Three Important Questions: Question 1 - What's wrong with the Atlantic Division?

This is the first important question of three at the All-Star Break.

What's wrong with the Atlantic Division? This is a division full of big market teams and with some of the highest payrolls in the league. We have two previous champions in the Wizards and Celtics. Also a runner up and perennial contender in the 76ers. A heavily hyped team in the Knicks. Plus plenty of superstars with Kobe, Grant Hill, Shaq, CWebb, Dwight Howard, Antwaun Jamison, Marcus Camby, Yao, and Amare. Yet, the first place team is barely above .500 and teams that are out of the playoff spot for now still have a great chance to win the division. What happened to this division? Why no true contender at this time?

Jangles is going to cut you with a broken bottle for not putting Camby in the stars. he was saving my comment on "middling players" for if he beat me in the 'ship :hihi:.

seriously.. camby is the 3 time defending defensive player of the year and your not gonna call him a star.. my team is fine and will come alive during the abundance of home games we have left. i literally hope carmelo contracts aids and you get knocked out the first round

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Jangles is going to cut you with a broken bottle for not putting Camby in the stars. he was saving my comment on "middling players" for if he beat me in the 'ship :hihi:.

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I thought about Camby and Billups, but Jamison is the real superstar on that team. Camby is no different than Okafor :hihi:

I prefer Camby to Jamison personally.

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

seriously.. camby is the 3 time defending defensive player of the year and your not gonna call him a star.. my team is fine and will come alive during the abundance of home games we have left. i literally hope carmelo contracts aids and you get knocked out the first round

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Camby is gonna lose his DPOY to Okafor and I'm still waiting for our matchups this season. I like your team, but my team isn't an Eastern Conference team. I know you still blame me for the Finals loss. I embrace it.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I prefer Camby to Jamison personally.

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I haven't seen his stats this year. Is he finally shooting higher than 42% this season?

**** okafor. no one can dethrone camby and i vastly prefer him over jamison.. im gonna own you in our matchup

OP can't count: He says 3 questions... but there is only 1

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Originally Posted by bojangles837

**** okafor. no one can dethrone camby and i vastly prefer him over jamison.. im gonna own you in our matchup

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That's like me prefering Okafor to Carmelo or Big Al.

Do you really think you're gonna own me? I don't know if you have the horses to keep up. If I can deal with the Grizzlies, I'm sure I'll be peachy against the 76ers.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

OP can't count: He says 3 questions... but there is only 1

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I'm doing the two other questions in separate threads. Didn't want to interfere with me badgering Jangles about Camby and his lack of star qualities.

I prefer Okafor to Big Al

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I prefer Okafor to Big Al

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I think one can't exist without the other. They both need each other. They do different things. Okafor defends and rebounds while Jefferson scores with ease. Never realized how good Jefferson could make my offense. He gets other teams elite PFs in foul trouble. Look what happened to Brand in the last sim. Both games, Brand was rendered useless. They're like the perfect compliment to each other.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

I think one can't exist without the other. They both need each other. They do different things. Okafor defends and rebounds while Jefferson scores with ease. Never realized how good Jefferson could make my offense. He gets other teams elite PFs in foul trouble. Look what happened to Brand in the last sim. Both games, Brand was rendered useless. They're like the perfect compliment to each other.

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Maybe that's what I should have shot for. One great defensive player and one great offensive player instead of two great offensive and defensive players. They're amazingness on both sides of the ball must cancel eachother out rendering them both useless.

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I think one can't exist without the other. They both need each other. They do different things. Okafor defends and rebounds while Jefferson scores with ease. Never realized how good Jefferson could make my offense. He gets other teams elite PFs in foul trouble. Look what happened to Brand in the last sim. Both games, Brand was rendered useless. They're like the perfect compliment to each other.

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I like them both. I just think Jefferson is a liability in general on the defensive end at this point and time. I dont expect to see Brand do that in the playoffs. Jefferson is also liable to get into foul trouble against a good 4 as well. In a couple of years they'll be deadly though.

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I like them both. I just think Jefferson is a liability in general on the defensive end at this point and time. I dont expect to see Brand do that in the playoffs. Jefferson is also liable to get into foul trouble against a good 4 as well. In a couple of years they'll be deadly though.

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I agree that Jefferson is a liability on the defensive end. He gets in foul trouble alot and he's not rebounding that great. Okafor is equally a liability on the offensive end with his poor shooting, poor FT shooting, and turnover prone. He's one of the reasons I have to use a faster pace. That's why both guys really compliment each other. Like mirror images.

Anyway, apologies for getting off track and apologies to Jangles for leaving Camby off the star list. I edited my mistake and included him with the other stars.

So what happened to this division? I know Boston has had injuries and stuff, but it seems like none of these teams have figured out what they wanna do.

I like Camby over Jamison as well. The problem with that team is the lack of quality outside of the top 3 players. I would say that is pretty much the problem with most of the division as well. Also most of the stars on a few of those teams don't mesh well together.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

I like Camby over Jamison as well. The problem with that team is the lack of quality outside of the top 3 players. I would say that is pretty much the problem with most of the division as well. Also most of the stars on a few othose teams don't mesh well together.

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Can't say that about the 76ers. They blend pretty well. Within a point of being a champ. Maybe the rest of the division though.

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Originally Posted by BeeBall Reasons

I like Camby over Jamison as well. The problem with that team is the lack of quality outside of the top 3 players. I would say that is pretty much the problem with most of the division as well. Also most of the stars on a few of those teams don't mesh well together.

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I agree with all of these points. These teams have built superteams with veterans, but not much cap room to fill depth. Also, Shaq and CWebb are equal in with they do. Washington has three guys who demand the ball. The Knicks as well. Where is the perimeter shooting outside the Wizards? Any chance teams like the Nets, Magic, or Heat sneak up to win the division?

I have a hard time picking anyone but the Sixers winning the division. Knicks have no depth. Wizards are streaky. Magic are young. Nets are probably another piece away.

I'm not sure who's gonna win. I think Philly has the best chance, but the gameplan will be the key. Best gameplan wins it.

I don't know if I'm reading into it too much, but I don't' understand how Webber and Shaq didn't mesh better together. I know I only had basically 1 sim with them together but that went horribly. In that one sim one or both fouled out in 4/7 games so even then they didn't play a whole lot together. I understand they both need the ball, both have a lot of turnovers, and struggle from the line. But I figured their top 5 FG%, All defense teams, and Rebounding would far outweigh those negatives. They both usually average a ton of Free Throws presumably getting other teams big men in foul trouble and abusing backups. It just didn't happen. I would like to hear others opinions though.

I'm not going to act like I know why. I thought you were a favorite to win it all.

I have no clue, but I think a good SG or PG would do wonders for your team.

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I'm not going to act like I know why. I thought you were a favorite to win it all.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I have no clue, but I think a good SG or PG would do wonders for your team.

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I could obviously use an upgrade at SG, if only I had someone with at least an A- outside game to stretch defenses and A- defense to bother the opposing teams 2 guard oh wait I do and he's terrible. And Cassell has actually been pretty good this season. My biggest question is I had arguably the best defense in the league last year and now have arguably the worst. Can Baron Davis really be that good defensively?

The Eddie Jones phenomenon is crazy. I can understand him sucking at age 34, but his ratings shouldn't be that high if that's the case. Very misleading.

I havent paid much attention to this since my Payton team busted for no reason, but Im trying to make trades again and think I'm gonna make a big move soon that could put me on top

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Originally Posted by Conroy

I understand they both need the ball, both have a lot of turnovers, and struggle from the line. But I figured their top 5 FG%, All defense teams, and Rebounding would far outweigh those negatives.

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I really dont think Shaq and Webber are the biggest problems. Their negatives just contribute to the overall mess that is your SF and SG positions. You have a bunch of average defenders (B's) and none of them are effective offensive options. You have probably 2 Top 5 players but after that you probably dont have a Top 50 player.