Reggie Miller the latest to say Zion not coming back!

I wonder how Griff. Responds to this?

I’ve BEEN SAYING THIS.. I said this November 21 during the Pelicans vs Suns game, only to be told by David Griffin the President of the Pels at Halftime “No No No, Zion will DEFINITELY be back mid December”, fast forward to December 3rd Mavs vs Pels I double downed and said again pic.twitter.com/9GJmJH92c4

— Reggie Miller (@ReggieMillerTNT) December 11, 2019

Part 2.. Only to be told again, no no he’s coming back.. STOP the charade, trying to keep interest and more importantly the national TV games.. This young man will be the face of the franchise, let him heal and more importantly get in NBA SHAPE..

— Reggie Miller (@ReggieMillerTNT) December 11, 2019

There's already 70 other Zion threads. No need to start a new one for conjecture from some commentator

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There's already 70 other Zion threads. No need to start a new one for conjecture from some commentator

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How else are you going to get management’s attention? Let the threads rip. I’m all for 600 Fire Gentry threads, 7000 trade threads, 400 draft threads.

I disagree with this nonsense, we have to see what players play well with Zion this season.

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How else are you going to get management’s attention? Let the threads rip. I’m all for 600 Fire Gentry threads, 7000 trade threads, 400 draft threads.

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Management does not pay attention to this board, I reckon. We could post Zion threads exclusively for the next 6 months and the odds of Griff ever finding out about it are miniscule.

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Management does not pay attention to this board, I reckon. We could post Zion threads exclusively for the next 6 months and the odds of Griff ever finding out about it are miniscule.

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They could have done a better job communicating. It almost seems like they are hiding something now. Why so secretive? Maybe 6 weeks, Maybe 8 weeks, and now maybe 10 weeks?

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They could have done a better job communicating. It almost seems like they are hiding something now. Why so secretive? Maybe 6 weeks, Maybe 8 weeks, and now maybe 10 weeks?

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I totally agree that they could have communicated it better. They could communicate even better now: for example, they say Zion won't return until he hits their internal standards. It couldn't hurt them to give hints at what those internal standards are. Weight? BF%?

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I totally agree that they could have communicated it better. They could communicate even better now: for example, they say Zion won't return until he hits their internal standards. It couldn't hurt them to give hints at what those internal standards are. Weight? BF%?

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What really bothers me... Griff has been super vocal all off-season with bs pr interview talking about a bunch of nothing.

Yet, when Zion injury got leak. They ain't wanna talk now. They haven't talked since before the injury.

If you're gonna have all that energy and transparency and then close up shop like they pulled off the greatest con job in history. I certainly would be ticked off.

Almost like he wanted it to happen.

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What really bothers me... Griff has been super vocal all off-season with bs pr interview talking about a bunch of nothing.

Yet, when Zion injury got leak. They ain't wanna talk now. They haven't talked since before the injury.

If you're gonna have all that energy and transparency and then close up shop like they pulled off the greatest con job in history. I certainly would be ticked off.

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Yes. This is very clearly the biggest issue with Griff so far. If you look at how he acted in Summer League compared to around Zions surgery its night and day different. Fans aren't stupid Griff. Casuals come and go but burn the diehards who have already felt abused for years with previous management and that's a quick way to losing the entire fan base.

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Almost like he wanted it to happen.

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I’ve been waiting for the Pels to put out a statement saying he is full of ****. Well even that is not happening. I guess you might as well keep Zion benched now. No sense putting him out there under this coach.

To me...this is the perfect time for silence.

You put a statement out after this and we are being ran by the front office version of KD on social media.

Just keep it professional and precise. Reggie is an ambulance chaser who has the persona on court and off of a playground troll who’s bad with women.

Just stay focused on Zions return.

Players, including Reggie Miller, say the only way to get into game shape is to play games. You can't replicate it in the gym or practice.

But when it comes Zion...SiTHim Out all Year to gETINshAPe

Why or how would Reggie Miller have any knowledge of Zion's health or the team's plans? He is simply a blowhard that likes to talk on TV. He is the king of "hot takes" because he thinks it makes him sound smart. Who cares what he says?

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Why or how would Reggie Miller have any knowledge of Zion's health or the team's plans? He is simply a blowhard that likes to talk on TV. He is the king of "hot takes" because he thinks it makes him sound smart. Who cares what he says?

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I think it is more of trying to prove Griff is wrong. Possibly getting fed from Klutch Sports. So far Reggie might be right.

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I think it is more of trying to prove Griff is wrong. Possibly getting fed from Klutch Sports. So far Reggie might be right.

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and he might be wrong. Griff is not going to rush Zion back just because a tool like Miller is trying to prove him wrong.

Joel Meyers speculated(?) 3 more weeks on last night's broadcast.

Reggie Miller is not the latest as he's been basically saying this since the surgery.

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Reggie Miller is not the latest as he's been basically saying this since the surgery.

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So he is not coming back this season? I’m okay with this actually.The season is lost.

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Joel Meyers speculated(?) 3 more weeks on last night's broadcast.

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And the beat goes on

3 more weeks after last night is new years day. Next game after that, Lakers in LA in prime time.

The 30th would be 10 weeks post surgery

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3 more weeks after last night is new years day. Next game after that, Lakers in LA in prime time.

The 30th would be 10 weeks post surgery

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Or the following week vs Knicks at MSG as some have also suggested

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Reggie Miller is not the latest as he's been basically saying this since the surgery.

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And Reggie is also among the morons that saw Zion walk in a hallway and thought he looked fat. This is what he's basing his entire thesis on.

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And Reggie is also among the morons that saw Zion walk in a hallway and thought he looked fat. This is what he's basing his entire thesis on.

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No . I think it was Chris Webber and that Frye guy

Everyone’s talking about it. I wanna know y’all a opinion on this. Is it’s a bad angle or is he getting bigger? (yes he does have a little grease spot lol) pic.twitter.com/uIk9VkUGtG

— Channing Frye (@channingfrye) November 16, 2019

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No . I think it was Chris Webber and that Frye guy

Everyone’s talking about it. I wanna know y’all a opinion on this. Is it’s a bad angle or is he getting bigger? (yes he does have a little grease spot lol) pic.twitter.com/uIk9VkUGtG

— Channing Frye (@channingfrye) November 16, 2019

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No Reggie Miller referred to this pic during a broadcast and said the same stupidity as Channing Frye. Believe it was the Clippers road game. They probably DM'd each other about it.

What’s the deal? I heard Zion really is going to be held out for the season!!!! I hope that’s not accurate.


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What’s the deal? I heard Zion really is going to be held out for the season!!!! I hope that’s not accurate.


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Has anyone you trust said that? Has Woj? Or Stein?

At this point I pull a Blake Griffin with Zion. Yes it sucks and not what I wanted at all. I bought season tickets making it suck even more. I just believe in the long run it would be the best option giving us so much time to work on his body, shot, and just overall game. Let him have the excitement of going after that rookie of the year while leading a winning team. If he does come back then great I’m happy either way. We are so lucky to have Zion and imo we owe it to him to do what’s best as an organization and fan base by giving him his rookie year back. Nothing good comes out of bringing him back this season except our own selfish enjoyment.

You don’t bet better at NBA basketball by just training. He needs to play. Can’t hide him away. And the whole crux of fandom is selfish enjoyment. That goes for Zion as well. He loves the game too. Holding him out when he’s capable of playing is a mistake.

They want to get some extra things worked out? Cool. But what’s the logic in ever letting him play again otherwise? Literally. Like keep Zion off the court forever. Like an asymptote. Perpetually getting closer to him returning but he’s working to be even better for the first time he dunks from the 3pt line.

I mean all this nonsense about his weight and how inevitable it is, when given how the universe works, Zion comes out next season at a svelte 240lbs, and cracks open his femur doing a routine layup.

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You don’t bet better at NBA basketball by just training. He needs to play. Can’t hide him away. And the whole crux of fandom is selfish enjoyment. That goes for Zion as well. He loves the game too. Holding him out when he’s capable of playing is a mistake.

They want to get some extra things worked out? Cool. But what’s the logic in ever letting him play again otherwise? Literally. Like keep Zion off the court forever. Like an asymptote. Perpetually getting closer to him returning but he’s working to be even better for the first time he dunks from the 3pt line.

I mean all this nonsense about his weight and how inevitable it is, when given how the universe works, Zion comes out next season at a svelte 240lbs, and cracks open his femur doing a routine layup.

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The NBA might be the ones that actually are saying shelf him for season. No use putting him out there now when season is lost. Might do more damage than good. Blake Griffin benefited from sitting out his first year. So did Ben Simmons.

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The NBA might be the ones that actually are saying shelf him for season. No use putting him out there now when season is lost. Might do more damage than good. Blake Griffin benefited from sitting out his first year. So did Ben Simmons.

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Blake and Simmons sat out because they were actually injured in a way that takes a year to recover from, though.

There's no way the NBA would have told the Clippers or the Sixers to keep those guys benched because ''the season is lost'' if they had been fit to play by January.

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You don’t bet better at NBA basketball by just training. He needs to play. Can’t hide him away. And the whole crux of fandom is selfish enjoyment. That goes for Zion as well. He loves the game too. Holding him out when he’s capable of playing is a mistake.

They want to get some extra things worked out? Cool. But what’s the logic in ever letting him play again otherwise? Literally. Like keep Zion off the court forever. Like an asymptote. Perpetually getting closer to him returning but he’s working to be even better for the first time he dunks from the 3pt line.

I mean all this nonsense about his weight and how inevitable it is, when given how the universe works, Zion comes out next season at a svelte 240lbs, and cracks open his femur doing a routine layup.

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Absolute 100% agreement.

When he's healthy, and sure if you want him to drop 10lbs too then fire, play him. Whether that's January, February, or just the last 15 games of the year, I don't care. As soon as he is fit and ready to play, let him play. It's what the fans want, it's what Zion personally probably wants, it's what the NBA wants in terms of keeping eyes on the product, and it will benefit his growth.

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Absolute 100% agreement.

When he's healthy, and sure if you want him to drop 10lbs too then fire, play him. Whether that's January, February, or just the last 15 games of the year, I don't care. As soon as he is fit and ready to play, let him play. It's what the fans want, it's what Zion personally probably wants, it's what the NBA wants in terms of keeping eyes on the product, and it will benefit his growth.

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Last 15 games? Even Lebron knew to shut it down by then. This team is not going to playoffs. Why put him at risk????? Let us not make same mistake as Portland.

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Last 15 games? Even Lebron knew to shut it down by then. This team is not going to playoffs. Why put him at risk????? Let us not make same mistake as Portland.

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You're right.

But remember, he could get injured in game one of next season, so let's keep him out then too.

Oh yeah and he could get hurt in game 2, so best not play him then either.

Might turn his ankle in game 3, probably should just sit that one out.

Game 4? Sounds risky, maybe a precautionary DNP-CD for that game.

In fact, let's just pay him his entire $40m rookie contract to sit at home as long as he promises to never leave the house. Don't wanna risk an injury, of course.

And Derrick Favors clearly needs to lose weight. Dude cant stay healthy and putting extra pressure on his back, knee, and hamstrings.

He should sit the rest of the year too.

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You're right.

But remember, he could get injured in game one of next season, so let's keep him out then too.

Oh yeah and he could get hurt in game 2, so best not play him then either.

Might turn his ankle in game 3, probably should just sit that one out.

Game 4? Sounds risky, maybe a precautionary DNP-CD for that game.

In fact, let's just pay him his entire $40m rookie contract to sit at home as long as he promises to never leave the house. Don't wanna risk an injury, of course.

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He also needs to lose weight don’t forget! The NBA is even putting that on there website. I do agree you have to take care of your valuables. Would you trust Alvin Gentry coaching your valuables?

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And Derrick Favors clearly needs to lose weight. Dude cant stay healthy and putting extra pressure on his back, knee, and hamstrings.

He should sit the rest of the year too.

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Trust the process. It’s a rebuilding year anyway! Right? #Tank