next year's FA crop?

where is a good listing of next year's FA's a RFA's?
We will likely have a lot of cap space, regardless of what we do with our own expirings, Gordon, amnesty, etc., we'll have room to make offers. Monty and Dell have a good rep among players, it seems, and ownership should be cleared up by then (shoot me if it's not...) and we've got some young talent and lottery selections. Not that we would be seriously considered by Williams and Howard- and what we will need is very TBD depending on what we moves we make this season and the draft, but until Gordon gets healthy I'm not thinking about this season at all, so I may as well think about next...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agents

That's a pretty thorough list.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/s...eeAgents-11-12

not much, augustin, dragic are the only gettable ones that interest me, unless we could get d-will or dwight...there are some decent restricted FAs like gallinari and batum tho

Ramon Sessions, D.J Augustine, Louis Williams, Javalle McGee, Nicolas Batum, Kevin Love and a couple of others would fit our bill perfectly, and we have the cap space to make a run for a couple of them, how ever, we might have to overpay which could be a terrible idea. We know where over paying to grab the free agent goes (Peja/Posey). So we try for them, but if we don't get them then worse things could happen.

cant the t-wolves match any offer for Love? if so i dont see why they wouldnt give him the max

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Originally Posted by rbow.

cant the t-wolves match any offer for Love? if so i dont see why they wouldnt give him the max

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I don't either, but apparently Minnesota was dragging their feet and he told them they had until the 15 (which is today) to get him an extension offer. It's Minnesota so they don't need a good reason to do something stupid, but the only good reason I can think of for the delay is giving Adelman time to make roster assessments before committing a max deal to Love.

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We know where over paying to grab the free agent goes (Peja/Posey).

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The difference here is Peja/Posey were declining vets, not young guys headed into their prime. It'd be more like overpaying Tyrus Thomas.

The only one in that list that I think is a good fit (skill/age/price) would be DJ. He is a pass-first guard that has been forced into more of a scoring role with the Cats. He is not all-star caliber, but he would help any team that doesn't already have an all-star point guard. I would really like him if we could get him for a reasonable price.

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Originally Posted by Kibner

The only one in that list that I think is a good fit (skill/age/price) would be DJ. He is a pass-first guard that has been forced into more of a scoring role with the Cats. He is not all-star caliber, but he would help any team that doesn't already have an all-star point guard. I would really like him if we could get him for a reasonable price.

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Hes also from New Orleans. Automatic fan favorite.

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Originally Posted by Kibner

The only one in that list that I think is a good fit (skill/age/price) would be DJ. He is a pass-first guard that has been forced into more of a scoring role with the Cats. He is not all-star caliber, but he would help any team that doesn't already have an all-star point guard. I would really like him if we could get him for a reasonable price.

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I agree about DJ - at the right price. But I also really like Gorgan Dragic, and I think he would be a perfect compliment to Gordon at the 1. Great shooter off the ball, and he is a pass-first guy who doesn't have to dominate the ball.

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Originally Posted by praff7

Hes also from New Orleans. Automatic fan favorite.

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I really don't care about that. He would be a perfect mid-level pick up. If we grabbed him, there wouldn't be a need for another point guard for quite a few years. Dragic looks too much like Vasquez to me. I don't think he can bring the consistency that would be needed every night.

Eric Gordon/Dwight Howard/D.J Aug ---- Nba Championship :D

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Originally Posted by NO_Bound

Eric Gordon/Dwight Howard/D.J Aug ---- Nba Championship :D

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eric gordon, MKG, Dwight = championship

We will have a lot of money to play around with. The salary for our roster for next year is only $33.7 million in committed dollars, and that includes (Okafor, Ariza, Jack, Aminu, Henry, Vasquez, and Summers). Jason Smith's contract and Ayon's contract was not available on hoopshype:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_orleans.htm

So, theoretically, we can well afford to sign Gordon to a good sized contract, and we can still afford an All Star FA player like Dwight Howard (assuming he would come here to play with Gordon, and for the max deal we could offer him). Even still, we have the amnesty clause that we can use on Okafor should such a situation occur, and that would save us over $13 million in cap space next year.

Lots of options for Demps, so I am excited to see what he does.

DJ/Wroten
EJ/Beli/Henry
MKG/Aminu
Love ;)/Landry
Drummond/Kaman/Ayon

^^Championship (Soon)

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Originally Posted by aussieNOHfan

DJ/Wroten
EJ/Beli/Henry
MKG/Aminu
Love ;)/Landry
Drummond/Kaman/Ayon

^^Championship (Soon)

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Lets dump Love and Wroten and replace them with Anthony Davis. The atleast your lovely dream is plausible :cool:

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Lets dump Love and Wroten and replace them with Anthony Davis. The atleast your lovely dream is plausible :cool:

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lol thats like 3 top 7 picks haha

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

We will have a lot of money to play around with. The salary for our roster for next year is only $33.7 million in committed dollars, and that includes (Okafor, Ariza, Jack, Aminu, Henry, Vasquez, and Summers). Jason Smith's contract and Ayon's contract was not available on hoopshype:

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_orleans.htm

So, theoretically, we can well afford to sign Gordon to a good sized contract, and we can still afford an All Star FA player like Dwight Howard (assuming he would come here to play with Gordon, and for the max deal we could offer him). Even still, we have the amnesty clause that we can use on Okafor should such a situation occur, and that would save us over $13 million in cap space next year.

Lots of options for Demps, so I am excited to see what he does.

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Try

http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_...rleans-hornets

This has the full salaries

Much as I'd love to speculate about how we could clear enough space for Howard and DWill, but Howard has EMPHATICLY has listed his locations - and we are not on the list

Sign DJ and draft BIG

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Originally Posted by aussieNOHfan

DJ/Wroten
EJ/Beli/Henry
MKG/Aminu
Love ;)/Landry
Drummond/Kaman/Ayon

^^Championship (Soon)

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You forgot Summers. Dude is playing better than aminu.

my bad

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Originally Posted by aussieNOHfan

lol thats like 3 top 7 picks haha

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;) But it's still more likely than us getting Kevin Love in free agency.

come on. DJ? really? I don't see the PG answers among the FA class. who all is out there on teams with a glut at PG? I don't see Indy parting with one of theirs, they are too flexible. Clippers are going to have to make moves, but what are the odds we could be the ones that get Bledsoe after all? who else has too many? anybody?

the one FA I think has a chance at ending up somewhere unexpected is DWill, but I doubt it's us. he'll be wanting to be somewhere that is a little further along.

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Originally Posted by Hugeaux II

come on. DJ? really? I don't see the PG answers among the FA class. who all is out there on teams with a glut at PG? I don't see Indy parting with one of theirs, they are too flexible. Clippers are going to have to make moves, but what are the odds we could be the ones that get Bledsoe after all? who else has too many? anybody?

the one FA I think has a chance at ending up somewhere unexpected is DWill, but I doubt it's us. he'll be wanting to be somewhere that is a little further along.

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Whats wrong with D.J? He can light it up, shoots a good 3, and is unselfish with the ball. I think he has a lot of potential. Would fit well into our system, especially Monty taught him to play above average D then he would be a player who could do everything. However the best part might be that he is a local guy that the fans can love. I know everyone scoffs at the Thornton lovers, but having a fan favorite can help the team.

he'd be a fan favorite no doubt. I just don't see him as a starter. a good solid career as a back up, I personally just dont see him as a starter

Well I kind of see him as a Raymond Felton type. Good passer, and can score but probably shouldn't be more than the 3rd string scoring option. But I can see where you're coming from.

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Originally Posted by Hugeaux II

he'd be a fan favorite no doubt. I just don't see him as a starter. a good solid career as a back up, I personally just dont see him as a starter

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i think DJ would be a great fit... he is averaging 15 and 7 on a HORRIBLE bobcats team and can hit the open 3 all day long and doesnt miss FTs ... with us he wouldnt be asked to score like he is for the cats so he can focus on distributing and hitting 3s when he needs to... Championship teams dont have the All-Star PG ... they have the efficient PG, the scorer, and solid BIGs ... sign DJ, draft BIGs and let the rebuild begin.

augustin is a terrible defender btw according to hollinger

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Originally Posted by CP4MVP

augustin is a terrible defender btw according to hollinger

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good thing our coach teaches good defense

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Originally Posted by SlimJim89

good thing our coach teaches good defense

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he has been coached by larry brown already and now paul silas who i know coached pretty good d when he was the hornets coach

I love Augustin, he's the one player we may not have to overpay; but he can't hack the physical defense we want to play.
Two players I wish we would consider are Nicholas Batum (25 min. per game );11.8 PPG 4.5 RPG while shooting 48% from the arc
AND Boris Diaw (30 min. per game) 8.8 PPG 6.8 RPG and 4.8 APG ((without two quality PG's we may have to run some plays via a point-forward))

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Originally Posted by fullcourtpress

I love Augustin, he's the one player we may not have to overpay; but he can't hack the physical defense we want to play.
Two players I wish we would consider are Nicholas Batum (25 min. per game );11.8 PPG 4.5 RPG while shooting 48% from the arc
AND Boris Diaw (30 min. per game) 8.8 PPG 6.8 RPG and 4.8 APG ((without two quality PG's we may have to run some plays via a point-forward))

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I wouldn't touch Borris Diaw with a ten foot pole. The guy is out of shape and has no passion for the game. Last I read, he had shot two free throws through out the whole year (number may have grown in the last couple of games). All he does is shoot the three.

I'm a firm believer that we will HAVE to sign a decent pg to go with Eric Gorden and our two draftees. If most agree that it's DJ, I can handle that but I think there are some other decent names out their next year .

If we can pay DWILL, lets go after him hard. Then draft Thomas Robinson and Drummond. If Drummond stays in college, Draft Anothony Davis or Jared Sullinger.

MKG is also a option but I'd rather any of the above 4 over him.

What about Ian Mahinmi? He's a Demps product and they are saying he might take over the starting job in Dallas this season. He's a UFA next year and Dallas will supposedly be busy making plays for DWill and Howard.

If we have a shot at DWill, I would accept no substitutes. Having him and EG in the backcourt with two top five picks under the goal would give us a legitimate title shot in 2 to 3 years. Drummond or Davis plus MKG would put some fire into the organization!!

What about beabois? Dallas may have to deal him to clear space to make a run at both deron and Howard

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Originally Posted by Hugeaux II

What about beabois? Dallas may have to deal him to clear space to make a run at both deron and Howard

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:2thumb2: I'd love to get him here, but his salary is so low I don't think Dallas would just dump him for anything. They've been offered late lottery picks before for him, so I'm guessing they hang onto him unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

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Originally Posted by BP225

What about Ian Mahinmi? He's a Demps product and they are saying he might take over the starting job in Dallas this season. He's a UFA next year and Dallas will supposedly be busy making plays for DWill and Howard.

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It's hard to tell. Mahinmi's salary is so low, it'd have to take a hefty offer for Dallas not to consider Matching (I know he's not restricted, but I'm saying Dallas might offer the exact deal-He shares the same agent with Beaubois). I could see them trying to retain him if they get Howard (they'll have to amnesty Haywood to get Howard anyways leaving back up c open), but I could also see them holding onto him regardless. We'd have to go hard and offer a deal Dallas wouldn't consider offering. (Mid level?). Mahinmi's young and his potential was the reason why Presti helped Buford (spurs gm) draft him.

Beaubios isn't a RFA until 2013/14 so thats a long time to wait.
Mahinmi is a FA next year, so he would be worth chasing.

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Originally Posted by Kcazbarach

We'd have to go hard and offer a deal Dallas wouldn't consider offering. (Mid level?).

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If he ends up the starter in Dallas and looks decent I'd offer him the mid level. If we're building around Gordon I don't think we have the time to wait on a young center from this draft to develop, even if it's someone with as much potential as Drummond.

Nobody likes Felton? I would like to try and get him or DJ or Jrue Holiday if Philly doesnt resign him, if we couldnt pull D-Will. Then I would like to get a backup SG for Gordon with either Louis Williams, Landry Fields, or Nick Young. Stick with Ariza, Summers, Aminu at the 3 and then at the 4 draft Robinson, resign Smith or Landry. and get Drummond

Possible Lineup.Pending who we resign at center and PF and SF

PG- D-Will/ Jack
SG- EG/ Louis Williams/ Henry
SF- Ariza/ Summer/ Aminu
PF- Robinson/Smith
C- Drummond/ Kaman or Oak

I don't particularly care for Felton; wish I could explain why but I just don't have confidence in him to setup the offense. We have Xavier for backup sg already, if he pans out.

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