD to stay at PF which I feel is better for his long term development. However Dorozen just signed a big deal that starts next season. Not sure what TOR interest level in EJ.

Magic trade looks promising as well. I wanted us to trade for Vuvecic before we ever got rid of Okafor and Ariza. I really liked him out of USC. So that may be worth a gamble as center is a position of need. I'm not crazy about the other parts of that trade though. Honestly not sure if ORL wouldn't rather have Affalo over Gordon.

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Thank you, while i dont always agree with ur posts i will say u are atleast logical.

also if we trade for klay thompson i will be sick, he isnt very good, he cant defend at all and he is a shooter who is very inconsistant, ill say it again, he is marco bellineli

would anyone trade gordon lopez and our 2013 first round pick for Derrick Rose?

I have nothing against HG. I really enjoy his insight. Was just having a real bad morning. My apologies.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

I have nothing against HG. I really enjoy his insight. Was just having a real bad morning. My apologies.

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I didn't even see u say anything bad, but if u did don't worry about it, we all have stresses of life to deal with. Like I've stated I get really excited about the future of our team and are in rare form to have a great team with whoever we put around Davis. Where else to go to talk about hornets stuff than a hornets forum :)

I know some people dont like my post and crazy ideas but for me its fun and i really like thinking like a GM. The whole point of this is to have fun.
I do try and be logical with my trades lol.

My post got removed by a mod fairly quickly so you can imagine it wasn't too positive. ;)

I usually let you know when your ideas can be far fetched in a respectful manner, today; maybe not so much. All is well. No hard feelings.

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Originally Posted by iNolaNightmare

I have nothing against HG. I really enjoy his insight. Was just having a real bad morning. My apologies.

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I kind of figured something was up. I know I'm newer to the board but I'm starting to recognize people here and that wasn't like you. haha everyone has their moments.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

would anyone trade gordon lopez and our 2013 first round pick for Derrick Rose?

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Lol yes yes and H*LL yes,
But Chicago would explode and become a Michael Bay movie if that ever were to happen

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Originally Posted by NinthWardJay

Lol yes yes and H*LL yes,
But Chicago would explode and become a Michael Bay movie if that ever were to happen

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Well I've talked to a couple people that have ties to the NBA and there are a couple rumors the bulls would move rose for the right price for a few reasons:

1. they are scared rose will lose his explosiveness coming off an ACL injury
2. Noah, boozer and deng are all getting older and on the decline, if they couldnt win a championship with all of them in their prime they wont be doing it soon.
3. I heard if they can get a young piece with a ton of potential (someone like gordon or jrue holliday) plus a high draft pick and a solid 5th option like Lopez they are highly considering it.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

Well I've talked to a couple people that have ties to the NBA and there are a couple rumors the bulls would move rose for the right price for a few reasons:

1. they are scared rose will lose his explosiveness coming off an ACL injury
2. Noah, boozer and deng are all getting older and on the decline, if they couldnt win a championship with all of them in their prime they wont be doing it soon.
3. I heard if they can get a young piece with a ton of potential (someone like gordon or jrue holliday) plus a high draft pick and a solid 5th option like Lopez they are highly considering it.

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Please stop. I assumed you were joking about the Rose thing. Just please... Stop.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Please stop. I assumed you were joking about the Rose thing. Just please... Stop.

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Yeah. Regardless of injury Rose ain't going nowhere. He's an MVP.

I hope no one wants him, so he can stay here. But of course if some team wants to over pay for him, great.

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Originally Posted by smcgull

I hope no one wants him, so he can stay here. But of course if some team wants to over pay for him, great.

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just because someone wants gordon doesnt mean we give him to them.

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

would anyone trade gordon lopez and our 2013 first round pick for Derrick Rose?

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i don't think the bulls are that stupid

How upset would you guys be if Gordon got pawned off to Chicago for Deng and their 2014 first?

I'd hate it but then started thinking about...

Rivers
Oladipo
Deng
Davis
FA

DAT LENGTH. :eek:

That would be a tough 4, I just worry where the points will come from with that roster.

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Originally Posted by NOLa.

That would be a tough 4, I just worry where the points will come from with that roster.

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That roster will score 50 a game if it's "on"

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

That roster will score 50 a game if it's "on"

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Why do you say that? I'm taking a leap of faith, but put Rivers at 12 if given 32 minutes, Dipo should be good for 12+, Deng averages 15+, Davis will be 15+, said FA C should be 10+, Anderson 15...

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Originally Posted by HornetGuru

would anyone trade gordon lopez and our 2013 first round pick for Derrick Rose?

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:eek: