E. PAYTON BRING BACK
Randle Sign To Muti Years Deal
Okafor Sign Two Year Deal (Right price)
S Johnson Summer League and see
D. Miller Under Contract
K Williams Sign Mult Year Rookie Deal. ( Demp Hit a HOME RUN with THis GUY)
F.Jackson Great UPSIDE!!! Stay
j. Smith Keep the Last man on Roster!!
C. Diallo Sign to Mult Year deal
Mr Miss THE Big Shot Moore
Ian clack, seldon use Hill. GOODBYE YOU GUYS SUCKS
{edited - veiled language} DAVIS TRADE AND WE WILL SEE WHO WILL BE ON THE ROSTER NEXT YEAR
Pelicans 2019-2020 Roster Moves
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03-05-2019, 09:53 AMLtdee2019Pelicans 2019-2020 Roster Moves
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03-05-2019, 10:06 AMTinman1) why extend Okafor, he still has 1 yr on contractQuote:
Originally Posted by Ltdee2019
2) Randle would have to opt out & then we would have to see who jumps up & overpay him.
3) Stanley John is GONE.
4) Miller is NOT under contract.
5) Clark gone.
6) sign Chieck to a 1& 1 deal on minimum.
7) Sign Payton to a 2yr deal 3-4 mill per
8) Kenrich is still under contract.
9) Solo, AD & Moore are moving on.
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03-05-2019, 11:04 AMda ThRONe
Fire sell. Be terrible for 2 or 3 seasons draft well and be competitive in 5 years. I understand losing for some people isn't fun or enjoyable, but I'm completely ok with losing with a purpose.
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03-05-2019, 11:33 AMPelicanidae
Open to signing Randle multi year ONLY if it's cheap. If he demands any more than $16m per, I let him walk.
Moore will be easy to move if we decide to do that. 40+% three point shooter on a pretty small contract, expiring. Teams will want that. -
03-05-2019, 12:20 PMkinglio21093
E'Twaun lost a step after his injury. The dude was playing lights out for us for a little bit. Needless to say, I think we should move him. I always enjoyed watching him, but he's getting older and I think he'd be a better fit for someone who's making more of a playoff push.
Gotta re-sign Payton. Non-negotiable.
Try as hard as you can to get a reasonable deal for Randle. He's important for this team and I think he's very worth keeping.
I honestly don't know what to do with Darius. Good player, and hits big shots. But he is older so you gotta see what to do.
Keep Cheick.
Stanley Johnson is out. I was for keeping him when we traded for him, but he's been baaaaaad.
Shoot Solomon Hill to the moon.
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03-05-2019, 12:49 PMImnos 2
None of you guys mentioned Jrue. Don't be surprised if he requests a trade at the end of the season. Especially if we somehow get trash back in the AD trade.
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03-05-2019, 12:56 PMTinmanThats Silly. Jrue has 3 yrs left on his contract. Hes going nowhere at 26 million per.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imnos 2
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03-05-2019, 01:04 PMkinglio21093Really depends on the return we get for AD. If we get Tatum, Brown, and/or Smart, I definitely think he stays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imnos 2
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03-05-2019, 01:10 PMPelicanidaeYeah, agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by kinglio21093
If the team goes full-tear down, then maybe Jrue asks to be moved so that he can have one last chance at winning (he's not old but he's certainly not young enough to sit through a 3-4 year rebuild without his game deteriorating), and in those circumstances I would be okay with moving him. Both out of respect for what he's done for us, and also as a way of gathering more assets.
If the team makes even token efforts at remaining decent next year as they enter a kind of quick re-tool, either via the Boston trade or some other avenue, then I think he stays with zero complaint.
I actually think he would stay even in the first case, as a mentor and a team leader, but either way the only way I move him is if he requests it. -
03-05-2019, 03:14 PMGuardianAngel25Love this! Do not agree on Stanley Johnson at all. No reason to waste even a summer league spot on this guy. I liked him a few years ago on the thought he would develop some kind of game offensively but he is terrible. Bringing back Payton needs to be one of outlet top priorities as his return is a big reason imo we are winning games. If he’s willing to come off the bench we have a PG who makes everyone around him better and easily on of the best bench PG in the NBA. He’s only going to keep getting better Elfrid, Jackson, and Keinrich is a nice little trip that can grow together. I’m starting to lean towards paying Randle $18 million if that’s what it takes. No telling how much better he can get with another off season as he starts to enter the prime of his career. Gotta bring all of these young guys back for sure as each one can play a role and be very valuable to this team especially at their price.Quote:
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03-05-2019, 03:43 PM6warddude
for me its hard to say.....new gm and coach factor in who stays and goes.....also player fit with the new coach style should factor in with the AD trade....
we couldnt build a solid team around AD at the 4 so im not down with randle being the second highest player on the team and i love the guy play....
the teams who won the last 10 titles had the dominating player at the 1-3 positions....i want us to find our dominating player and put majority of our cap in the 1-3 positions....that model has been working and i dont see it changing soon so why cant we follow that model in this rebuild?.....
my dream trade at the deadline would have been AD for booker or lilllard if that was possible and that way we would of had a guard who can take over games to match with jrue...... -
03-05-2019, 03:48 PMImnos 2You would think the contract would be prohibitive but there were a few teams willing to take on Mike Conley's deal. Plus we already know people were calling us about Jrue's availability before the deadline.Quote:
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03-05-2019, 03:50 PMAUSSIE_PELICANRandle – Multi deal if it’s around the 16M per year. If not 40M (20M a year with a team option) so that he can be traded for an asset later down the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltdee2019
Okafor – is already contracted.
S. Johnson – Is trash (SL is they are desperate)
D. Miller – Is not under contract hence why they signed Dairis Bertans, he is Miller’s replacement.
K. Williams - is already under contract
F. Jackson - is already under contract
J. Smith – Is too old and won’t stay on a re-building team
C. Diallo – The team will wait and see what offer he gets from other teams as he is RFA.
You missed one…. E. Payton
I would bring him back if they trade Davis with Boston, otherwise if it is with NY then they have enough PG’s.
Do some research next time, this is a good website.
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03-05-2019, 04:30 PMGuardianAngel25I think 90% of the NBA would gladly take this contract. With what players are getting paid it is a steal especially when you consider its entirety is in the prime of his career. For example CP3 is getting paid $39 million AAV while Jrue is at $26 million AAV.. CP3 will run into his mid to late 30s during the deal while Jrues will be up as he enters his 30s. You can’t tell me CP3 is worth $13 million more per year over Jrue and I can make a case that Jrue is the better player. This isn’t the only player you can easily show Jrue is the better value player either.Quote:
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03-05-2019, 07:25 PMPelicans78
I'm just gonna look at the current guys we have now.
AD - trade obviously for the best value.
Stanley Johnson - Negative value. One year left on rookie deal. Inclined to keep him, but wouldn't oppose waiving 4th year option
Et'waun Moore - Keep him for now. We can either let him expire or trade him at the deadline to a team looking to slash salary if we're making a playoff push.
Cheick Diallo - Bring him back for sure. Very good backup player. Offer a 2 year $5-8 million total.
Solomon Hill - see Etwaun Moore. Has little value except for a team trying to shed long-term money;
Jrue Holiday - Almost untouchable unless blown away by an offer.
Frank Jackson - He's cheap and young
Darius Miller - Replacement level player - At the most offer a one year - $2.5 million contract
Jason Smith - minimum level player/roster filler. Would let him go
Elfrid Payton - bring him back on a one year deal around 2-3 million for now. Not a proven long-term starter yet.
Julius Randle - offer a 4 year/$76 million contract starting at $16-17 million. Potential to be a 24/10 player consistently
Ian Clark - let him go. Negative value
Travon Bluiett - minimum level player
Kenrich Williams - on a great cheap deal. Bring him back and see if he continues to improve
Jahlil Okafor - see Kenrich Williams. Another nice cheap deal
Dairis Bertans - see how he peforms the rest of the season. He a cheap team option. -
03-05-2019, 07:50 PMsmcgullAnd hopefully the injuries are going to stop this year.Quote:
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03-05-2019, 09:25 PMMythrol
Why should we outbid ourselves for Diallo and offer him 2yr/8m? I wouldn't be inclined to go much over the minimum for him. Maybe if another team. Offered him a minimum as well I'd beat it by a few hundred k but I don't think he has much value around the entire league and any team that's give him a spot is probably looking for a flyer on the cheap.
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03-05-2019, 10:09 PMmsusousaphoneYeah. This.Quote:
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03-05-2019, 10:14 PMTinmanAgree . I have no problems keeping Diallo for 1+1 minimum. If he gets a better offer somewhere else, that's great. I like the kid & will root for him everywhere he goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mythrol
ETwaun is an nice, easy contract to maneuver . Cheap & serviceable rental for somebody.
I'd play Frank in Summer League- wouldn't mind keeping him, but he could be a trade piece.
Kendrich is here & a team friendly contract as is Jah
Smith, Stanley, Ian, Miller, Solo & Davis gone.
Man, if Miller could play just a lick of Defense, but he so BAD.
I am really hoping Elfrid is our #1 answer. That would help immensely w/ flexibility in the draft & Free Agency. Not needing a starting PG would be great.
So, reasonable starting point could be
Elfrid
Jrue
Julius
Jah
Kenrich
CheckMate
Frank (?)
I think Bertand might be a flyer.
So, we'd have 3 Guards
Julius, Kwnrich, Jah & Checkmate.
Target - #3- Tatum. Combo guard-Smart. Combo Wing - Brown. &. Bol Bol Bol Bol Bol . -
03-05-2019, 10:20 PMTinmanI actually think -do to the Mutual respect between Jrue & FO, Pels will not allow Jrue to rot, which , IMO means they will field a competitive team next year. At least I hope so.Quote:
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03-06-2019, 01:39 AMAusPelI think a team like the Suns would kill for JrueQuote:
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03-06-2019, 02:03 AMPelicanidaeA team like the Suns would kill to get out of their endless tank cycle.Quote:
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03-06-2019, 06:49 AMLtdee2019But we have to see what the Draft and Trade looks likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Tinman
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03-06-2019, 06:53 AMPelicans78A team like the Suns would also kill his career. Easily the worst franchise in the league,Quote:
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03-06-2019, 06:54 AMSaints#34
Is K Williams a SF? Or a guard? Haven’t been able to watch much up here in the north east, esp since the AD bomb so I haven’t seen him play.
It would be nice to have a capable SF for the first time in years.
I would personally love to see a Payton-Jrue-Randall core with whatever assets we get for AD. Okafor seems to have done well and we have him cheap another year. Is a front court if Okafor and Randall a giant black hole on defense though?
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03-06-2019, 06:56 AMLtdee2019Quote:
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GREAT JOB!!!! WITH THE PROTENTIAL OF A bOSTON TRADE. Tatum, Brown, Horford and 1- 1st Round pick
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03-06-2019, 06:58 AMLtdee2019He is a SF but have the Size to play PF. I still do not understand why we did not keep M. MorrisQuote:
Originally Posted by Saints#34
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03-06-2019, 08:42 AMkinglio21093I needed to single this one out. What makes you think this? He's had a very good career before he came to NOLA.Quote:
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03-06-2019, 09:39 AMpelicanchamp
Gotta make Randle a priority.
The GM will have leverage if Kenny Hustle can remain a starter and improve as a starter. It’s a long shot but if he can continue improving I would say we have less of an interest in Tatum and that we could draft a SF if we wanted to or we could possibly get a better deal for AD. We gotta be in a position with Boston that gives us more leverage. The better Kenrich plays the more leverage we will have. I want us to have leverage that forces Boston to give us Tatum, Smart, and another player Baynes? Plus at least 3 first rounders but really I want all 4 of their first round picks plus Tatum. If we have to throw in Moore and two of our second round picks or something I’d hope we do something like that.
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03-07-2019, 08:59 AMPelicans78No he hasn't. If he had a very good career before coming here, he would have gotten more than a cheap one year deal. He's been inconsistent mostly, especially offensively since he's struggled with his shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by kinglio21093