How much would you pay Jennings?

I would give him $10 mil a season. If Rondo is getting $11-$13mil a season (as the new "man") I see no reason why you pay Jennings more than that (when we have 3 other "men" on the team).

Good question. Think it should be broken down into 2 parts:

How much you would be willing to pay : I think 9 per year with 10 % increases per.
How much you think it'd take for Milwaukee to not match: probably about 13 perseason

Absolutely nothing above 10 million a season.

I'm not even that convinced Jennings is a fit here.

I'd rather throw big money at Pekovic and use Lopez and/or Smith to acquire a wing or point.

To answer the question, $11 million is about market, and he could outplay that. It'll take $14m for them not to match, maybe less if they do S&T.

What do you think that they would they want in a sign and trade?

i'd rather Al Jefferson

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Originally Posted by Biasvasospasm

I'd rather throw big money at Pekovic and use Lopez and/or Smith to acquire a wing or point.

To answer the question, $11 million is about market, and he could outplay that. It'll take $14m for them not to match, maybe less if they do S&T.

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Absolutely agree with you. Word is that not everyone in Minnesota thinks pek is worth the 12 he will command. Ad and pek is a monstrous big lineup.

I'm also thinking he's not the right player either for that team or next to Gordon. For what I've seen he's a volume scorer and I think he's got a big ego. Not worth $10M or more for sure.

Not much more than whatever the MLE is. I just don't see him as being a game changer and warranting more than that. :shrug:

I would go for Jennings over Pek. Pej is fine, but we need a pg, not a big. this draft is big heavy, and pg light, so pg and Jennings would be the best bet. Pek is finally starting to come on at age 27, and this is his prime. He will break down towards the end of that contract, while Jennings is still young enough to learn new tricks, and get better.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Absolutely nothing above 10 million a season.

I'm not even that convinced Jennings is a fit here.

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Me either dude. I'd rather draft a PG or just find a better vet backup to GV than shell out the money it's gonna take to land BJ without the Bucks matching.

I'd rather throw that money at Pek.

Burke and Pek

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I would go for Jennings over Pek. Pej is fine, but we need a pg, not a big. this draft is big heavy, and pg light, so pg and Jennings would be the best bet. Pek is finally starting to come on at age 27, and this is his prime. He will break down towards the end of that contract, while Jennings is still young enough to learn new tricks, and get better.

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What big do you take at 6-12 if Zeller (likely) and Len (likely) are gone and Burke/Smart are staring you in the face?

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Burke and Pek

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THIS.

So Hard this. :hihi:

If we give them a number they don't like (let's say twelve), I think they'd do it for Vasquez or a similar asset class (Jason Smith). Not sure whether I'd like that for that price, as I love the idea of Vasquez running a second unit and think that's a slight overpayment contract-wise for Jennings.

He's going to get the max somewhere. he's probably next up on the list for all-star replacements if another member of the east cant play

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

What big do you take at 6-12 if Zeller (likely) and Len (likely) are gone and Burke/Smart are staring you in the face?

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I would actually go with Plumlee or Stein as a big, or trade back and get Jeff Withey or Rudy Gobert. I mean if Zeller and Len are both gone, then either Noel, Bennet, Muhammed, or McLemour havent been drafted yet, and in that case we should go BPA.

As for a pg, I wouldn't take either of those guys if they were still on the board. I would go Trey Burk or CJ McCullum over either of those two you mentioned.

I still like the idea of Jeff Teague being here, but can anyone provide an accurate comparison between Jennings and Teague defensively?

I like Jeff Teague as well, and think a change in venue would help him. Signing him would probably be cheaper than Jennings, but its like getting the off brand of Tide or something.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I like Jeff Teague as well, and think a change in venue would help him. Signing him would probably be cheaper than Jennings, but its like getting the off brand of Tide or something.

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I am not convinced that Teague would be an "off brand".....it seems to me that he is just more efficient offensively than Jennings....

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I would go for Jennings over Pek. Pej is fine, but we need a pg, not a big. this draft is big heavy, and pg light, so pg and Jennings would be the best bet. Pek is finally starting to come on at age 27, and this is his prime. He will break down towards the end of that contract, while Jennings is still young enough to learn new tricks, and get better.

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My move would be to offer 12 to pek in FA. If we get him. I would then Flip vaz and Lopez for Bledsoe after cp3 resigns with clips. Draft Bpa (hard to say depends on who is there when we pick; would love mclemore, shabazz, or Burke). Pick up Corey brewer. Attempt to get budinger. Not opposed to resigning aminu for 2-3.

Pek isn't going to break down in 4 years dude is a hybrid grizzly-train.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

I would actually go with Plumlee or Stein as a big, or trade back and get Jeff Withey or Rudy Gobert. I mean if Zeller and Len are both gone, then either Noel, Bennet, Muhammed, or McLemour havent been drafted yet, and in that case we should go BPA.

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Good point. I probably should have used 8-12 :hihi:

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As for a pg, I wouldn't take either of those guys if they were still on the board. I would go Trey Burk or CJ McCullum over either of those two you mentioned.

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I said Burke...

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

What big do you take at 6-12 if Zeller (likely) and Len (likely) are gone and Burke/Smart are staring you in the face?

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Not a big, but Otto Porter makes entirely too much sense for this team given that SF is an enormous hole. Terrific rebounder and passer for position, arguably the best midrange shot in this draft, extended his range (45% from 3), long, smart and active defender who fills up the stat sheet, very high basketball IQ. Not a sexy pick, but fits unbelievably well, will play from day one, and will play for a long time. That's what I want in the mid lottery.

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Originally Posted by Biasvasospasm

Not a big, but Otto Porter makes entirely too much sense for this team given that SF is an enormous hole. Terrific rebounder and passer for position, arguably the best midrange shot in this draft, extended his range (45% from 3), long, smart and active defender who fills up the stat sheet, very high basketball IQ. Not a sexy pick, but fits unbelievably well, will play from day one, and will play for a long time. That's what I want in the mid lottery.

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I love Porter, no complaints there.

You guys are kidding about that much money for Pek right ?

I like Teague too but I think atl is happy with him. They have plenty of room to match any offer. Don't see them letting him go.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

You guys are kidding about that much money for Pek right ?

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Do you know how many teams with big cap room there will be this summer in which most desirable realistic options are restricted? A lot of guys will be overpaid.

I dont think Burke will be anything close to the project Rivers obviously is (if he even pans out)....he wouldnt step right in from jump street, but Burke's game appears much more NBA ready and I will go back to my notion that I would strongly consider relinquishing Rivers for the 10th pick in this upcoming draft....

Burke's not a project at all. His game will translate very well.

Someone will give it to him; it's not a stretch. He is avg 16pts 9reb and that's next to love who only hurts his reb numbers(I know he's been out). He has great post game. Is a huge body to bang with whomever. Will set great picks bc he is so wide. Will allow ad to roam. I just think he is one of the only true centers out there.

move the Pek talk to the Pek thread.

There is too much Jennings talk in the pek thread.

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Originally Posted by Biasvasospasm

Do you know how many teams with big cap room there will be this summer in which most desirable realistic options are restricted? A lot of guys will be overpaid.

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So? Doesn't have to be us. We're not desperate.

8-9 mln per season. Still, with him and gordon we'd have one of the smallest back courts in the league and i don't like it one bit. They're far from being great rebounders, jennings is ball-dominant (if gordon doesn't have enough touches now with vásquez, how many more with jennings?) and neither is such a great passer.

Still, better him than bledsoe, unless we magically pull out of the blue a 25+ppg sf

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Originally Posted by goat gorilla

My move would be to offer 12 to pek in FA. If we get him. I would then Flip vaz and Lopez for Bledsoe after cp3 resigns with clips. Draft Bpa (hard to say depends on who is there when we pick; would love mclemore, shabazz, or Burke). Pick up Corey brewer. Attempt to get budinger. Not opposed to resigning aminu for 2-3.

Pek isn't going to break down in 4 years dude is a hybrid grizzly-train.

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Bledsoe is horrible laterly playing starting point guard

Flipping Vasquez and Lopez for Bledsoe is a major step backwards for this organization.

All of our bigs can shoot the midrange; even Lopez. We have obvious holes at pg and sf; we have no need for projects at this point. Brandon jennings is not the perfect player, but he is further along than Bledsoe who is somewhat overrated on this board. He can be very good, but he isnt close to where he needs to be yet running a team.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

So? Doesn't have to be us. We're not desperate.

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Exactly. Pek is not a big enough upgrade over Lopez to give him that contract. The thing that sucks is that BJ (no pun intended) will probably be in the same boat paywise. He would command close to the max, but we need a PG that can at least stay in front of the elite guards and get stops.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Exactly. Pek is not a big enough upgrade over Lopez to give him that contract. The thing that sucks is that BJ (no pun intended) will probably be in the same boat paywise. He would command close to the max, but we need a PG that can at least stay in front of the elite guards and get stops.

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Agreed. I think we're more desperate for a quick one. But TBH I'd rather overpay for a 3 than either one. Vasquez and Lopez are ok gap fillers for the time being.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Agreed. I think we're more desperate for a quick one. But TBH I'd rather overpay for a 3 than either one. Vasquez and Lopez are ok gap fillers for the time being.

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Vazquez can run a team he just choses not to at times lol. Sf is our most desperate postion, but there is no one outside the draft im overly excited about.

As far as Jennings goes, I'd be comfortable in the $10-12 range, mostly because we are going to have to go a little higher to steal him from Milwaukee. However, ideally, he's on a Ryan Anderson $8-9 mil/year contract.

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

I love Porter, no complaints there.

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He's starting to grow on me. Could be an elite role player.

I would go up to 4yrs/40mil for Jennings, but there is no way he will accept it. Some team is probably going to offer him a max deal. A lot of teams will have money to spend this offseason and that always leads to ridiculous contracts.

It doesn't matter, because the Bucks are gonna match whatever offer he gets

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

It doesn't matter, because the Bucks are gonna match whatever offer he gets

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I think the only way they might not match is via a sign and trade where you would have to take Gooden's horrible contract back. Even if you sign Jennings on a reasonable deal you would have to overpay in the end.

10-12 mill

Jennings... bet the farm and lock him up/force Milwaukee's hand.

Do exactly what PHX did to us and hope the coin bounces the other way or his frustrations make the brass back down and let him go.

If I'm not mistaken, can't we work out some kind of S&T, or is that not allowed under the new CBA in this particular situation?

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Originally Posted by TBlaze

Jennings... bet the farm and lock him up/force Milwaukee's hand.

Do exactly what PHX did to us and hope the coin bounces the other way or his frustrations make the brass back down and let him go.

If I'm not mistaken, can't we work out some kind of S&T, or is that not allowed under the new CBA in this particular situation?

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We did a S&T for Anderson. Would the Bucks be interested if we signed Jennings and traded them vasquez?

I still can't believe we S&T for Anderson and only gave up Ayon.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Flipping Vasquez and Lopez for Bledsoe is a major step backwards for this organization.

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Agreed 100%

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

We did a S&T for Anderson. Would the Bucks be interested if we signed Jennings and traded them vasquez?

I still can't believe we S&T for Anderson and only gave up Ayon.

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Yeah, I was hoping that was the case. I just couldn't remember if Ryno was RFA or UFA... thanks for clearing that up.

I think we could definitely do this if MIL was interested in someone like Vaquez, Henry, or even Rivers... and maybe our 1st next year? I'd be willing to push the chips in to get Jennings and then draft a SF or another scoring wing in the draft. Sign me up.

Edit: I'm assuming we could sign Henry to a new contract and then flip that deal just like they'd do w/ Jennings. If that's impossible... my B.

I'm not sure if Anderson was RFA or not. I assume so.

I wouldn't go as far as offer our 1st round pick. You don't get market value in a S&T.