Why not go all in with Oladipo

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...on-This-Summer

I like Gordon as much as the next guy, but I think Oladipo will be a way better pro than Gordon. The guy shot 60% from the field this season go look at your next favorite Guard coming out the draft they'd be lucky to shoot 48+ (EXTREMELY LUCKY). Oladipo is a LOCKDOWN defender play's with 110% on both ends, shot 48% from 3 while not a volume shooter he knocks down his open looks, has ELITE quickness and ATHLETICISM at the NEXT LEVEL. Has a very solid mid range game, gets to the basket at will. To me he should be the undoubted #1 pick, it's really hard to knock a player who plays as hard as he does on both ends of the floor with the intangibles already there, and winning attitude. Also forgot he's an aggressive rebounder.

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Strengths: Oladipo is an explosive athlete with great leaping ability … Has nice size at about 6’5, 215 lbs, and great length and a good build ... Fantastic first step and moves well laterally … A very tough and gritty player who fights for everything … Excellent rebounder for a guard averaging over 5 per game last season … Absolutely relentless on defense and is versatile enough to guard multiple positions … Not one to be outworked on either end of the court … One of the best finishers in the country around the rim due to his athleticism and body control … Moves well without the ball and doesn’t need to have plays drawn up for him to be effective … Hard worker off the court and improved his free throw percentage by 14% this past season ...

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Weaknesses: Oladipo doesn’t have much of an offensive foundation at this point … Has a subpar jump shot with mechanics that lack consistency … Not much of a ball handler at this point … Can be out of control and turnover prone … Lacks a great basketball IQ … While showing huge defensive upside, he still needs to improve his fundamentals … Fouls a bit much (2.5 topg) for a wing prospect who doesn’t even play 30 mpg ...


Sorry we should pass. We will probably keep Gordon, and draft a small forward or pg.

I like Oladipo but like most say on this board, we should pick him only if he's within the BPA.

Agree, He would be a way better bro than Gordan

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Originally Posted by superstar7th

Weaknesses: Oladipo doesn’t have much of an offensive foundation at this point … Has a subpar jump shot with mechanics that lack consistency … Not much of a ball handler at this point … Can be out of control and turnover prone … Lacks a great basketball IQ … While showing huge defensive upside, he still needs to improve his fundamentals … Fouls a bit much (2.5 topg) for a wing prospect who doesn’t even play 30 mpg ...


Sorry we should pass. We will probably keep Gordon, and draft a small forward or pg.

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That evaluation is from last summer, which is very outdated.

He is BPA, from the jump.

I like Oladipo and would prefer to replace Gordon with him(maybe via a trade with PHX for there draft pick this year). I do think his shooting % is inflated. For the most though I agree he's still young (20yo), seasoned (Jr.), but maybe most important has the physical talent to be something special.

I've been saying for a while that both he and Burke may be had this draft. That could be a nice backcourt for the future.

I'll be TOTALLY fine with getting Dipo, no doubt. I love his game and think he has a great ceiling.

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Originally Posted by dcoop

That evaluation is from last summer, which is very outdated.

He is BPA, from the jump.

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I was about to say, that was when he was shooting something TERRIBLE like 28% :hihi:

I actually like his jumper form a lot now, great release and that combined with his height should lead to a great mid range game in the league.

Hell Yes lol. He's got a jet engine which means the sky is the limit.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I like Oladipo and would prefer to replace Gordon with him(maybe via a trade with PHX for there draft pick this year). I do think his shooting % is inflated. For the most though I agree he's still young (20yo), seasoned (Jr.), but maybe most important has the physical talent to be something special.

I've been saying for a while that both he and Burke may be had this draft. That could be a nice backcourt for the future.

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That or imagine if we were able to get a decent SF back for Gordon, or something like sign IGGY. PHX draft pick would be golden.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I was about to say, that was when he was shooting something TERRIBLE like 28% :hihi:

I actually like his jumper form a lot now, great release and that combined with his height should lead to a great mid range game in the league.

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lol yeah, you can see the consistency this year. I love his emotion on the court maybe more than anything, you can tell he's always fully into the game.

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Originally Posted by dcoop

That evaluation is from last summer, which is very outdated.

He is BPA, from the jump.

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I was filling in the rest of the article that the original poster didnt put in. Still dont think he will be better than Gordon at all and we shouldnt get him if Gordon is on this team which i think will be the case. i will say this much he is a much better pick than Alex len.

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Originally Posted by dcoop

That or imagine if we were able to get a decent SF back for Gordon, or something like sign IGGY. PHX draft pick would be golden.

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If we moved Gordon's contract we would save a ton of cap space to offer a max deal to a player who may not be so deserving.

Say we trade him to PHX for there pick. We'd likely have to take back a bad contract maybe two. As long as they expire within a year or two we should be good. We would have Anderson on a decent deal, 4 guys at the beginning of their rookie deals, Lopez signed for another year, Vasquez at the end of his first deal, and PHX's bad expiring contract/s. We could throw a max deal Iggy's way.

I know conventional wisdom says to take the BPA in the NBA draft, but IMO there are usually tiers of players, and I think it makes sense to fill a roster hole if you have players rated similarly. I think Oladipo is in the tier right below McLemore, Smart, and Noel.

We will have a much better idea after the lottery, but right now I'd think the team ends up with Porter, Oladipo, or Burke. So as the roster is currently constructed I'd rather see the team take Porter, but Oladipo is right there on my board and I'd be happy if the Pels end up with him. Burke would also be fine. I have all three of them above Bennett, Shabazz, Len, etc.

Any concerns about his jumper, to me, are pointless. I've seen people go from having no jumper to speak of, to being known as a 3pt shooter later in his career like Richard Jefferson.

Only concern is he's not super good at creating his own offense. But he can still slash and make it happen.

Burke, Oladipo, Porter. A winning trifecta there.

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Originally Posted by Gumbo Jackson

I know conventional wisdom says to take the BPA in the NBA draft, but IMO there are usually tiers of players, and I think it makes sense to fill a roster hole if you have players rated similarly. I think Oladipo is in the tier right below McLemore, Smart, and Noel.

We will have a much better idea after the lottery, but right now I'd think the team ends up with Porter, Oladipo, or Burke. So as the roster is currently constructed I'd rather see the team take Porter, but Oladipo is right there on my board and I'd be happy if the Pels end up with him. Burke would also be fine. I have all three of them above Bennett, Shabazz, Len, etc.

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This. When you grade players if one is an 80 and the other is a 78. If the 78 fills a more pressing need you take that person. Ofcourse you could make a strong case we need a 1, 2, or 3 for the future. The same positions all three just happen to play.

We can't trade Gordon to Suns

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

We can't trade Gordon to Suns

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Once again, we can after July (one year).

The only question is, will he be there when we pick?

I doubt he gets past Detroit.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Once again, we can after July (one year).

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I heard he can not be traded to the suns for the length of his contract.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Once again, we can after July (one year).

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I heard he can not be traded to the suns for the length of his contract.

i just hope we can land 1 of mclemore, porter, oladipo or bazz, then ill be happy.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans_fan_504

I heard he can not be traded to the suns for the length of his contract.

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That was wrong. many people thought the same thing, but it's not true. Only the first year of the contract. So 1 year from the signing day.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

That was wrong. many people thought the same thing, but it's not true. Only the first year of the contract. So 1 year from the signing day.

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OK thanks

Julian Wright was also a great athlete and was a monster dunker.
Not impressed at all.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7729/jwright070606.jpg

Oladipo can't create from the perimeter. He will likely never be that guy. Great complementary player though. If you draft him and get rid of Gordon. We'd still need a playmaker on the perimeter as Oladipo will never a guy to force the issue.

So I wouldn't call him a replacement for Gordon. Gordon's replacement needs to be a playmaker.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Oladipo can't create from the perimeter. He will likely never be that guy. Great complementary player though. If you draft him and get rid of Gordon. We'd still need a playmaker on the perimeter as Oladipo will never a guy to force the issue.

So I wouldn't call him a replacement for Gordon. Gordon's replacement needs to be a playmaker.

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I don't know if I would be as definitive as never, but it's well known creating isn't Victor's strength. I think he has the tools to become good at it. I felt the same way about MKG last year. When you can slash and finish at a good rate there's some hope.

As far as being Gordon's replacement it would be going in a different direction at the position, but I'm not sure it'll be a massive downgrade if at all. Just having him in the court consistently is an upgrades in a lot of ways.

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Originally Posted by takezor

Julian Wright was also a great athlete and was a monster dunker.
Not impressed at all.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7729/jwright070606.jpg

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You realize Oladipo is nothing like Julian Wright, right.

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Originally Posted by dcoop

You realize Oladipo is nothing like Julian Wright, Wright?

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Fify

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

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I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe

I don't know if I would be as definitive as never, but it's well known creating isn't Victor's strength. I think he has the tools to become good at it. I felt the same way about MKG last year. When you can slash and finish at a good rate there's some hope.

As far as being Gordon's replacement it would be going in a different direction at the position, but I'm not sure it'll be a massive downgrade if at all. Just having him in the court consistently is an upgrades in a lot of ways.

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I'll go on record stating that he'll never be an isolation player. His mindset and style won't suddenly change at the next level. I see his game being similar to kawhi Leonard at the next level. Which is a huge praise.

As for Gordon's replacement. It doesn't have to be at the SG position. PG and SF are possibilities. Maybe even a SF/PF type of tweener. For all we know, Rivers becomes at answer in time. But I'm really hoping for a SF that can create and score in isolation.

Keep Gordon, do not take on more bad contracts, never over pay for old players. I guess that is easier said than done. I am sure Demps is going to do the best he can.

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Originally Posted by takezor

Julian Wright was also a great athlete and was a monster dunker.
Not impressed at all.

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7729/jwright070606.jpg

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Jordan was a great athlete and a monster dunker too. Sometimes there are more things to a player's development than just their physical tools. And those things are rarely quantitative.

OBVIOUSLY, there are other degrees of separation that were apparent from Jordan even in college. But all the same...

[QUOTE=Nola Hornet;1062574]Oladipo can't create from the perimeter. He will likely never be that guy. Great complementary player though. If you draft him and get rid of Gordon. We'd still need a playmaker on the perimeter as Oladipo will never a guy to force the issue.

So I wouldn't call him a replacement for Gordon. Gordon's replacement needs to b





He is a no btsiner over Burke. To win it Ã**ll someone witt. The ball must take it in and Zzzfinish

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

Oladipo can't create from the perimeter. He will likely never be that guy. Great complementary player though. If you draft him and get rid of Gordon. We'd still need a playmaker on the perimeter as Oladipo will never a guy to force the issue.

So I wouldn't call him a replacement for Gordon. Gordon's replacement needs to b





He is a no btsiner over Burke. To win it Ã**ll someone witt. The ball must take it in and Zzzfinish

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Are you drunk?

He has more JuJu in him than what he has of Jordan or Wade, something I have read over here many times.
I'm just saying this cause many ppl jizz his pants with anyone who is athletic and can dunk.

I think this draft isn't as talented as people think, we'll see someone draft the next Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons in the lottery. Hopefully, we can avoid that and get a great player.

GET TREY BURKES

Dude is going to be the best player from this draft.

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Originally Posted by HalfBreed

I think this draft isn't as talented as people think, we'll see someone draft the next Hilton Armstrong and Cedric Simmons in the lottery. Hopefully, we can avoid that and get a great player.

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Yeah, but every draft has those guys scattered around somewhere. What you'd be saying is that there are a lot of those guys in this draft or the players people like aren't that good.

I want Gordon to be the guy. He has the ability to be everything the team needs next to Davis. Very capable defender, attacks the rim with ease, good jump shot, good ball handling. draws a lot of fouls.

Unfortunately, only Gordon really knows how much he wants to play for this team and only Gordon truly knows how injured he really is at any given time. Throw in his large contract and that he can opt out in two years and go elsewhere without it being matched this time... this team has some tough decisions coming up that will be important for the building blocks during Davis's early prime years.

I'm OK with trading him if the team feels at this point that Gordon won't be the guy they want next to Davis. There's no one in this draft that I think can be as good as Gordon could/should be though. But they should get a capable starter with their pick, and who knows what they could get from trading Gordon (probably nothing more than a protected first round pick and a player with somewhat of a matching salary for the upcoming season).

Something else to remember too is that Davis and Rivers are just as young, if not younger, than anyone this team will be able to draft this year. That includes McLemore (considering that he's really two years out of high school) and Shabazz.

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Originally Posted by bradael

I want Gordon to be the guy. He has the ability to be everything the team needs next to Davis. Very capable defender, attacks the rim with ease, good jump shot, good ball handling. draws a lot of fouls.

Unfortunately, only Gordon really knows how much he wants to play for this team and only Gordon truly knows how injured he really is at any given time. Throw in his large contract and that he can opt out in two years and go elsewhere without it being matched this time... this team has some tough decisions coming up that will be important for the building blocks during Davis's early prime years.

I'm OK with trading him if the team feels at this point that Gordon won't be the guy they want next to Davis. There's no one in this draft that I think can be as good as Gordon could/should be though. But they should get a capable starter with their pick, and who knows what they could get from trading Gordon (probably nothing more than a protected first round pick and a player with somewhat of a matching salary for the upcoming season).

Something else to remember too is that Davis and Rivers are just as young, if not younger, than anyone this team will be able to draft this year. That includes McLemore (considering that he's really two years out of high school) and Shabazz.

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great post, i agree 100% gordon can score like mclemore and defend like oladipo, if he can stay on the court is the question.